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Coordinate error[edit]

The coordinates need the following fixes:The given coordinates point to the wrong building. The true coordinates are N 45.47180 W 73.61290.

Write here

70.81.141.46 (talk) 09:31, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You appear to have corrected the coordinates yourself. Deor (talk) 21:47, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Citation style may be unclear" template[edit]

Looks okay to me. Can we remove the tag? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:00, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just removed it.--MTLskyline (talk) 00:38, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Unclear if the theatre will be actually demolished or actually transformed[edit]

According to MTL blog and the Montreal Gazette and a City of Montreal press release, the site will be transformed into housing. These articles appeared at the same time as the CTV News article cited saying it will be demolished.

Should this ambiguity be stated on the main page?

- Dougbast (talk) 23:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First off, mtlblog has a reputation for not being a reliable source for information, so I tend to ignore them in general. As for the Montreal Gazette, while a far better source, it suffers from poor and confusing writing from its staff. Just as an example of that, on the topic of the Cinema V building they wrote: "new lease on life — along with a facelift" -- "plans to transform the former Cinema V into a mixed-use facility", yet a few lines down contradict that by stating: "partial or complete demolition of the building". Which is it, a facelift and transformation, or demolition?

At any rate, if you read the CTV News report (it's linked and referenced in the article) they clearly mention a professional architectural firm deemed the building a lost cause, and the only option at this point is complete demolition. The only bit in question is whether the facade (front wall only, we're talking several inches) can be saved or not. Either way a brand new building, constructed from scratch from the ground up, will go up behind the facade--much like the Snowdon Theater. And they may not even save the facade, it depends on cost and how feasible it is.

So no ambiguity here, the building has been declared structurally unsound and cannot be saved, period. It will be demolished. The only question is when. The COVID-19 pandemic has a lot of projects on hold, and budgets being re-evaluated. I suspect it may sit abandoned a bit longer until the crisis passes, and then completely demolished, facade and all.

--Apple2gs (talk) 07:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I read those articles. As I said, they say different things.

So I emailed Montreal City Councillor for NDG, Peter McQueen, and he replied to me: "We have a plan with the SHDM to create social housing there with a cultural Center on the ground floors, while hopefully saving the facade and integrating it into the architecture".

How can I integrate this into the article, seeing as how it isn't open source info? Dougbast (talk) 00:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is what has already been established and stated. The building will be demolished. A new building, constructed from the ground up, will be erected in its place. The only unknown is whether they will preserve the front wall facade from the original building (that is not saving the building, just a few bricks and plaster of the outside wall; a "mask" so to speak. The same was done to the Montreal Snowdon Theatre and Eaton's Building.

As for a mention in the article, if you look under the 'Pending Demolition' section, it currently states, "...there is a possibility its neo-Egyptian exterior facade could be preserved and used in a new building." I don't think it merits a new section about building preservation because it's just the facade, not the building itself. Additionally they may not even bother preserving that small remnant of the building at all, if the cost is too high or its too unstable and decayed. At any rate, the possibility of saving the facade is at least covered in the article already. --Apple2gs (talk) 18:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I understand your synopsis and agree with you. Demolition even with saving the façade is still demolition. Thanks for your review. — Dougbast (talk) 19:05, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]