Talk:Dune (novel)
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Sietch (camp) or Seiche (standing waves on an enclosed body of water)[edit]
I happened across the term "Seiche" elsewhere on Wikipedia and despite a different pronunciation guide, it struck me that the sounds are similar enough to be confused. This made me wonder at the origins of the two words, and whether the French term Seiche may have been known to Frank Herbert. Seiche has been in use for quite a long time in Switzerland, referring to distinctive wave patterns on lakes. Then looking at the wiki for Dune I see Seitch given as a term from the Caucasus War meaning "camp". But a prominent feature of a Seitch in Dune was the hidden cache of water, making 'water camp' seem a plausible definition. Is all this this mere coincidence, or is it that, as often happens, words are borrowed from other places and then gradually morphed in sound and spelling? Have we any linguists who can discuss these similar-sounding terms? What about experts on Dune and/or Frank Herbert, and his travels abroad? YodaWhat (talk) 00:19, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
"The world's best-selling science fiction novel"[edit]
The article claims Dune is the world's best selling science fiction novel. But George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four has sold 35 million copies, which is some millions more than Dune. It is a different kind of science fiction, often called dystopian or soft/social sci-fi, but most still consider it science fiction. So unless we're talking about sci-fi subgenres, the article is not entirely correct. Rhynchosaur (talk) 09:52, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- I changed it to "one of" rather than "the" best-selling. Wikipedia generally tries to fact-check claims by over-enthusiastic writers in a Reliable Source, thereby forestalling a Michael_Crichton#GellMannAmnesiaEffect. Thanks for doing this. Martindo (talk) 07:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
Talk:Paul Atreides#RfC on the infobox image has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Suggestion: Citation change[edit]
The "Heroism" section includes a quote from Frank Herbert: "The bottom line of the Dune trilogy is ...". As the quote's source, the article cites a book by Thomas Clareson. But I've just looked at the Clareson book, and Clareson is just citing the original quote from a prior book, "Dream Makers" by Charles Platt, published by Berkley Books in 1980. I looked at Dream Makers and confirmed that the Frank quote is in there, on page 191. (Its Herbert interview was conducted in 1979). So I figure the Clareson citation should be changed to cite the Platt book instead. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure how to use the Wikipedia citation tools correctly. I hope someone can make this change, and I hope this is helpful. Thanks! DrJimothyCatface (talk) 12:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Original research flagged[edit]
I've added citation needed flags to the first two paragraphs of the themes / gender dynamics section that look to be original research of someone explaining aspects of the book and characters without references. I suggest these paragraphs be removed and rewritten with adequate citations related to the topic, which I can do unless original editor of this area wants to do so. Catsandthings (talk) 01:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
"Dune (novel" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]
The redirect Dune (novel has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 8 § Dune (novel until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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