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No idea what part of North America the original author is from, but it's served PLAIN in all of Toronto. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.66.224 (talk) 21:36, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marco Polo story[edit]

The story of Marco Polo inventing pizza from congbing or laobing is popular in China, but every friend who has told it to me hastens to add it is a joke. The article from Xinhua, 12 September 2007, cited in the references is clearly humorous: it includes Marco Polo inventing cheese fondue when he shows up at a Swiss farm lost on his way to Italy and wants to eat Chinese hotpot. If no one objects then soon I will edit the article to make clear the legend is a joke. Colin McLarty (talk) 02:59, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I find this story fun and amusing, but it is not included on the page History of pizza, probably because no one believes it. It is plainly an evolution from the older story of Marco Polo importing pasta from China, which the page Pasta notes did not arise among Chinese people but was created by the Macaroni Journal, published by an association of food industries in the United States. This page goes to unnecessary lengths to refute the origin of pizza story, apparently in the belief that the Chinese are trying to claim undue credit. Probably none of this belongs on this page, but all might go onto a page on myths of Chinese origins of western foods. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colin McLarty (talk • contribs) 02:18, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly think we should just remove that section. Stuff from joke articles, published or not, really doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Remorseless Angel 讲 17:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well it was originally put in as a report of a "legend" told in China. And indeed it is told in China, I have heard it several times from unrelated people. The editor who first put it in the article thought people in China believe the "legend." I added a correction to that error. Colin McLarty (talk) 23:43, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Move to "Scallion Pancake"?[edit]

This might sound like me betraying my Chinese ancestry, but I think the term "Scallion Pancake" is used frequently enough in the West, whereas I have yet to see a single restaurant use the original Chinese name for it. Renaming the article "Scallion Pancake" (of course, adding redirects from Cong You Bin, Congyou bing, Tsongyou Bing, etc.) would make it a lot easier for English speakers to find it.

I respect using original names for dishes, but there is lots of precedence for using English names for a number of other Chinese dishes (Century Egg, Fried Rice, Beggar's Chicken, etc.) that has gained adequate prominence, and this is the English Wikipedia. Remorseless Angel 讲 14:52, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I just went ahead and WP:BOLD-ed the article move. If anyone is against the move, though, I'm all ears. Remorseless Angel 讲 14:40, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, thank goodness. I'm Chinese American myself, and I think "congyoubing" just sounded terrible as the article name, even if it is what it's called in Chinese. —Masterblooregard (talk) 06:03, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Masterblooregard and Remorseless Angel: Korean pajeon is also a scallion pancake. Perhaps the scallion pancake page should be a disambiguation page and this article should be Congyoubing. --Diospireiro (talk) 21:18, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Diospireiro:: As far as I can tell, even if it's a pancake that contains scallions, pajeon is not called "Scallion Pancake" - it's usually just called pajeon in the West. I'm open to being proven wrong, though. ↢ Remor A ngel ↣ 21:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Remorseless Angel: First, thank for the prompt reply. I saw that you haven't been editing recently, and I wasn't expecting the quick reply! Pajeon seems to be called "spring onion pancake", "green onion pancake", and "scallion pancake" in the west. I'm a bit confused but the words "spring onion" and "green onion" redirects to "scallion" in English Wikipedia. The word "spring onion pancake" seems to be used in British sourses (sp1 sp2), and the other two in American sources. (gr1 gr2 sc1 sc2) --Diospireiro (talk) 00:51, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. This should be under *cong you bing*. Why? Because any English adaptation is unauthoritative, and because leek/scallion/spring onion is a big mire of different international preference in the English language. prat (talk) 03:11, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Moved back, added scallion pancake as an alternate name, and mentioned it is used in North America in the leading sentence. prat (talk) 03:16, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is 小葱 are not scallions but chives. It's allium schoenoprasum, not allium fistulosum. --2001:16B8:31EC:1600:8DA5:3215:B195:ED8D (talk) 16:59, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Not scallions![edit]

The pancake is usually made with chives for their aroma. Scallions are not used. --2001:16B8:2EE6:FF00:6922:89D1:C526:1885 (talk) 02:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Altering the Title[edit]

The title does not comply by the romanization format for Chinese in article titles: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese)#Order of names. I thereby suggest to rename the article to either Chive Oil Pancakes, CongYou Bing, or Congyou Bing. Sigma (Zhifei) Liu (talk) 00:08, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]