Talk:Conversion of Jews to Catholicism during the Holocaust

Questions regarding Romania

Romania's Christians are mostly Eastern Orthodox, so it's unclear if the Catholic Church really acted in a different way than what the Eastern Churches were already doing. The only considerable difference in such a scenario is that the Holy See has apostolic nuncios who act as international diplomats, and the Eastern Orthodox don't really have the same kind of diplomatic structure that would allow them to negotiate practical political solutions, like what the Vatican can occasionally do. ADM (talk) 14:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see how this is relevant to the article, absent a sourced comparison. Savidan 14:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, first of all, how could Jews living in Romania convert to Catholicism if they live in a majority-Orthodox area ? I find it rather difficult to understand that they could really think of converting if there are no Catholics at all in their local village or province. It doesn't make so much sense when you think of it that way. The article should therefore consider examining the attitude of Eastern Orthodox clergy towards the likelihood of Jewish conversions in their respective diocesan territories. ADM (talk) 14:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Romanian Catholics are 4.7% of the population and Greek-Roman Catholics make up .9% according to wikipedia... so you have 6% of the current population.

The Morley source only discusses conversions to Catholicism. These occurred in Romania. This is based on the ADSS and other primary sources. I have no information about conversions to Eastern Orthodoxy, nor does it appear that you have any sourced information. Could you please suggest some sources for the topics you bring up? Savidan 14:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Morley is the source of almost all of this article. I think Morley offers only one perspective; more is definitely needed.

I would welcome any sourced additions. Savidan 21:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Dominican Republic

One case where conversions probably did occur is when visas were given to Jews who wanted to emigrate to the Dominican Republic, a country whose ruler was general Rafael Trujillo. It definitely deserves to be added to the article. ADM (talk) 15:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I would be happy to research this if you would point me in the right direction as per sources. Savidan 17:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Specific entries

The part about the Brazilian Visa Project could perhaps deserve its own entry, since it is fairly long. It is a significant issue in the overall phenomenon of conversions during the Holocaust. Also, some of the historical details surrounding the Romanian cases could alternatively be put in an entry about nuncio Andrea Cassulo. ADM (talk) 15:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Cassulo I plan on writing an article about. I was planning on finding a second source that discussed the Brazil issue in comparable depth before spinning it off. Morley does devote a chapter to it, but I believe I have grabbed all of the relevant facts and details from that chapter. Savidan 17:03, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

These articles should be expanded to cover the aspects of those topics not relevant to this topic, rather than stubbing the content here. In the case of Holocaust theology and Cassulo, the overlap between the topics is far, far from complete, and thus you may incorporate the content in this article into the development of those articles, but it should also probably be rewritten to reflect the new primary focus of the article. In the case of Brazilian Visa Project there is slightly more overlap, but this section is still written with a focus on what is relevant to this topic. The daughter article should (and can) be much expanded, rather than emptying this article. Savidan 15:33, 14 August 2009 (UTC).

Auschwitz cross

The caption to the picture of the Auschwitz cross says that it was taken "before its removal". I took this photograph in June last year. Has it really been removed since then? I can find no reference in support of this.–Signalhead ^< T > 19:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

My mistake. I misread the article. Savidan 19:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.–Signalhead ^< T > 19:14, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the photo and the correction! Savidan 19:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Eugenio Zolli

I do not see why Eugenio Zolli (or Israel Zoller) should be mentioned in relation with Holocaust-driven conversion of Jews to Catholicism. He did convert in 1945, in Rome; the war was still ongoing but he was in a safe place. In addition, there is no need to mention that he became a controversial figure for the Jewish community: it goes without saying! Do not expect a Chief Rabbi to convert without becoming 'controversial'. Or, at least, other points of view should be mentioned as well. Otherwise, one could think that there is a will to 'undermine' what Zolli did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.239.212.196 (talk) 13:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

What about conversion to christianity & Jewish viewpoints?

Seems Catholicism is fairly narrow compared to the wider Christian conversions in Germany; maybe needs a new page since the other "conversion to Christianity" pages on Wikipedia are fairly short, and I think the focus should be holocaust-centric as well.

https://www.biu.ac.il/JH/Parasha/eng/kedoshim/michman.htm

https://www.biu.ac.il/JH/Parasha/eng/kedoshim/michman.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hippypink (talk • contribs) 07:50, 20 January 2020 (UTC)