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Food culture?

Why is there nothing in this article about the importance in human culture and society, being the center of social events, food based holidays like Thanksgiving etc.? Gobberpooper (talk) 03:52, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 April 2012

Food can make you fat if you eat too much of it. But if you dont eat enough of it you die.

Georgiathebugg (talk) 23:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

 Not done per WP:TALK. Non encyclopedic. extra999 (talk) 11:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 May 2012

Please change the Finnish lang link from fi:Ravinto to fi:Ruoka. The former means "Nutrition" but the second is "Food". 130.231.16.66 (talk) 12:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Done elektrikSHOOS (talk) 21:54, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2014

As it is still missing from the following list of international agencies and organizations working to monitor food safety and quality, we feel the European Food Information Council should be added. Please find in capitals our proposed modify:

Food safety and food security are monitored by agencies like the International Association for Food Protection, World Resources Institute, World Food Programme, Food and Agriculture Organization, International Food Information Council AND EUROPEAN FOOD INFORMATION COUNCIL . They address issues such as sustainability, biological diversity, climate change, nutritional economics, population growth, water supply, and access to food.

Reliable Source: http://www.eufic.org/page/en/page/ONEUFIC/

EuficMedia (talk) 15:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Not done: You need to provide evidence that the organization is notable. Also, you have a blatant WP:COI and your username is a violation of our username policy. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:42, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

food

food that is good for health has nutrients in it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.205.124.62 (talk) 14:35, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Fungi

Fungi should also be included in the Food definition article. "The Kingdom Fungi includes some [very] important organisms, both in terms of their ecological and economic roles. By breaking down dead organic material, [fungi] continue the cycle of nutrients through ecosystems. In addition, most vascular plants could not grow without symbiotic fungi that inhabit their roots and supply essential nutrients."

"Living things are organized for study into large, basic groups called kingdoms. Fungi were listed in the Plant Kingdom for many years. Then scientists learned that fungi show a closer relation to animals, but are unique and separate life forms. Now, Fungi are placed in their own Kingdom."

Fungi includes foods like mushrooms, truffles and morels. Yummy!

Source: UC Berkeley [1] [2]

GregKaye 10:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)Bob Simek 4.9.2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobsim222 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/fungi/fungi.html
  2. ^ http://herbarium.usu.edu/fungi/funfacts/kingfact.htm

Initial images

Various foods
Foods from plant sources

It looks to me that the images of food presented may, from the perspective of large sections of the world's population, be a Food, Glorious Food fantasy. The images are great but don't think that the content is representative of what most people are likely to regularly see. I don't think content is balanced and, if there aren't objections, whether a change or an addition of images would be best. GregKaye 10:48, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2015

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59.177.47.242 (talk) 08:13, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

 Not done You have not requested a change to the article. Please use a "change XX to YY" format. Datbubblegumdoe (talk) 13:56, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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Stevia

Under taste perception > Sweet there's a statement about how sweet stevia is that reads (to me, at least) like a commercial. Is stevia's sweetness notable? If it's the sweetest known chemical, for example, it would probably be worth mentioning. Should this be edited to explain why stevia's sweetness is encyclopedic, or should it be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wintermute115 (talk • contribs) 13:55, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2016

Ddsat (talk) 15:39, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:42, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Mineral link

change ((mineral))s to ((Mineral (nutrient)|minerals))

Done EvergreenFir (talk) 20:42, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Add the content of the research institutes.....please......

Of course, GPS them before adding — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.38.105.161 (talk) 00:56, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2017

A missing comma after the word 'birds' and before 'fish' on the last line of the Production heading on the Food page.

"they also provide services such as flood mitigation, groundwater recharge, erosion control and habitats for plants, birds fish and other animals." to be changed to "they also provide services such as flood mitigation, groundwater recharge, erosion control and habitats for plants, birds, fish and other animals." Nothingsb9 (talk) 17:00, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Done clpo13(talk) 17:11, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

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6th Taste?

Currently only the 5 common tastes are listed. Is it worth adding the research that is going into the discovery of the 6th taste for fat? Here is a possible source that contains a lot of information on the taste receptors/why it is evolutionarily important humans have fat taste receptors. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smi9127 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Keast, Russell. "Is fat the sixth taste primary? Evidence and implications". {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)


Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2018

Food is really good and it makes you feel like you are on crack. Nothing03 (talk) 08:08, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Not done: Non-actionable request. Spintendo      08:10, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2018

Animal Facts.” PETA Kids, E-News, www.petakids.com/animal-facts/animals-used-food/. Team, Realbuzz. “7 Interesting Food Facts.” Realbuzz, Realbuzz, 2 Nov. 2017, www.realbuzz.com/articles-interests/nutrition/article/7-interesting-food-facts/.

U.S. Department of Health & Human Services. “Estimates of Foodborne Illness in the United States.” Centers for Disease Control and Pevention, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 15 July 2016, www.cdc.gov/foodborneburden/2011-foodborne-estimates.html. Iliketochewonspoons (talk) 00:11, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:19, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Why South Africa?

If one clicks to see the WikiProjects that this article is connected with, one of them is South Africa. Why is this? Surely food can be produced in a lot of other countries besides South Africa. Vorbee (talk) 18:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Because it's in their primary school subproject. Graham87 07:38, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2018

Hello, There is a broken citation/reference link. I'd request you to either remove or replace with the relatable source. Sanaafreenahmed (talk) 13:02, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Not done. Sanaafreenahmed, exactly which ref is broken? How to deal with broken links is described at the relevant guideline. Graham87 14:40, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

6 or more tastes

The article should at minimum mention that the 5 tastes are disputed. SkrillixWasTooSoon (talk) 18:09, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2018

Please replace the caption Population density of world regions with Population density by country. This doesn't show regions. If it did, western Russia, southeastern China, northeastern USA, and metropolitan France would be much darker than northeastern Siberia, Xinjiang, Alaska, and French Guiana. 208.95.51.38 (talk) 13:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

 Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:11, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

How many Tastes are there?

I think there are 7 tastes: sweet, sour, salty, bitter, savoury, spicy, and don't forget tart. Julian Khachan (talk) 05:31, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Food in countries

Can we all contribute in developing a food section in all wikipedia pages of different countries? It would be extremely exciting and informative to know about the various cuisines and staple foods of all nations. 2004Åñïket10 (talk) 05:04, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

"Comida" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2020

Please move the "Foods from plant sources" image from the introduction down into the "Plants" section, or please move the "Various raw meats" image from the "Animals" section up into the introduction, just below the foods from plant sources. 208.95.49.53 (talk) 14:10, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done WP:MINOR. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:45, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Scope of the article: Food in general or food for humans?

The article starts with

Food is any substance consumed to provide nutritional support for an organism.

Which I understand to mean the article is supposed to treat food for all organisms. But the rest of the article treats "only" food for humans. To me this seams wrong.

I see at least the following options to resolve that:

  1. Restrict the current article to food for humans and make that clear in the introduction. Than have separate articles for animal food, plant food, … Link to those articles from food (disambiguation).
  2. add at least overview information about food of other organisms to the article.

What would be the best way forward? Thanks, --S.K. (talk) 03:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Types of food

This subheading is not necessary and should be removed, because of another subheading called the classification and types of food. Any type of food that is not listed in the classification and types of food should be added to the list. Space chinedu (talk) 12:16, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 October 2020

add to functional food definition

Functional Food Center coined the term for functional food as a natural or processed foods that contain biologically-active compounds; which, in defined, effective, non-toxic amounts, provide a clinically proven and documented health benefit utilizing specific biomarkers, for improving general health, for the prevention, management, or treatment of chronic disease or its symptoms. This has been the go-to definition used by many scientists. <https://ffhdj.com/index.php/ffhd/article/view/531/1093></https://ffhdj.com/index.php/ffhd/article/view/729/1307> AutumnAAllen (talk) 21:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@AutumnAAllen: Hi! We don't include neologisms until they have become established in the scholarship. Please consider aggregating more sources that work with that definition, Sadads (talk) 23:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Possibility of Division

I've noticed that the article for Food is very centered on human beings. However, there is a lot that can be written about food in general. I suggest splitting the article into multiple, one of which being called *Human food, and the others being spun off as needed. There is a lot of information on food, and a lot about human food ─ both can be beneficial to adding to the amount of useful and WP-helpful information on Wikipedia. VideōEtCorrigō (talk) 03:39, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi guys. Though the article was helpful but it isnt complete yet. There was no discussion on food arrangement on food timestable. I think there should be one in case users who needs guideline on forming their personal tomestable is checkind the article for one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdulsalam Toha (talk • contribs) 20:18, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Food

Why does wikipidea always put disgusting food on there for their pictures like put pizza or pop corn not old or rotten food Iukhaya (talk) 21:14, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry if l am being rude but l was aloud to put my point of view okay so nobody must get mad and tell me to fuck off okay Iukhaya (talk) 21:15, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

So Iukhaya (talk) 21:16, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

"People food" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Finger food

Accidental and improper capitalization of "Chips" in this section --2601:600:A37F:F111:886:D86A:1BA7:1E33 (talk) 01:14, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the note; fixed. Graham87 01:46, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2022

Food adds energy to the body 136.35.7.77 (talk) 00:30, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done The article already says that food is "... assimilated by the organism's cells to provide energy" Le Marteau (talk) 00:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2022

I am wondering whether the following chart might be useful for this article, showing the different composition of some basic food: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nutrient_composition.png. Might fit into the definition section (where it says Food is mainly composed of water, lipids, proteins and carbohydrates...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:810a:8c0:6a14:9c2e:d45c:7661:84d6 (talk) 12:21, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2022

I think in the finger food section, the last line, the translations for the flat bread and such are in Chinese, when it stated “East Asian”. China isn’t East Asia.

Change “East Asian” to “Chinese” OR Use more translations. Pigeonspoos (talk) 18:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Pigeonspoos, China is in East Asia, at least according to our own Wikipedia article, so that is likely what the consensus is. --Ferien (talk) 20:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
I've gone and changed it to Greater China to make it more specific. Graham87 04:36, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Food categories

Present categories are superficial and useless, since each one contains many of the same foods by other classifications and people eat almost anything in any one of them.

Instead use the 19 food groups per the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO).

https://www.fao.org/gift-individual-food-consumption/methodology/food-groups-and-sub-groups/en/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8A:4001:670:0:0:0:9003 (talk) 01:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

That classification system is mentioned already. I guess the point of the section is to say that there are various ways to classify foods. Aircorn (talk) 21:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Get rid of "List of food" sections. (Agreeing with a prior comment and adding on)

I personally think that the article should get rid of the whole List of food sections out and turn it into it's own list article, and make the Food article talk more about foods and diets other animals consume, and how food is digested, (with references with the decapitated chicken who consumed food through a person stuffing it into it's throat). The List of food sections take up too much of the article. G-Toasty (talk) 18:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Agreed ZackAshley (talk) 06:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Moved to Talk:Food/List of foods Aircorn (talk) 16:47, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
@Aircorn Why not spin that into a list article directly? Sadads (talk) 14:27, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Because I am not really sure how. I can't really think of a title that really covers it. List of human food is so broad Classifications and types of food (how it was originally headed here) is also broad and not quite correct either. Even if it was created it would still have the same problems it was labeled for arbitrary list of topics, that are not really "representative" or well organized for readers -- should be organized in a more discrete, focused, readable way. And to be honest it is not really an article/list I want to work on to get it working even if it was possible to write it in a way that made sense. I do want to work on this article however and the list was not appropriate here. I also didn't want to lose the information. I will most likely even go through it and see if anything can be put back in in a more focused section here. If anyone thinks it could work they are welcome to turn it into an article. Aircorn (talk) 17:53, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2022

ok so i would like to add some clarifacation ok? ok Jake from state farm my guy (talk) 19:25, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2022

i would like to add diffrent fruits and their helpings Ktan6526 (talk) 12:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 13:07, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Splitting proposal

SPLIT AGREED
I'm not seeing any significant disagreement the article needs to be trimmed/split; I'm not sure I'm able or willing to decode by what criterion the page could be bifurcated or trifurcated. I'd suggest some proposals in a new section at the bottom of the page. BusterD (talk) 18:51, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This article has been tagged for having an excessive human-centric bent since last January (by Hidayatsrf). The long-term presence of the tag indicates that it has at least some buy-in, but there has been no action to reshape the article, and I suspect that if there were, there would be some objections, as there is a lot of good content on human food that we should want to preserve. Therefore, I'd like to see what folks think of splitting this article out into Food (covering all organisms, with a hatnote at the top) and Human food. The transition would likely begin by moving this page to "Human food", and then building the all-organism page at the current title. Would this be an acceptable solution? {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:13, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

  • Personally I think it just needs a major trim. The classificatons and types of food makes no sense as is. Maybe split out List of human food if someone wants to preserve sections on frozen food, finger food, space food etc. Either way this should stay the main article on food in general as it is a primary topic. FWIW I was intending to fix some issues with this article, but time has been short recently. Aircorn (talk) 22:34, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
    • @Sdkb: Given the comments in the below section I created Talk:Food/List of foods and moved the long list there. Does this resolve the split concerns? Aircorn (talk) 16:50, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
      I don't think a full split of human food vs food as a concept makes sense, I suspect there are a dozen other articles that treat the use of other concepts in other fields, Sadads (talk) 14:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Support - This article almost completely concerns human food only, a split would do.The article faeces concerns animal feaces, human faeces are on a separate article. Twa0726 (talk) 05:59, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Support - This article definitely needs a split. Humans (usually) eat food for enjoyment, while animals (usually) eat food for survival, so splitting the articles makes sense imo. Then again, all living organisms need food to survive, including humans, so we could argue that we should just rewrite the article to make it both for survival and for enjoyment. Washing Machine (alt) (talk) 16:04, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Comment - Came across this discussion while looking into the Food article, and it's had me thinking for a few days: this is an encyclopedia for humans. Our relationship to food is so important, especially when considering its role in climate change. What if the Food article kept a human focus with a hatnote that says "This article is about human consumption of food. For information about food as it relates to other organisms, see x article[s]." I can't think of a time I've seen something like this, but I don't see why we can't approach this through the lens of what most readers are looking for when they land on a broad article like "food." Jami430 (talk) 15:57, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
If we did that, I'm not sure we'd have a natural title available for the all-organisms food article. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 05:23, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
I don't see a human-centric perspective as a bad thing, since that is what the majority of people will be coming here for. Only people read Wikipedia, any other organism wouldn't be able to. Articles on Wikipedia are also created and edited entirely by people, unless you count your cat jumping on your keyboard and editing a Wikipedia article as a result. Okay, but all jokes aside, I really don't see the problem with having this (or any article, really) article have a completely or almost completely human-centric perspective. Lyricca (talk) 19:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Either make it clear that this is a human-food oriented article (and write another article about food for non-humans), or expand it to include food for other organisms. Either is acceptable to me, but for the sake of this discussion I'll support the split. The names of the (very limited) sample of such articles I've checked seem to follow the "Blah" and "Human blah" naming scheme. Thus Reproduction and Human reproduction; Skin and Human skin; Skeleton and Human skeleton, etc. Meters (talk) 06:44, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Dividing the baby

I'm not previously involved, but I closed the mostly stale discussion above as split desired by consensus. Because I'm not satisfied with my close which is accurate but not conclusive, I'll comment myself and say that I believe the discussion seemed to desire a split of most of the direct detailing of human food and human food distribution from this article to a new pagespace, title and focus of which likely needs further consensus. I chose NOT to put this in the closure itself in order to put this page's editors more in control of the outcome. BusterD (talk) 19:10, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Split

The split has been confirmed - should I remove the template? סשס Grimmchild. He/him, probably 12:01, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2022

I want to add a section on food as consumed by plants, AKA photosynthesis. 我的兄弟姐妹太多了他們都很煩人 (talk) 07:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. And, of course, we don't know what changes you want to make. Meters (talk) 08:03, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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