Talk:Charlie Parker discography

List of Bird's compositions

The list of Parker's compositions on this page runs to about 60. The newly published "Charlie Parker, Composer" by Prof. Henry Martin of Rutgers lists 84, with details on each. I aim to improve the list but suggest that that go on a separate page and that the redirection to the discography page be removed. The composition page would have items written by Parker, but not recorded by him and so would not be suitable for his discography. Does anyone have strong views? Watty62 (talk) 10:27, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

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There is no good reason to list such a limited discography. Wikipedia is supposed to be informative. Whoever is interested, please expand on this discography. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willy Skillets (talk • contribs) 19:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

• Agreed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.133.160 (talk) 11:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Go for it - anyone can editEditor437 19:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
    • There is a complete discography here http://www.jazzdisco.org/charlie-parker/
      • The "discography" linked above at jazzdisco.org is in actuality a sessionography, as is everything on that site. There is apparently no comprehensive discography of not only Parker but many jazz and pop musicians to be found, from many time periods but especially the 1930s through the mid-1950s, at least on on the Internet. Partially it is due to the transitory reality of the small labels that Parker and other jazz figures recorded for during that time, and due to their transitory bookkeeping practices. Another factor is that from 1948 to about 1955 there was a format war going on: the standard 78 RPM ten-inch records competing with the new 33.33 RPM records in ten-inch and twelve-inch sizes introduced in 1948 by Columbia Records, and with the new 45 RPM seven-inch records introduced in 1949 by RCA Victor Records. "Albums" were released during that time in all formats (45 RPM not as much but it was tried), but by 1956 ten-inch records would be pretty much gone, the market left to 33.33 twelve-inch and 45 seven-inch. Jazz labels with more limited resources and distribution didn't start switching to twelve-inch records until the mid-1950s, often reissuing old 78 and upgrading ten-inch to new twelve-inch albums. Plus, those small jazz labels weren't run by guys worried about posterity, their first priority was to get product in the stores and they often slapped together records from a group of unconnected sessions. So even accurate sessionography info isn't always helpful in figuring out the discography for jazz artists. Compiling accurate and comprehensive discographies from this mess is probably beyond the scope of most editing on Wikipedia, and professional scholarship apparently still hasn't gotten around to it either. PJtP (talk) 00:07, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

ideas for Parker discography page

There is good useful info on Parker's earliest LP releases here, at the BirkaJazz site .... they are a record store, thus probably not suitable for citations, but do have huge informative pages on early jazz lp discographies, including one just for Parker, including photos, catalaog #s, what was a reissue of what, etc .... a good place to get started, which could then lead to more officially citable info from Discogs, and the like

my feeling on this Wikipedia page: don't try to force latter day compilations into some sort of chronology by recording date, that's much too random, theres just too many obscure comps (especially given the Euro Public Domain releases), and they won't all neatly match a specific year ... and their current presence obscures the actual history of how Parker's recordings were released at the time

I might suggest modelling this page on something like the Billie Holiday discography page ... separated into tables for studio albums, live albums, compilations, box sets, and singles, each chronological by release date .... studio albums would just be the albums of all-new material, mostly for Verve, beginning with the 10inch LPs if appropriate ... live albums sequenced by release date, with a separate field for recording date (and venue)... compilations should also be chronological by release date, so stick to the most important ones, again beginning with the Dial and Savoy 10" releases from 1949 ... box sets again by release date ... singles should be manageable, his recording career didn't begin that long before the LP era, but all the important Savoy & Dial releases actually were issued as singles and should each be listed in order of release (as best we can figure, given there are two labels), with fields for cat#, writer credits, and with a- and b-sides noted ... the singles table would by definition begin (for Parker) several years before the studio albums table, and the earliest comps I believe were also released by Savoy & Dial prior to his first allnew studio albums for Verve

toughest thing to squeeze into this format will be all the archival stuff, including many albums mixing old mastertakes with newly released alternates .... whether they go into the studio albums or compilations table, a note should be included stating "archival", or "alternate takes", as appropriate

J Edward Malone (talk) 16:28, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Come On, Man

ONE DISCOGRAPHY, not separated by label as it is done here. That's idiotic. 146.168.57.244 (talk) 21:06, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

yeah man Amalthea Little (talk) 01:57, 5 March 2023 (UTC)