Talk:Frontenac Motor Corporation

Monroe!?

The racing cars Chevrolet built in 1920 for the Indianapolis 500 were seven in number and consisted of four Monroes and three Frontenacs. The Chevrolet Brothers were all driving Monroes. The Monroe car company was a manufacturer in Indianapolis owned by William Small Company who was the entrant of the Monroe cars. The 1920 Indianapolis 500 was won by Gaston Chevrolet driving a Monroe. Monroe went out of business later in 1920. There is a long tradition of cars and engines being raced under the name of the owner even if they had been made by a third party and I feel it is correct to say that a Monroe won the 1920 Indianapolis 500. Monroe became a part of Premier Company after 1920.

Quote: "I am glad he won, and I am more glad that an Indianapolis made car,the Monroe, won. We worked hard for it." Said Louis Chevrolet according to the Indianapolis Star.

The Frontenac company did not build any cars other than race cars that I know of. Their most successful product was aftermarket cylinder heads for Ford model T engines. This popularly called the "Fronty" head and was used in both racing and 'hot rod' street cars.The Fronty T head was most closely associated with Arthur Chevrolet. Corumplex (talk) 16:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Ford chassis

"The company was named Frontenac after the 17th century governor of France's North American colonies, in order to hide the fact that the Chevrolet brothers were actually building cars using the Ford chassis."

How does naming your company "Frontenac" hide the fact that you're using a Ford chassis? I'm removing this. It's not sourced anyway. Crabapplecove 22:33, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Error in information?

I believe some of the dates mentioned in this article are incorrect. References are at the end.

The 1922 phone book lists the Frontenac Motor Co with an Indianapolis address and phone number. The 1924 City Directory also shows Frontenac with the same address. The address is also the same address shown for the Chevrolet Brothers Manufacturing Co. The entry for Chevrolet Bros lists Louis as VP and Arthur E Chevrolet as pres. Arthur hold a 1930 patent for an Overhead Valve Engine.

Leary's book has a list of auto manufactured in Indianapolis. He says that the list is taken from the Indiana History Bulletin written in 1967 and featured research by an auto historian. It lists the Frontenac, built by the Chevrolet Brothers and shows 1922 as the only year of manufacture. (I submit that Leary and Huffman's info is also understated).

The 1925 phone book shows Frontenac with the same address & phone number. The same entries exist for Arthur and Louis as were in the 1922 phone book.

The 1927 city directory no longer shows Frontenac. However, Arthur and Louis are still shown at the same addresses. There is now an Arthur E Chevrolet Jr (clerk at Link-Belt Co). Chevrolet Bros Mfg is still shown, but Louis is now treasurer (Louis J Carlsen is VP). There is also a Marie Chevrolet (Arthur's wife? - same home address) as a bookkeepper for Chevy Bros.

Backtracking, the 1919 city directory doesn't show Frontenac. Pg 401:

CHEVROLET ARTHUR, Automobile Repairing and Accessories and Zenith Carburetors, 719 N Illinois, Tels Main 4109, Auto 21-194, h721 1/2 N Illinois, Tel Main 9368

There are entries for neither Louis nor Chevrolet Bros Mfg.

References

Indiana Bell Telephone Company, Telephone Directory for Indianapolis and Suburban Towns, July 1922

Indiana Bell Telephone Company, Telephone Directory for Indianapolis and Suburban Towns, January 1925

Leary, Edward A, Indianapolis The Story of a City, USA, The Bobs-Merrill Company, 1972

Unknown Article Title, Indiana History Bulletin, 1967*

Polk, R. L. & Co., Indianapolis City Directory, Indianapolis, R. L. Polk & Co, Vol LXV, 1919 ed

Polk, R. L. & Co., Indianapolis City Directory, Indianapolis, R. L. Polk & Co, Vol LXX, 1924 ed

Polk, R. L. & Co., Indianapolis City Directory, Indianapolis, R. L. Polk & Co, Vol LXXIII, 1927 ed

United States Patent Office, Patent #1,744,526: Overhead Valve Engine, 21-Jan-1930

* - Leary mentions the bulletin his book and states that it uses research by an auto historian named Wallace S. Huffman

--Conanian (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

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