Talk:Duke of Grafton

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Name misspelled[edit]

Quoting from Bernard Falk's The Royal Fitz Roys: Dukes of Grafton through Four Centuries (Hutchinson, 1950), page 7: "The Dukes of Grafton write their family name as two words, Fitz Roy, and this style has been followed throughout the book. It distinguishes them from those other descendants of Charles II, mentioned in the course of the narrative, who were privileged to call themselves 'FitzRoy'."

Frankly, I don't feel like changing all those article headings, but someone needs to, I think. -----Michael K. Smith 14:07, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If they once did, they don't seem to do it any more. Burke's says: THE 11TH DUKE OF GRAFTON in the Co of Northampton, Earl of Euston, Viscount Ipswich and Baron Sudbury of Sudbury (Sir Hugh Denis Charles FitzRoy, KG (1976), DL (Suffolk 1973)) [His Grace The Duke of Grafton KG DL, Euston Hall, Thetford, Norfolk IP24 2QW] (my emphasis), and Cracroft's (which is even more reliable than Burke's) calls them all "FitzRoy". Proteus (Talk) 15:07, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Section removed[edit]

I have removed the section entitled "Grafton", which contained the following text:

Most Dukedoms in Britain are named for significant places such as counties, cities or major towns. Most Britons would, however, find it difficult to locate Grafton on a map of the kingdom. The title is that of the Honour of Grafton in the south east of Northamptonshire; the titular village now being called Grafton Regis.

The first sentence simply isn't true - while some Dukedoms do indeed refer to significant places (Norfolk, Somerset, Manchester, Edinburgh, etc.), many don't. Richmond (Yorkshire), Wellington (Somerset), Brandon (Suffolk) and Marlborough (Wiltshire) are all small towns, Abercorn (West Lothian) is a village, Buccleuch (Selkirkshire) is only a hamlet, and some titles (Beaufort, Hamilton, Lennox, Gordon) don't refer to places at all but to families. The section is trying to make a big point out of something that isn't that unusual. I have therefore replaced it with, as is usual, a short note in the opening stating the source of the title. Proteus (Talk) 20:46, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Line of succession[edit]

www.william1.co.uk/t8.htm
www.william1.co.uk/t9.htm
https://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/grafton.html
https://www.almanachd egotha.org/id155.html

Henry FitzRoy, 1st Duke of Grafton (1663 – 1690)
- Charles FitzRoy, 2nd Duke of Grafton (1683 –1757)
  - Charles FitzRoy, Earl of Euston (1714 – 1715)
  - George FitzRoy, Earl of Euston (1715 – 1747)
  - Lord Augustus FitzRoy (1716 – 1741)
    - Augustus FitzRoy, 3rd Duke of Grafton (1735 – 1811), Prime Minister of Great Britain
      - George FitzRoy, 4th Duke of Grafton (1760 – 1844)
        Henry FitzRoy, 5th Duke of Grafton (1790 – 1863)
        William FitzRoy, 6th Duke of Grafton (1819 – 1882)
        
        Augustus FitzRoy, 7th Duke of Grafton (1821 – 1918)
        Henry James FitzRoy, Earl of Euston (1848 – 1912)
        
        Alfred FitzRoy, 8th Duke of Grafton (1850 – 1930)
        William FitzRoy, Viscount Ipswich (1884 – 1918)
        John FitzRoy, 9th Duke of Grafton (1914 – 1936)
        
        Lord Charles FitzRoy (1857 – 1911)
        Charles FitzRoy, 10th Duke of Grafton (1892 – 1970)
        Hugh FitzRoy, 11th Duke of Grafton (1919 – 2011)
        James FitzRoy, Earl of Euston (1947 – 2009)
        Henry FitzRoy, 12th Duke of Grafton (b. 1976)
        (1) Alfred FitzRoy, Earl of Euston (b. 2012)
        
        (2) Lord Ralph FitzRoy (b. 2017)
        
        (3) Lord Charles FitzRoy (b. 1957)
        (4) Nicolas FitzRoy (b. 1991)
        
        (5) George FitzRoy (b. 1993)
        
        Lord Edward FitzRoy (1928 – 2007)
        (6) Michael FitzRoy (b. 1958)
        (7) Edwin FitzRoy (b. 1992)
      - Lord William FitzRoy (1782 – 1857)
        Francis FitzRoy (1823 – 1900)
        Cyril FitzRoy (1861 – 1939)
        Charles FitzRoy (1909 – 1994)
        (8) Felix FitzRoy (b. 1938)
        (9) James FitzRoy (b. 1986)
    - Charles FitzRoy, 1st Baron Southampton (1737 – 1797)
      - George FitzRoy, 2nd Baron Southampton (1761 – 1810)
        Charles FitzRoy, 3rd Baron Southampton (1804 – 1872)
        Charles FitzRoy, 4th Baron Southampton (1867 – 1958)
        Charles James FitzRoy, 6th Baron Southampton (1928 – 2015)
        Hon. Charles FitzRoy (1954 – 1975)
        
        (10) Edward FitzRoy, 7th Baron Southampton (b. 1955)
        (11) Hon. Charles FitzRoy (b. 1983)
        
        (12) Hon. Charles FitzRoy (b. 1998)
        
        Edward FitzRoy (1869 – 1943), Speaker of the House of Commons
        Robert FitzRoy, 2nd Viscount Daventry (1893 – 1986)
        
        Hon. John FitzRoy Newdegate (1897 – 1976)
        Francis FitzRoy Newdegate, 3rd Viscount Daventry (1921 – 2000)
        (12) James FitzRoy Newdegate, 4th Viscount Daventry (b. 1960)
        (13) Hon. Humphrey FitzRoy Newdegate (b. 1995)
      - Hon. William FitzRoy (1773 – 1837)
        William FitzRoy (1802 – 1882)
        William FitzRoy (1830 – 1902)
        Frederick FitzRoy (1872 – 1937)
        William Stewart-FitzRoy (1907 – 1998)
        (14) Allan Stewart-FitzRoy (b. 1935)
        
        (15) Douglas Stewart-FitzRoy (b. 1943)
        
        (16) Roderick FitzRoy (b. 1947)
        (17) James FitzRoy (b. 1973}
        
        George Dartmouth (22 May 1832-7 Dec 1890); m.11 Jan 1866 Caroline Catherine Macpherson (1839-8 Nov 1928)
        Gordon Duncan Seymour (15 Feb 1868-1936); m.1st 25 Jul 1891 Mrs Marie Turner (d.1894); m.2nd Adalia Leasure
        Albert Loring (1900-1971); m.Carolyne Marie West (d.1956)
        (18) Don Arthur (b.1943); m.1st Linda Dee Hayes; m.2nd Florence Evelyn Mather — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.235.23 (talk) 17:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FitzRoy MPs[edit]

https://web.archive.org/web/20190525021511/http://www.leighrayment.com/mpindex/mpindexdunfra.htm

Caption text
Name	Consitiuncy	Header text
Robert FitzRoy	City of Durham	1841–1843
Lord Augustus FitzRoy	Thetford	1739–1741
Lord William FitzRoy	Thetford	1806–1812
Lord James FitzRoy	Thetford	1830–1834
Lord Frederick FitzRoy	Thetford	1863–1865
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy
Robert FitzRoy

Fitzroy	Charles (Fitzroy-Scudamore from 1749)	Thetford 1733-1754                                        Hereford 1754-1768                                        Heytesbury 1768-1774                                     Thetford 1774-1782

Fitzroy	Charles, later [1780] 1st Baron Southampton	Orford 1759-1761                                            Bury St. Edmunds 1761-1774                             Thetford 1774-1780

Fitzroy	Lord Charles 	Bury St.Edmunds 1787-1796 and 1802-1818

Fitzroy	Lord Charles	Thetford 1818-1830                                        Bury St.Edmunds 1832-1837

Fitzroy	Charles Augustus	Bury St. Edmunds 1831-1832

Fitzroy	Edward Algernon 	Northamptonshire South 1900-1906 and Jan 1910-1918                                                             Daventry 1918-1943

Fitzroy	George Ferdinand, later [1797] 2nd Baron Southampton	Bury St.Edmunds 1784-1787

Fitzroy	Henry 	Great Grimsby 1831-1832                                 Lewes 1837-1841 and 1842-1859

Fitzroy	Lord John Edward 	Thetford 1812-1818                                        Bury St.Edmunds 1820-1826

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.191.235.23 (talk) 16:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]