Talk:Dino Brugioni

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I believe that Arthur C. Lundahl said the 25 mile life quote. I have Dino's home address and mailed him a letter on other matters and know colleagues of his, but he has not responded. I believe that the quote was a common introduction to briefing and training. 143.232.210.38 00:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

It's entirely possible; I passed along something already in Wikipedia, IIRC from the PBS show, when I revised the article. When I had dinner with Dino, he never mentioned it, but I'm not sure it would have come up in the conversation -- he was the guest speaker and contest judge at the Northern Virginia Photographic Society, and we primarily talked in detail about the use of imagery in historical research. There were some satellite-related topics where he'd smile and tell us that we'd reached the end of what he could discuss -- but a few of the techniques by which they get extra precision have started to be disclosed. Howard C. Berkowitz 01:13, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

The reason he would "smile and tell us that we'd reached the end of what he could discuss" about satellite imagery is that the intelligence community always keeps a wrap on the method by which imagery is acquired. So, for example, let's say that an image was taken by an overhead asset of a sensitive subject. In most cases the method of acquisition is in one level of classification... perhaps it is Top Secret plus a few other compartments. Few people in a particular office may in fact know how the image was taken. And then there is the information itself... the image. When the image appears on a printed page, it will be accompanied with a completely different level. It might be unclassified... or Top Secret... or whatever. But Bruglioni had the more unusual level of knowledge in which he knew how, when, why, and who took the images and who would get to see them. His office likely did the classifications. In any case it is a very ignorant person who assumes that everything is from satellites. This was certainly not true in 1963. I like to saw logs! (talk) 03:45, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Dino Brugioni was never an imagery analyst. Ever. He was the manager of the part of NPIC that made graphics for briefings and inelligence products. He never briefed Kennedy - he held the briefing slides while Lundahl did. His great contribution to the Cuban Missile crisis was being a human easel. Other than that he is remarkable only for his shameless self-promotion and deception about his career. When I get the sources squared away, I will correct this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.166.22 (talk) 16:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the 25 mile circle quote is Lundahl's. Brugioni reports him making this analogy in Eye in the Sky, p. 164. Found that while trying to transwiki to Wikiquote. Yworo (talk) 14:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I was, in fact, unable to verify any of the three quotations. Though they've been picked up of course by all the Wikipedia mirrors and people are even quoting them in their PowerPoint presentations. We should never have had unsourced quotes in this article for so long. Especially in a biography of a living person. Yworo (talk) 14:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Examination of the Zapruder Film

I have added this to the section concerning Brugioni's activities after the Cuban Missile Crisis: In a video interview by Doug Horne, Dino Brugioni says that examined the Zapruder film of the John F. Kennedy assassination the evening of 23 November 1963 when he was the weekend duty officer at the CIA's National Photographic Interpretation Center. He said he was not aware of a second examination of the film at NPIC the following evening by a completely different team. Brugioni thought the Zapruder Film in the National Archives today and available to the public has been altered from the version of the film he saw the day after the assassination. gwlucca 75.140.48.109 (talk) 01:10, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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