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Whitewash ?

Erm, the first section is "Justification" ? Well hell yeah, they'd certainly (coal power plants above all) need some serious justification for them to be kept running for any much longer, considering the thousands and millions of people that are going to be put into misery or going to die as a result.

But first, the justification givien is more of fig leaf quality, and second, doesn't really describe the relation I just pointed out - ie why they're in dire need of justification... So yeah, it reads like whitewash for the fossil fuel energy companies / coal power plants. 5.56.244.141 (talk) 09:58, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Reorganization

The article needs a complete reorganization. As they are now, it is difficult to make sense of the sections. For example, the second section is "coal", an energy source, the next section is "combined heat and power" which is not even necessarily related to fossil fuels, the next "gas turbine plants" which is a type of power station, etc. What is the meaning of this sectioning? I think we need a section about types of plants, with subsections. --Ita140188 (talk) 08:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Now that's a useful comment, we can all work from this. There's a terrific overlap with Thermal power station so perhaps this article should concentrateon the "fossil fuel" handling and environmental impacts, and leave the "oiler makes steam makes the turbine go round makes the magnet spin makes electricity" part to Thermal power station. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:23, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
Or perhaps it should be split into 2 articles "gas-fired power station" and "coal fired power station" as (apart from the stuff already covered in thermal power station gas and coal seem not to have much in common. OK so they both emit CO2 but as coal emits twice as much per kWh the technology, economics and politics are different I understand. I am not an expert so if there are good reasons they should be in this one article I will be interested to hear them.Chidgk1 (talk) 14:49, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
I agree it would be better and clearer to split the article into the two most common types of fossil fuel power plants: gas and coal. It seems strange that Wikipedia does not have an article on the two most common means of producing electricity in the world. As Chidgk1 said, they are sufficiently different in terms of technologies used, economics, and environmental impacts to deserve two separate articles. --Ita140188 (talk) 10:30, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Ita140188 Wtshymanski Does anyone else want to take on splitting this article? I would prefer to concentrate on more specialised articles. I guess the first step would be to create a new "gas-fired power station" article using the gas info from this one and linking to Combined cycle power plant Reciprocating engine and Thermal power station so there would be no need for lots of technical detail in "gas-fired power station". Then once that had been accepted the gas info could be deleted from this one and this could be renamed as "coal fired power station" linking to Thermal power station for technical detail. Or this article could also be kept and made very short like in German de:Konventionelles Kraftwerk Chidgk1 (talk) 10:54, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
Ita140188 Wtshymanski I have made a start by creating Gas-fired power plant but could do with some help with this reorganisation.Chidgk1 (talk) 12:08, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! I will look at it as soon as I have some free time! --Ita140188 (talk) 13:32, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Having checked "What links here" I think my earlier suggestion of renaming this article is perhaps a bad idea as there are so many links? So the German structure seems the best i.e. create a new article "coal fired power plant" and cut this one down like the German one above? I have started drafting a "coal fired power plant" article in my sandbox so anyone who has suggestions please comment on my talk page. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:10, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

See Coal-fired power station Andy Dingley (talk) 13:05, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
I think the best way to proceed is to create new articles for coal and gas fired plants and keep this as a very short article with links. --Ita140188 (talk) 10:18, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

I have now recreated Coal-fired power station so feel free to severely prune this article anyone.Chidgk1 (talk) 12:50, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! --Ita140188 (talk) 15:35, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
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