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Could you please explain...[edit]

Someone change the article's references, in a way that I think obfuscates them. The first four references, as originally written, are repeated below. They were referenced right next to the passages they supported. Someone changed the references to an academic style, one that is frankly complete obsolete in an electronic document where references can be hyperlinked. Old fashioned paper documents would use an initial reference to a book, or journal, that was fully populated. Subsequent references would just list the author and page number.

But, it seems to me, to try to emulate that obsolete style here, is not supported by any wikidocument.

If no one can offer a meaningful explanation as to why we should use this exceptional style here I may restore the original one level referencing.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 03:10, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

<ref name=CncCgsStanleyy> {{cite web | url = http://cdnnautical.myshopify.com/products/cgs-stanley | title = CGS Stanley | publisher = Canadian Nautical Collection | author = | date = | page = | location = | isbn = | accessdate = 2013-12-30 | archivedate = 2013-12-31 | archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20131231023035/http://cdnnautical.myshopify.com/products/cgs-stanley | deadurl = No | quote = The CGS Stanley was Canada’s first truly effective icebreaker, launched from Fairfield Shipbuilding and Engineering at Govan and entering winter service between Charlottetown and Pictou in 1888. }} </ref>

<ref name=UsqueAdMare1969> {{cite book | url = http://books.google.ca/books?id=7EgSAAAAYAAJ&q=%22CGS+Stanley%22+OR+%22Canadian+Government+Ship+Stanley%22&dq=%22CGS+Stanley%22+OR+%22Canadian+Government+Ship+Stanley%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Ri3CUvXgDeSqyAHo84HoCw&ved=0CDEQ6AEwATgK | title = Usque Ad Mare : Historique de la Garde Côtière Canadienne Et Des Services de la Marine | publisher = Canadian Department of Transport | author = Thomas E. Appleton | date = 1969 | page = 54 | location = | isbn = | accessdate = 2013-12-30 | quote = Of 2300 indicated horsepower, the Stanley was a powerful little ship for her day. }} </ref>

<ref name=AmericanShippingNews> {{cite book | url = http://books.google.ca/books?id=WCLmAAAAMAAJ&q=%22CGS+Stanley%22+OR+%22Canadian+Government+Ship+Stanley%22&dq=%22CGS+Stanley%22+OR+%22Canadian+Government+Ship+Stanley%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2C7CUtXcM8OdyQHWwYHYCw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAjgU | title = American Shipping, Volume 15 | publisher = American Shipping News | author = | date = 1922 | page = | location = | isbn = | accessdate = 2013-12-30 | quote = ...Sunday being in the ice with rudder disable near River Inhabitants, on the Cape Breton coast, arrived here convoyed by the C.G.S. Stanley, which responded to her calls for assistance. }} </ref>

<ref name=ChurchillStanley> {{cite book | url = http://books.google.ca/books?id=M7qHCsUuSGkC&pg=PA88&dq=%22CGS+Stanley%22+OR+%22Canadian+Government+Ship+Stanley%22+churchill&hl=en&sa=X&ei=WDHCUqiWNYOgyAGNwoH4Cw&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22CGS%20Stanley%22%20OR%20%22Canadian%20Government%20Ship%20Stanley%22%20churchill&f=false | title = Canada's Arctic Outlet: A History of the Hudson Bay Railway | publisher = University of California Press | author = Howard A. Fleming | date = 1957 | page = | location = | isbn = | accessdate = 2013-12-30 | quote = Nor was the problem of navigation in Hudson Strait neglected. In January 1927, the decision was made to send a new and bona fide expedition to examine ice conditions and "to study the requirements necessary to ensure safe navigation." The expedition, under the command of N.B. McLean, left Halifax July 17, 1927, in two ships, the C.G.S. Stanley and the S.S. Larch, carrying equipment and personnel to man three base camps, one at each end of the Strait and one in the middle. }} </ref>

Please go check out recent FA ship articles on how complete citations need to be. Quotes are not necessary and neither are links, especially to google books where links go in and out of service on a daily basis. I also oppose any changes to the citation style as you intend to reintroduce unreliable sources and incomplete citations. I don't see how any link to myshopify would be considered acceptable. My suggestion to you is go to your local library. Llammakey (talk) 13:13, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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