Talk:Dinner Party (The Office)

Easy on the notes people!

I removed the following notes from the article:

• Ryan did not appear in this episode.
• Jan did not invite Dwight to the party as she dislikes him as shown in previous episodes such as Health Care and The Coup.
• Jan continues to suspect Pam of being interested in Michael, she first expressed this concern in the Season 4 Premiere Fun Run.
• In the middle of an argument with Jan, Michael yells his favorite joke "THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!"
• According to Jan, Michael ran through the sliding-glass door because he heard an ice cream truck; Michael does not deny that he loves ice cream. In Season 1 episode Health Care, Michael's "big surprise" for the staff was his purchase of ice-cream sandwiches for the entire office.
• Pam shows surprise that Jan has both an office and a "workspace." In Season 1 episode Health Care, Dwight was allowed to use the conference room to choose a new health care plan only on the condition he called it a "workspace" instead of an office. Otherwise, if Dwight called the conference room his office, it would be bigger than Michael's adjacent office.
• When playing the celebrities game, Andy states that Helena is the capital of Montana. In Season 3 episode The Job, he demonstrates prior knowledge of obscure state capitals, such as citing Montpelier as the capital of Vermont during his interview with Dwight for the job of new Assistant to the Regional Manager.
• When the police come to the condo, we can briefly see two people standing outside the condo adjacent to Michael's. In a deleted scene in Season 2 episode Office Olympics, Michael met his prospective neighbor, who was a yarn salesman. The man was played by series showrunner Greg Daniels.

Mrtea (talk) 17:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Really?

Taken from the article: "During an awkward game of charades, Jan plays a CD recorded by her former assistant, Hunter, which seems to indicate that he lost his virginity to her." Am I in the minority in thinking that's a little too presumptuous? Maybe it could be implying she had sex with him, but how does one know that she took his virginity? Just because he looked young? Was it in the lyrics, perhaps? If there are clues I simply overlooked then I'd be curious to know, otherwise I would suggest removing that little detail.Larphenflorp (talk) 02:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Didn't the song say "You took my hand, you made me a man". Made me a man generally refers to a man losing his virginity to an older women. Also, they played the song before they started playing charades, not during the game of charades. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.213.192.116 (talk) 02:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree with the thought that Hunter's song is about Jan. I also believe that the actress was revealed to be homeless when it showed her standing on a corner next to a homeless man. I'll wait for a consensus before adding that though. --DeviantCharles (talk) 08:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Uhh, despite what some people might might think one can't just put two and two together and call that fact. It's something to think about, but there's nothing explicitly indicated in the episode and no source that indicated Hunter and Jan have had an intimate relationship. Keep that in mind. Mrtea (talk) 18:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Come on guys, this is a sitcom gag, not evidence for a court case. It's fairly obvious that the joke was supposed to be that Hunter had an intimate relation with Jan and that's what the song is about. This is evidenced by Jim and Pam's startled stares at each other as "it's made me a man" played, Michael's discontent at the song, Jan's later using of the song as an argument tool, etc. 18.96.2.6 (talk) 23:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Dwight's "date"

I'll accept that as evidence, though I don't know if it should be included in the article, but again if I'm in the minority then so be it.

Also, regarding the guest actress Beth Grant: wasn't she revealed to be a homeless person, and not in fact Dwight's former babysitter? It was at the very end, she was seen on the street next to someone who appeared to be homeless, which sort of solidified (for me) the fact that she too was just some homeless woman. This would mean Dwight picked up a supposedly random homeless person so he could join the dinner party. Anyone agree/disagree?Larphenflorp (talk) 02:14, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

She was waiting at a bus stop. The joke was that Dwight pretended not to notice her so he would not have to offer her a ride. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.3.114.57 (talk) 14:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup

This episode needs MAJOR cleanup, referencing, and just a ton of work. If anyone would like to give me a hand, in the next couple of days I'm going to try to convert it to look like Diversity Day. Mastrchf91 (^t/_c) 15:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I added a cleanup tag to the article.. I'm afraid I think that's the best I can do to help while I'm studying for exams. Eep! Good luck. Mrtea (talk) 18:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Putting Notes into Show_Hide Box

Ive put the Notes of this episode into a Show_Hide box to help tidy up this section, if anyone has any objections to this please post here before chaning as this allows more notes to be contributed to the page because some of the notes deleted were good notes on the episode.

--177mswg (talk) 21:29, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

First of all, the box shouldn't be used here. It does tidy it up, but it isn't applicable here. In actuality, the notes section shouldn't be used, and those notes should be converted into prose, which I will be doing. Mastrchf91 (^t/_c) 21:42, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Ive put the notes into a more suitable drop down box which blends in better with the page and looks acceptable, also I made some minor changes to the notes section, links, repition of links deleted etc..

177mswg (talk) 08:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

John McCain

For whoever is working on this article:

If you're interested there is an audio interview with B.J. Novak (Link) in which he tells a story about John McCain telling him what his favorite scene from this episode was (about 25 minutes into the interview). Maybe it could be used in the reception section. --Mr.crabby ''''' (Talk) 17:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll add it in tomorrow if I get the chance. Or, I believe it's Jamie, could also add it in. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 17:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

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   Well done.

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   In the lead, it would be best to add (NBC) after "National Broadcasting Company". In the Production section, it would best to link "November 5, 2007" once, per here.

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   Does Reference 13 cover all this ---> "If not for the writers strike, this episode would have completed filming successfully during the week of November 5, 2007. Also, a Christmas episode would have been produced and aired, but that script was discarded as the strike lasted past the 2007 holiday season, the time of year when the potential episode would have aired"?

   C. It contains no original research:

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   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

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   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

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   Pass or Fail:

   If the above statement can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article! Also, contact me if the above statements are answered.

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

• I've completed the requests, and yes, Ref 13 covers all of that. Since Jamie nominated the article, I'll let him have the honor of contacting you. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 02:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Or to speed up the process, I might as well do it. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 15:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Thank you for clarifying that Reference 13 covered all that info. and thank you for getting the other stuff I mentioned, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

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10th Anniversary

Yesterday was the 10th anniversary of the original broadcast of "Dinner Party", which Rolling Stone called "the greatest Office episode ever".[1] This has resulted in about a six-fold increase in the number of daily page views, from an average of under 500 to over 3,000 per day. See page-view analysis for April 2018 —Bruce1ee^talk 12:44, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Episode number

How has no one noticed this episode is the 9th of the season not the 13th. BGRicher (talk) 23:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

These are the original broadcaster's (NBC's) episode numbers. So episode number 13 is correct. See List of The Office (American TV series) episodes. —Bruce1ee^talk 23:40, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2020

This episode is the 9th episode of the fourth season. Quarterpoundcheese (talk) 22:36, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

These are the original broadcaster's (NBC's) episode numbers. So episode number 13 is correct. See List of The Office (American TV series) episodes. —Bruce1ee^talk 22:39, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2020

Actually episode 9 2604:6000:6602:8300:E4A1:96BC:6E46:4C5D (talk) 23:48, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: See the numerous similar threads above. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:47, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2021

Incorrect information. Instead of season 4 ep 13 should be season 4 ep 9 both in the summary and in the text. 2001:8A0:E80C:7401:416D:7911:C568:BB63 (talk) 10:38, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. Wikipedia uses the original broadcaster's (NBC's) episode numbers. So episode number 13 is correct. See List of The Office (American TV series) episodes. —Bruce1ee^talk 11:32, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2021

I wish to change the FIRST sentence in the article from: '"Dinner Party" is the thirteenth episode of the fourth season of the American comedy television series The Office—the show's sixty-sixth episode overall.'

to: '"Dinner Party" is the ninth episode of the fourth season of the American comedy television series The Office—the show's sixty-second episode overall.'

The current sentence is not correct, and this can be verified on IMDB or by checking any streaming service with The Office (US) available, such as Netflix. Dinner party is in fact the ninth episode rather than thirteenth.

Msa912 (talk) 00:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

References

 Not done. Wikipedia uses the original broadcaster's (NBC's) episode numbers. So episode number 13 is correct. See List of The Office (American TV series) episodes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce1ee (talk • contribs) 00:24, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Episode number is wrong?.

It’s season 4 Episode 9. Not 13 95.145.79.154 (talk) 23:21, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia uses the original broadcaster's (NBC's) episode numbers. So episode number 13 is correct. See List of The Office (American TV series) episodes. —Bruce1ee^talk 05:27, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2022

The article states that it's episode 13 but it's actually episode 9 :-) 2A02:3037:419:3362:3DD1:64DF:B077:B3ED (talk) 23:33, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: See response to a similar request just above. RudolfRed (talk) 23:52, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2023

It is episode 9 not 13. I’m currently watching thanks :) 64.231.131.27 (talk) 02:10, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Please see the other discussions of the episode number on this talk page. Some episodes got merged. Closhund/talk/ 02:43, 15 August 2023 (UTC)