Talk:Frater
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Redirection[edit]
@MSJapan: "Frater" is latin for brother. Why would you wish to have redirect to an article about dining rooms? Chicbyaccident (talk) 06:22, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- Because the word is not mentioned on the page to which it was redirected, and "frater" is also a historical usage for the refectory of a monastery (and in fact the definition that Google returns). If there are distinct different usages, a redirect to one over the other needs more work done for clarification. Frater should likely become a disambiguation page to cover all meanings as opposed to a redirect addressing only one. MSJapan (talk) 23:34, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- Wiktionary:frater gives: "Etymology, Latin, a brother. Noun: frater (plural fraters) 1. A monk. 2. A frater house. Latin noun: frāter m (genitive frātris); third declension; brother, friend, lover, sibling. (Ecclesiastical Latin) brother, brethren; member of a religious community". What is the source supporting the redirection of your choice? Chicbyaccident (talk) 20:08, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- You cannot use Wikipedia or related projects to support edits to Wikipedia, so whether it exists or not, you cannot use a Wiktionary link to support an edit. Now, going to an actual dictionary: here gives "refectory." End of story. MSJapan (talk) 00:01, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not saying that, but giving an idea about the consensus on Wikimedia about the perception of the total availability of sources on the subject. The dictionary you referred to is fine, but it is just one, and also it is inaccessible for free users. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:28, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- No it's not a pay dictionary - it was a straight Google search. I'll tell you what the problem is, because it explain s a lot of your other behavior, and that is the following: "I am right because I think I am right, and what I want to do is always correct." However, Wikipedia is not your personal space, and you can't simply come in and change whatever you want however you want for a reason that is not apparent to others. There are policies and guidelines here for a reason. For example, you redirected this to a page where the term doesn't even appear. How is that useful? That's like redirecting Cow to Fast food because there are hamburgers involved. Then you redirected to a dab page, which is the one single biggest thing we don't do with a redirect, again for reasons of utility. However, you have no interest, clearly, in learning how to be a collegial editor, or you would read these policies and follow them. MSJapan (talk) 15:19, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- @MSJapan: It is obnoxious really how you keep on claiming to own this article while accusing others for obnoxiously wanting to own it for forwarding an objection of its current state. Your redirect may very well qualify on the disambiguation page. However, as a firm redirect in its current way, I have a hard time seeing anyone imaginable advocating your redirect except you. To a seemingly colloquial term for a synonym for frater house, itself a combination of two words where the word "frater" happens to be included for regionally/culturally specific reasons. Chicbyaccident (talk) 19:01, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
- No it's not a pay dictionary - it was a straight Google search. I'll tell you what the problem is, because it explain s a lot of your other behavior, and that is the following: "I am right because I think I am right, and what I want to do is always correct." However, Wikipedia is not your personal space, and you can't simply come in and change whatever you want however you want for a reason that is not apparent to others. There are policies and guidelines here for a reason. For example, you redirected this to a page where the term doesn't even appear. How is that useful? That's like redirecting Cow to Fast food because there are hamburgers involved. Then you redirected to a dab page, which is the one single biggest thing we don't do with a redirect, again for reasons of utility. However, you have no interest, clearly, in learning how to be a collegial editor, or you would read these policies and follow them. MSJapan (talk) 15:19, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not saying that, but giving an idea about the consensus on Wikimedia about the perception of the total availability of sources on the subject. The dictionary you referred to is fine, but it is just one, and also it is inaccessible for free users. Chicbyaccident (talk) 11:28, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- You cannot use Wikipedia or related projects to support edits to Wikipedia, so whether it exists or not, you cannot use a Wiktionary link to support an edit. Now, going to an actual dictionary: here gives "refectory." End of story. MSJapan (talk) 00:01, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Disambiguation page[edit]
A disambiguation page has been introduced. Chicbyaccident (talk) 20:49, 27 September 2016 (UTC)