Talk:Filfel chuma

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Libyan Jewish cuisine[edit]

Filfel chuma is the Jewish name of the sauce, so we have to assume that this article is about (or at least started as being about) the dish as it is used in Israel. It does not then make sense to remove the information that it came to Israel with the Libyan Jews. The first sentence as it now stands, actually claims that filfel chuma is known as maseer, which is rather contradictory. Either the two will need separate articles (with proper cross referencing as needed), or "the whole story" needs to be told in this article.

So let us try again: Filfel chuma came with the Libyan Jews from Libya to Israel, where it today is part of the Libyan Jewish cuisine. This is sourced to "The Book of New Israeli Food: A Culinary Journey". This book is claimed to be a biased source: "The link is a biased source, check the title of the book", but I see nothing in the title to explain why this should be more biased than any of the other sources. If anyone wants to contest the source, that question can be raised at WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. I will reinstate the text about the "Libyan Jewish cuisine".

I will assume that the claim about maseer being the same sauce is correct. This will, however, need to be sourced. Is it the same, almost the same or just very similar? If this is established by the non-English sources added, we will per WP:NONENG need a translation to English of the relevant parts. I will not remove any of the added text about the Libyan sauce, just add the presumed connection that will have to be sourced. If the direct connection can not be sourced, I will suggest a separate article about the Libyan maseer.

Apart from this, I have just made some minor corrections. Regards! --T*U (talk) 14:55, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The sources have been added and do mention this as a North African (tripoli based) hot sauce dish, but mentioned in non-english language. I do agree that it is part of the Libyan Jewish cuisine, but so does alot of Libyan dishes, it is part of the whole Libyan cuisine, though with different names, but it is a Libyan cuisine non the less. I also suggest to either separate or rename the article to Mseyer/Maseer, and all the other names mentioned in both arabic/hebrew can be added as page redirects to single one page.ChuChu (talk) 15:58, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It would be great if you in the references could quote the passages in your sources that mention the connection and give a translation. That way it will be possible for me and other editors who are unfamiliar with Hebrew and/or Arabic to evaluate the sources. As for separating or renaming, I might support any of those solutions, but again: That will depend on what your sources and other possible sources say. Regards! --T*U (talk) 18:36, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]