Talk:Ernst Moritz Arndt

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"Schill's heroic death at Stralsund compelled him to return to Germany and, under the disguise of Aßmann, teacher of languages, be reached Berlin in December."

Aßmann? Or rather Assmann. Seems a little off if you ask me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.17.62 (talk) 12:41, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Pov check, outdated and biased material[edit]

The person is known for anti-semitism and agressive German nationalism. It would do good to rewrite the article by somebody knowledgeble. German wiki has more on his anti-semitism. --Molobo 20:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Molobo is an expert on anti-isms, especially its practical appliance, as shown in his contribs to Wikipedia. --Matthead 22:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The article indeed needs attention (it should be completely rewritten, actually). In slight defense of Arndt, one should still see that at his time, nationalism was a modern movement closely related to liberalism and was against the many small German monarchies. His views and statements were later used by much more aggressive nationalists, possibly in ways he did not intend. I know nothing in detail about his antisemitism, but if it is notable, a section on it later in the article would be fine. And to Matthead: Please comment on content, not on the contributor. Thank you. Kusma (討論) 01:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The man has died in 1860. Has new evidence, letters from him etc. surfaced after 1900? Hardly. Has anything happened after 1911 that makes people judge him in a different light? Surely. A biography of 1911 is more likely to do him justice than one which is influenced by 20th century events. --Matthead 05:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Matthead. Someone cannot be judged by the people who choose to qoute him.

Ebullition[edit]

... Germanien und Europa, a fragmentary ebullition, he himself called it....

OK, there is a definition for "ebullition" on Merriam-Webster. as follows:

1. sudden violent outburst or display
2. the act, process, or state of boiling or bubbling up

But it's certainly not a generally used English word. Can someone come up with something more widely known?

PS: Glad to hear that Molobo is opposed to nationalism.

Sca (talk) 19:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The lead[edit]

Is the division of the lead (three parts) planned or accidental?Xx236 (talk) 06:35, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Arndt and Poland - sources[edit]

Germany's Wild East: Constructing Poland as Colonial Space by Kristin Leigh Kopp, p. 17
Sehepunkte,Maria Muallem: Das Polenbild bei Ernst Moritz Arndt und die deutsche Publizistik in der ersten Hälfte des 19. JahrhundertsXx236 (talk) 06:44, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy[edit]

There has been controversy regarding the name of Arndt University [1].
Many schools and protestant organisations in Germany use the name, short EMA.Xx236 (talk) 06:48, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Antisemitism[edit]

http://www.uniohnearndt.de/wofur-steht-arndt/arndts-antisemitismus/ Xx236 (talk) 06:59, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The Socialism of Fools?: Leftist Origins of Modern Anti-Semitism, William I. Brustein,Louisa Roberts, p. 90 Xx236 (talk) 07:04, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

National Socialists[edit]

Die Nationalsozialisten betrachteten Arndt als einen ihrer Vordenker de:Ernst Moritz Arndt.Xx236 (talk) 09:27, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Disgustingly unencyclopaedic Nazi-sympathetic choice of style[edit]

"and devoted himself to the great cause which was nearest his heart. In pamphlets, poems and songs, he communicated his enthusiasm for German independence to his countrymen. Schill's heroic death at Stralsund prompted him to return to Germany"
Imagine this kind of appraisal in such articles as Heinrich Himmler or Holocaust! This reads like North Korean propaganda! Can someone correct this? Or leave it as a clear case of bias on Wikipedia?--Adûnâi (talk) 08:01, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]