Talk:Euros Childs

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Hard line Welsh language activists threw Cawl over Childs after a 2006 performance in protest over his singing in English. - Is this true? I'm sure there would have been more about it in the news if it happened. --Rhyswynne 13:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

It would be a good idea for a Welsh-speaker to provide an IPA transcription of Euros Childs's name. Lfh (talk) 17:23, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The only IPA I understand is the type you can drink, sorry. User:Garik speaks Welsh and understands IPA, it might be worth asking him.--Rhyswynne (talk) 21:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll drink to that. Cheers. Lfh (talk) 09:55, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From my talk page... garik (talk) 18:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Garik, I'm interested in getting an IPA pronunciation of Euros Childs's name put on his page, and I'm told you might be up to it. Lfh (talk) 09:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done (I'm assuming he pronounces his surname like standard English "child's" — it's not a Welsh name). garik (talk) 12:18, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good stuff, thanks. Lfh (talk) 15:02, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Garik, I suggested to Lfh that you might be able to help. I notice you've amended your initial IPA for his name and gave the fact that he's from the south as a reasoning. While I don't understand IPA, I'm guessing here that you've changed it from sounding like 'Euros' to 'Eiros' (using phonetic Welsh), as southerners sometimes pronounce the 'u' differently? If this is the case, I'd suggest reverting it to Euros, as it's the standard pronunciation of the name. I've never heard any Welsh speaking presenter on the telly/radio (be they a Gog or Hwntw) ever call him Eiros.--Rhyswynne (talk) 09:28, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In my experience, southerners just don't distinguish between the sounds spelt u and i; both sound like i. But I don't know all that much about the details of the Pembrokeshire accent, or what they do with diphthongs, and I'm happy for you to change it back; some southern type can weigh in if they're passing. garik (talk) 11:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Diolch.--Rhyswynne (talk) 11:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know any Welsh but I'd always pronounced his name ['eɪɹɒs]. So I guess I was - unknowingly - closer to his regional accent? Lfh (talk) 17:43, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly. Though the more I think about it, the more I think that [ˈəirɔs] is the best option. And now I look at it, I notice the Welsh phonology article has [əi] as the Southern equivalent of [əɨ]. In the imagined South-Wales accent in my head, I hear the first element of the diphthong as higher and fronter than that might suggest, but that's probably a delusion. Either way, this is consistent with the Welsh phonology article, so that's as good a reason as any to go with it. garik (talk) 18:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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