Talk:Council of Ministers of Abiy Ahmed

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Precise refs still needed[edit]

The frequent changes of ministers, and the usual issue of governments around the world where Ministries get merged and split at reshuffles, together with translation issues, make it hard to get a fully accurate picture of the evolution of the Abiy ministries. There are quite a few missing beginning and end dates and quite a few red names. Being a minister of a country of 110 million people is Wikipedia-notable, but sources are needed. Boud (talk) 02:00, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Warning about confusion on the official government website[edit]

The official site archived 31 Jan 2021 says Below is the list of the ministers: Cabinet (October 2018): ... 17. Ministry of Women, Children, and Youth: H.E. Filsan Abdullahi even though the May 2019 archive says 17. Ministry of Women, Children and Youth Mrs.Yalem-Tsegay Asfaw. Most sources put Filsan becoming minister in March 2020.

Obviously we should not exclude info from official government pages, but keep in mind that unless we have an archive on a date reasonably close after the date we are interested in, it's best to have media pages to double-check on these sorts of errors.

This is not necessarily deliberate falsification - it could easily be ordinary incompetence. In any case, it seems that the Wikipedia record will be better than the government's official record if enough people check for sources and carefully insert inline sources. Boud (talk) 01:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The official government website is again (30 Dec 2021) out of date. Three months after Filsan Abdi (Filsan Abdullahi) resigned, she is still listed as the Minister of Women, Children and Youth. There don't seem to be any easy to find official government news items (Borkena/FANA/Ethiopian Herald) on the appointment of a new minister, or a closing down of the ministry. Boud (talk) 03:19, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Still plenty of updates and backdates needed[edit]

@AsteriodX: Nice work in new cross-links. It seems clear that "Ato" is an honorific prefix something like "Mr". Per MOS:PREFIX, we normally don't include individuals' honorifics (the exception such as for very short Burmese names doesn't apply here), so I've removed the "Ato"s.

It would be great to keep this page more up-to-date. Whatever anyone thinks about ministers in the government, it's a fact that they hold those jobs, and better that Ethiopians and others can find out who they are, when they were in power, and what their ministerial role was. Based on reliable sources or at least the best available sources that are likely to be reliable for this type of fact in this particular context. Boud (talk) 17:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Boud Thank you Boud, that great collaboration! I'll work for cleaning and maintaining Ethiopia-related article that seems to need update as well as creating important articles to support the existing ones. AsteriodX (talk) 09:27, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]