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Split the article?[edit]

Just wondering whether there need to be separate articles about the pre-1950 Cardiff East and the 2024 Cardiff East. Other than the coincidence of having the same name, they cover almost entirely different areas (with the exception of Roath) and are divided by 74 years. Sionk (talk) 19:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sionk, I have only found three articles on historic constituencies that are separated from their later same-named counterpart. 1, 2, 3 (inspiration for the title). With one already proposed to merge. So there is possibly some consensus against them? No idea. Nothing stopping the split though. DankJae 20:10, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice bit of investigation (I was struggling to find any precedents). The Croydon South merger suggestion is an odd one, because it's being suggested it is merged to a constituency of a different name. I'll watch that one with interest! But there doesn't seem to be a similar case to Cardiff East, divided by so many years and of such a different location. Sionk (talk) 21:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sionk, still just raised that they're rare, so potentially if there is a hidden consensus someone may re-merge it, as most of these are just lists of results. But the change in area it covers probably is more important than a shared/change in name, so can see the case for Cardiff East to be split in this rare instance.
Plus Cardiff East (historic UK Parliament constituency) or Cardiff East (UK Parliament constituency, 1918–1950)? DankJae 23:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sionk, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Parliament constituencies#Separate articles for constituencies named "X and Y" some discussion on a similar topic, so appears there is some consensus. DankJae 00:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Long standing editor of the articles here. I'll be honest, I'm still a bit stuck in the attitude from when many of us created these articles over a decade ago, back in the wild west days, where nothing was technically within the rules because they're were fewer rules. Creating separate articles for constituency names with very different boundaries felt like a no-no (there's a Newcastle Upon Tyne example too I believe). However I'm not so idealist these days. As the years roll by, there must be increasing pressure to fix what was done at the start of the project. If the consensus is to split, then that has to be explored. My watchword has always been consistency and that's all I ask from editors today. doktorb wordsdeeds 03:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]