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Re: feasting and starving[edit]

She criticized the native American practices of feasting when there is food and starving when there is not instead of making the surplus last.

I keep seeing this criticism over and over again in different articles but it is never adequately explained in the context of indigenous practices, and as such, this criticism is devoid of meaning. The practice of feasting and starving makes perfect sense if you are moving from one place to another, which is what these tribes did. Further, creating some kind of surplus wouldn't make much sense because you needed to travel light. It can also be said that the description of "starving" by white settlers was partly overblown, but like anything else, might have some truth in specific situations, such as harsh weather or poor hunting and gathering. Viriditas (talk) 20:01, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I should also note that this common narrative that indigenous people didn't keep surpluses might not be true for all of the tribes. When I visited Chaco Canyon, I recall that one of the first things you learn when you visit the park is that the archaeologists disagree as to whether the structures in the canyon were used to store corn. It seems pretty obvious to me that they did, and when you take a step back and look at the area, it becomes clear that they had to store food surplus. This was more than a thousand years ago, so this narrative that the indigenous people weren't advanced enough to store food is absurd. The fact is, tribes that moved around had no need for food surplus given the huge bounty of game and wild plants. This of course changed after colonization, hence the disconnect between their older practices and the new ecological footprint that made their old ways seem out of place. Viriditas (talk) 20:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]