Talk:Calum Best

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Untitled[edit]

As per WP:TALK "Talk pages are not for general conversation. Keep discussions on the topic of how to improve the associated article. Irrelevant discussions are subject to removal."--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:04, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality[edit]

Calum Best was born in America and, judging by his accent, raised in America. How does that make him "British"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.3.219 (talk) 06:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably, nationality is what the person themselves chooses it to be, within reason. Which would lead me to suggest that Calum Best sees himself as British, and, I expect, has a British passport. A quick look at the nationality article shows: "nationality is established at birth by a child's place of birth (jus soli) and/or bloodline (jus sanguinis)". Taking the bloodline reasoning, both his parents are British, so he is as well. Taking the other side, he was born in the US, which could potentially give him American status too.
You can't argue that he's not British, but you perhaps could argue that he's both British and American. Which is where I would say it becomes his choice. But I don't know if that would be a "legal" definition. --86.130.31.100 22:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC).[reply]

i do remember him saying that he was trying to appy for a UK Passport —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.41.240.15 (talk) 17:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Being born in the US doesn't "potentially" give you American status, it makes you American. As per the 14th amendment. He is free to call himself British if he likes, but Wiki is not obligated to describe a person by their own preferred definition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.3.65 (talk) 01:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think Kiwi is obligated to do whatever a living person does in living their life. Otherwise we could say that Michael Jackson is black when he clearly is white. If he is not American you lot can't claim him. That is a form of hostage taking by one country civilian to another one. --86.40.210.207 (talk) 22:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above paragraph is not very relevant, decent or balanced and I think it should be removed as it is provocative and inflammatory 79.78.81.228 (talk) 13:41, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality[edit]

Calum's father was Northern Irish, his mother was English, he was born in America. How is his English background any less important than the others? Sky83 (talk) 18:50, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree.86.144.113.31 (talk) 03:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The entry now says "British-American" which is pretty accurate. He was born from British parents who just happened to be living in USA as the father was playing football there as many UK footballers go there to play after they have past their peak in the UK. The parents split up a year later and the mother stayed on in the USA with Calum. To me Calum is a Brit born in America and hence British-American is pretty fair. If the USA are offended by this they are probably welcome to have him! 79.78.81.228 (talk) 13:47, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Surely if you can refer to a black man as African-American where you might have to look back several generations to find an antecedent that set foot in Africa, and will quite likely have the blood of a white slave master somewhere in his family tree, it is not too much of a stretch to refer to someone that was born in the US of British parents as "British-American"?46.7.85.68 (talk) 10:31, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Arrest, accusation of sex assault[edit]

I want to add a section about his arrest, RE when he was accused of sexual assault, and subsequently the case was dropped. However, many of the sources are tabloids and I understand we are not meant to use those as sources. Would Liverpool Echo be considered a tabloid? https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/calum-best-arrested-over-hotel-10285444 And Belfast Live? https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/calum-best-looking-forward-moving-10368028 I would expect Manchester Evening News would be an OK source to use but it only reports the arrest not the fact the case was dropped https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/calum-best-arrested-manchester-hotel-10284918. Bethgranter (talk) 12:40, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]