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Former good article nomineeGOProud was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Neutrality[edit]

The overall tone of this article reads as a GOProud press release, not a wikipedia article. The writing needs to be cleaned up, and many parts reworded to reflect a more neutral point of view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.78.139.212 (talk) 17:37, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weasel Words[edit]

Many weasel words - "usually considered", "widely perceived", etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.78.139.212 (talk) 17:47, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relevance[edit]

What is the relevance of the 2010 Homocon section ? How are the activities described in that section significant when compared with any other activity of this organisation ? --Maslowsneeds (talk) 02:52, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

McCobin[edit]

  • During the February 19, 2010 CPAC panel “2 Minute Activist: Saving Freedom Across America” Alexander McCobin, Students For Liberty co-founder and executive director, opened his remarks by thanking the American Conservative Union for welcoming GOProud as a co-sponsor of the event.

Why was this material deleted?   Will Beback  talk  01:02, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New Introduction[edit]

As part of the U.S. Education program that Wikipedia is sponsoring, I am revising the page with the end goal of having no mistakes or errors in citation.

"GOProud" is an organization made up of gay, lesbian, and transgendered conservatives along with those who support them. The conservative philosophy shared by its members include belief in small government, individual liberty, capitalism, and a strong national defense.[1] Created by Christopher R. Barron and Jimmy LaSalvia who were both once a member of the Log Cabin Republicans. The goal of this political organization is to "restore conservative majorities in 2012 and bring a conservative to the White House in 2012." - Barron [2] GOProud" has a number of supports from popular conservatives in America. Andrew Breitbart is the purveyor of Breitbart.com, BigGovernment.com, and Breitbart.tv, all successful conservative news outlets. Andrew Breitbart is on the "GOProud" Advisory Council. Ann Coulter is an outspoken conservative, syndicated columnist, comedian, and author. Coulter wrote 8 New York Times best-sellers and is a commentator for FOX News. Coulter is on the Advisory Council for "GOProud". Tammy Bruce is a syndicated radio host and political commentator. Bruce was also a co-star in the recent documentary on Sarah Palin, The Undefeated Released in July, 2011. Bruce is a supporter and "GOProud' and the former Chair on the Advisory Council. [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by MikeySwetz (talk • contribs) 23:30, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Prior to making any changes, please make sure to read, review, and follow the instructions for lead sections found here, along with the Manual of Style. The purpose of the lead section is to summarize the lead points of the article. Honestly, much of what you have suggested above removes vital information, while including content that does not belong in the lead. Feel free to contact me if you have questions. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 06:58, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Revised lead section[edit]

A revised copy of the introduction seeking to be used on the mainspace of the page...

GOProud is an organization made up of gay, lesbian, and transgendered individuals along with their supporters. The conservative political philosphy is shared amoung the members. GOProud has prominent conservative figures on the board of directors and the avisory council. The organization stirred controversy from its conception. Two former Log Cabin Republican leaders, Christopher Barron and Jimmy LaSaliva, joined forces to create GOProud due to unhappiness within their original group. Controversy continued at the 2010 CPAC annual meeting of the conservative political force. GOProud was an unwanted sponser of CPAC by many but they failed in their attempts to stop their presence. GOProud continues to battle unfavorable legislation and fight for the conservative agenda. Social gatherings are held to being together members and supports of GOProud Notably Homocon 2010. Ann Coulter headlined the event and was seen as an odd choice by many outside of the organization.

  • I would recommend focusing on other areas of the article. The current lead is neutral, well-written, and accurately introduces the subject, while summarizing the article content. Perhaps you could review the maintenance tags at the top and revise the article content to ensure compliance. Let me know if you need help or have questions. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 22:52, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the proposed intro is too soft and feel-good and not encyclopedic enough—not enough hard factual stuff. For instance, where's the 527 nonprofit info? Binksternet (talk) 22:58, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is a need to take out Tammy Bruce because she is no longer on the advisory board. Thanks for the comments. New to Wikipedia and doing it for a school project. Thanks again! MikeySwetz (talk) 02:40, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rough Body Copy for Article[edit]

Below is my attempt at re writing the body of the article to help eliminate some of the issues that are presented and to fix the errors noted in the maintenance box.

  • Here's my thoughts.
  1. Mission section is a copyright violation and simply serves to promote. see WP:MISSION
  2. https://www.consuls.org is not a source or citation. See WP:CITE for information about proper citations. It's equivalent to saying "I found the source at the library".
  3. Remove the BOD and Advisory Board. Wikipedia is not an extension of an organization's website. Information of this nature is constantly changing and is unencyclopedic in nature. Wikipedia is the place to present information about notable organizations. Why is GOProud significant, important, and notable? Present a background of the organization and accomplishments. Establish why this organization is worthy of notice, then support the summation with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the organization itself.
  4. Don't remove the talk page comments of other editors and don't forget to sign your comments. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 21:02, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • i dont remember knowingly deleting another users comments. also, if i remove the BOD and Advisory, mission, and fix the sources, which i found through consuls but i have to get the direct source, would this article be enough to fix the maintenance problems? thanks MikeySwetz (talk) 21:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

History[edit]

Jimmy LaSalvia and Christopher Barron are the co-founders of GOProud. LaSalvia was the Director of Programs and Policy for the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay organization identifying with Republican ideals. Barron was the Political Director at Log Cabin Republicans before both men decided to leave with hopes of a creating a better organization that dealt with more conservative values. They wanted to focus on the issues of the conservative agenda not social issues, which Log Cabin Republicans dealt with. Barron and LaSalvia believe that same-sex marriage is a state issue and therefore wanted an organization that focussed on the real conservative agenda. [1] Margaret Hoover, a member of the advisory council, added her opinion into the mix, "GOProud has helped force gays out of the conservative establishment-- what I would call the 'conser-va-gentsia'--to take on these self-anointed leaders of social conservatism." [2]

They believe that everybody should be equal under the law. The top ten issues concerning GOProud include:

  • Tax Reform
  • Healthcare Reform
  • Social Security Reform
  • Respecting proper role of the Judiciary
  • Cutting Spending in Washington
  • Stand against Global Extremists
  • Defend the Constitution
  • Encourage Community Entrepreneurship
  • Revitalizing Communities
  • Second Amendment Gun RIghts [3]

CPAC 2010[edit]

CPAC Is the annual political conference attended by conservative activists and elected officials from across the United States. Controversy struck GOProud in 2010 at the Conservative Political Action Conference. The New organization was planning on attending the convention of conservative minds. The Family Research Council was the first to start an uproar and boycott CPAC over the GOProud invite. [4] Groups that followed the Family Research Council in boycotting included Concerned Women of America, American Principles Project, Center for Military Readiness, Liberty Council, and National Organization for Marriage. [5] These conservative groups worry that adding gays will weaken the movement.

Ryan Sorba, chairman of the Young Americans for Freedom and author of, The "Born Gay" Hoax, attempted to derail support for GOProud at CPAC. During his speech at the convention, he condemned GOProud for entering the conference but was eventually booed by the audience. [6]

Sarah Palin, former Alaska governor and Vice Presidential Candidate, and Sharron Angle, 2010 Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate seat in Nevada, joined the fight in support of GOProud. Palin commended CPAC by saying she is "always in favor of freedom" and that GOProud is included in the "different, diverse groups … involved in political discourse.” Sharron Angle told Huffington Post, “We need to be very careful when we get to talk about our opinions and be inclusive.” [7]http://0-go.galegroup.com.www.consuls.org/ps/retrieve.do?sgHitCountType=None&sort=RELEVANCE&inPS=true&prodId=GRGM&userGroupName=a30sc&tabID=T004&searchId=R1&resultListType=RESULT_LIST&contentSegment=&searchType=AdvancedSearchForm&currentPosition=1&contentSet=GALE%7CA239031516&&docId=GALE%7CA239031516&docType=GALE&role=</ref>

Homocon 2010[edit]

Homocon was a meeting for GOProud members on September 25th, 2010 in New York City. Peter Thiel, co-founder of PayPal and GOProud Donor, hosted the event at his home in the city. Ann Coulter was the headline speaker at this meeting. Her appearance seemed controversial and strange to some seeing as she is an evangelical christian. Coulter declared herself as the "right-wing Judy Garland". Christopher Barron, the co-founder had said, "Among gay conservatives, she is an icon. We could not think of anyone who we would want to party with more." [8] )

Dont Ask, Don't Tell[edit]

Don't ask, don't tell is a political issue and policy enacted in 1993. This policy allowed homosexuals to serve in the military as long as their sexual orientation stayed behind bars. GOProud, was an outspoken supporter of repealing the policy and made Don't ask, don't tell a priority. In order to help destroy this piece of legislation, GOProud went after the politicians who wanted to reinstate or reverse the repeal.[9] Tim Pawlenty, Governor of Minnesota, and former 2012 Candidate for the Republican Nomination for President, spoke out about the policy. Pawlenty wanted a reversal of the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. GOProud made a public statement condemning Pawlenty. [10] Rick Santorum, former Pennsylvania Senator and 2012 candidate for the Republican Nomination for President, is another politician who would reinstate the policy if elected President. GOProud had also condemned these remarks made by the former Senator. [11]

References[edit]

  1. ^ ZELLER, SHAWN. "Out But In: New Strategy For Conservative Status." CQ Weekly 68.27 (2010): 1610-1611. Academic Search Premier. Web. 5 Dec. 2011.
  2. ^ "A New Conservative Agenda." Advocate 1051 (2011): 7-8. Academic Search Premier. Web. 5 Dec. 2011.
  3. ^ http://www.goproud.org.php5-12.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/federal-legislative-priorities/
  4. ^ "New GOP Gay Group Promotes Conservative Philosophy." Contemporary Sexuality 45.4 (2011): 9. Academic Search Premier. Web. 1 Dec. 2011.
  5. ^ Valerie Richardson, THE WASHINGTON TIMES. "CPAC Meeting Raises Gay Issue." Washington Times, The (DC) (2010): 3. Regional Business News. Web. 5 Dec. 2011.
  6. ^ ZELLER, SHAWN. "Out But In: New Strategy For Conservative Status." CQ Weekly 68.27 (2010): 1610-1611. Academic Search Premier. Web. 5 Dec. 2011.
  7. ^ http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/11/gay-rights-groups-willfully-ignore-positive-palin-angle-comments-at-cpac-goproud-hits-back/
  8. ^ Holson, Laura. "Not Done Yet." The New York Times p1(LifeStyle) Oct. 10, 2010. Web. 5 Dec. 2011
  9. ^ http://metroweekly.com/feature/?ak=5987
  10. ^ http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/02/10/GOProud_Slams_Pawlenty_Over_DADT/
  11. ^ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/rick-santorum-dadt-goproud-debate-stephen-hill_n_978033.html

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