Talk:Canoe and kayak diving

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Safety cover[edit]

Although the paragraph concerning safety cover is written from a UK diving POV, it is still a consideration when using any small boat for diving. Removing this paragraph on the grounds of being UK-specific does nothing to improve the article. If the problem is lack of citation, then the whole article suffers from that and I've added a request for cites. --RexxS (talk) 00:14, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citations about history and location of kayak diving around the world (almost none in the UK) inserted, and your safety section moved into an unreferenced unencyclopediac section. There are enough links at the bottom regarding the techniques to be looking at where you'll find little indication for the scaremongering paragraph of your choice. This is an encyclopedia -- it's supposed to describe how things are done, not how you personally would like them to be done. regards Goatchurch 10:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Not my safety section. It was there long before I arrived here (I saw it merely because it's scuba-related and hence on my watchlist). Nevertheless, I believe the concerns about leaving a "dead boat" are real and verifiable. I've added a reference to one such incident. I'll look through my small-boat safety literature later to find some advice about leaving safety cover on the surface. We work to improve articles, not impose our POV on them. So find some reliable sources that show what's there to be "scaremongering" and we can re-write the paragraph to present each view in a neutral manner. As it seems you're interested in this subject, perhaps you could help improve the article by reading WP:NOTGUIDE and try to re-write Kayak diving#Technique so that it looks more like an encyclopedia article and less like an instruction manual. It would help also if you could find some reliable sources that describe techniques of course. Hope that helps --RexxS (talk) 17:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Original research[edit]

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The section Safety issues has been tagged with concerns about OR, but there is no indication of the material which is not "attributable to a reliable, published source" or which "contain .. new analysis or synthesis of published material". That section simply relates the views of independent sources on the safety issues of leaving an unattended boat while diving. A kayak is a boat, like any other, and the safety concerns apply equally. I'll remove the boldly placed OR tag and await further discussion here. --RexxS (talk) 16:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merged[edit]

As discussed on the old Talk:Canoe diving page. • • • Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 16:22, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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