Talk:Curt Schilling

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Jumped on the bandwagon[edit]

Jumped on the bandwagon is a POV characterization and should not be in the article. android79 04:31, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Same with discussions about whether he "takes himself too seriously." It can never be more than a POV opinion. —Cleared as filed 15:10, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

It's the fan's POV as my edit said, which is encyclopedic. If that's POV, then you need to change the part of the article which says, "One of the most dominant pitchers in the game today," because that would also be a POV opinion (plus he's looked horrible this year). Furthermore, "worst to first" belongs to the '91 Braves, and it's POV to call the '93 pennant run "magical." Sensation002 21:07, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Your recent edit removing those POV opinions improves the article. —Cleared as filed 01:05, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
If you're going to say something is POV, could you use policy to support your argument, rather than stating your opinion as fact? The policy states that articles should represent "significant minority views." To say that many people think he takes himself to seriously is representing a significant minority view. In fact, my original edit juxtaposed that idea with the more appealing idea that it brings him closer to the fans. Sensation002 02:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you've got verifiable sources for those points, this is a moot discussion. android79 03:44, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

See Also addition[edit]

I am not entirely sure if this belongs here, but I put a mention of a charitable event that specifically support Curt's Pitch for ALS, of which Curt Schilling and Ronda Schilling have made appearances at, and Schilling has always been on hand at the presentation of the funds to him. Is this appropriate here? -- Ubergenius 17:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Bloody Sock Incident?[edit]

Is Schilling's pitching-while-injured stunt during 2004 ALCS Game 6 missing from this article intentionally? Twenty years from now, if affecianados are asked to recall a specific game Schilling pitched, that one would probably be the most memorable. I assume that's as a much a qualification for 'career highlight' as any. 15:26, 5 October 2005 (UTC)EricN

  • It was previously mentioned in the caption to a photo, but the photo was removed due to concerns about its copyright, along with the caption. Feel free to add something about the bloody-sock game, it definitely belongs. android79 15:37, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have added a few brief lines recounting the incident, as it is inarguably a highlight of his career. It is very well covered in the article on the 2004 ALCS, to which this article links. Xinoph 20:35, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Minor error[edit]

Schilling did not appear in Game 3 of 2004 ALDS as stated in the article; he started and won Game 1 but aggravated his ankle injury in the game.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.204.241.9 (talk • contribs) 06:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He actually lost Game 1...If the Red Sox came back from 3-0 to win series then he could not possibly have won the game.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.61.110.14 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The ALDS is not the World Series not the ALCS. 2004 American League Division Series#Anaheim vs. Boston. -- JHunterJ (talk) 19:06, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Schilling's faith[edit]

I'm a little surprised not to see any mention of Schilling's faith in the article - after the 2004 Series he was open about being a Christian, and I'm sure it plays a significant role in his life off the field. Ataru 00:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

everquest[edit]

Schilling will be villain in EQ --Monk 05:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Schilling/Ramirez altercation[edit]

We really need a reference for this. Especially seeing as there's really only one "Providence newspaper" Counterfit 07:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, it's been a while with no reference added. I removing that line until someone actually finds the ProJo article that mentions this happening. Counterfit 04:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Schilling's superstitions/faiths[edit]

I'm going to add a segment about curt's many superstitions and faiths, as the title goes. If anyone could get a small clip of him jumping over the foul line going into the dugout, I would greatly appreciate it.

Retirement rumor[edit]

I removed this speculation from the main article: 

There are also rumors that Schilling is said to retire at the end
of the 2007 season. He says that he does not wish to play past 40,
to preserve his stats.

If anyone want to find a citation for it, please do. -- JHunterJ 22:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard him say it repeatedly on the radio, though he's given various reasons (time with family, not wanting to go out looking bad). Here's an indirect reference: http://www.all-baseball.com/firebrand/archives/023976.html ActuarialFellow 16:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited Statement[edit]

He took part in a major brawl between the two teams, started by Jason Varitek and Alex Rodriguez, on July 24, 2004.[citation needed]

Shonda Schilling should be mentioned in this article[edit]

Not only as Curt's wife but as his partner in the fight against ALS. She's a major part of that too. She should just be mentioned anyway, regardless.71.232.62.13 02:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dark Horse Teams[edit]

The 2004 Red Sox were not a dark horse team. They were one of the hottest teams in baseball entering the playoffs, and while they weren't a unanimous pick to win the Series, they didn't have the underdog status Schilling's Diamondback and Phillies had.

Record for most birds killed with a baseball[edit]

Why was this left out? It's an amazing feat! 24.61.24.177 22:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Invalid citation[edit]

The citation to backup the claim that Green Monster Games was not named after the wall at Fenway park references a webpage that does not mention this issue at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.235.211 (talk) 14:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that as well and it struck me as very strange. I found a more relevant post to link there and updated the reference. I don't see any proof that the poster is Curt Shilling (granted I didn't look very hard) and I feel dirty using a message board as a reference, but hey, I'm just making sure the link it right.99.236.151.246 (talk) 05:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Needed expansion[edit]

The page has only one sentence about his involvement in speaking out against steroid use. Considering that he has been probably the most vocal opponent of steroid use from within the game, this should probably be given some more coverage here. Chubbles (talk) 21:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just added a sentence about his views on two specific players. I don't think that really fits into the "political advocacy" section, but like you said, we'll need more than there is to give the controversy its own section. If we're going to claim that he is "probably the most vocal opponent of steroid use from within the game", we'll need good secondary sources making that claim. If we want to make a section called "opposition to steroids" or something like that, it needs to be well-verified and back up any controversial statements. There's a risk of making grand claims that don't jive with reality. On the other hand, it's certainly reasonable to make a "reaction to steroids" section that simply records his claims without any information about others peoples' opinions of his reaction. I'm not trying to be discouraging, because if we can write a good section about his opposition to steroids we absolutely should, but we have to be careful about opening a can of worms.

More immediately, where would this section fit in the article? After "conflicts with media"? After "political advocacy"? It would be just as at home in either place. 24.60.166.137 (talk) 20:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I Wonder[edit]

I like the new picture added. The other one showed Schilling a little to old. By the way, does anyone know if Schillings' nickname is Schill.--RyRy5 (talk) 21:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Red Sox Length[edit]

I think the details in the red sox section is way to long considering he has only pitched three years as a red sox and given that the section should be more summarized with less details for example if he had a no hit bid but it was broken up that isn't an achievement or something that should be brought up as if it were that important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Codycod10 (talk • contribs) 03:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


  • Well he pitched more then three years for the Sox, as he was on both the 2004, and 2007 World Series teams.--Subman758 (talk) 04:19, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Related article[edit]

I cleaned up the article Shonda Schilling a little by taking some stuff out for which footnotes were requested long ago. But does it even deserve an article? If there is anything important about her maybe it should be mentioned here and that article cut out? 199.102.168.8 (talk) 03:51, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Vandalism concerns[edit]

Schilling reportedly is considering running for Congress, which undoubtedly will increase the levels of IP vandalism to this page. I just reverted some POV pushing IP. Enigmamsg 16:46, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Strike out to Walk Ratio Quibble.[edit]

As of 7/14/21, under "Scouting Report," reference #41 uses archived data (way back machine) rather than current data <https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/strikeouts_per_base_on_balls_career.shtml>. Considering the number of pitchers still pitching (2021 season) -- who may or may not finish their careers ahead of Schilling -- it's clear that listing him as "currently fifth" in this article is speculation and misleading. As of the 2021 All-Star break, he's actually #11. Ten years from now, he could be as high as #2 behind Tommy Bond.

Although I made no article edits, I suggest a rephrase indicating that he finished his career in the top five of MLB pitchers in this category. Otherwise, consider changing the reference to use current data or maintain the article daily. Gprobins (talk) 13:53, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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