Talk:Bombing of Zadar in World War II

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Austrian census - references?[edit]

Serbocroatian language in Austria-Hungary? Wasn't it officially intorduced in Kingdom of Yugoslavia?

No.--Giovanni Giove 23:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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As it stands the quality of this article is low. The references section is huge but no elements of text are linked to them. And the contributor of references has added virtually nothing to the text itself which seems contradictory if they had som much material to hand. description of the actual bombing is absent. Day or night attack? Medium or heavy bombers which units what targets? GraemeLeggett 12:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree and no changes made to fix it in the last month :-( --Philip Baird Shearer 13:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It seems that it was not bombed by the RAF (google: "Your search - Zara site:www.raf.mod.uk - did not match any documents"), or if it was then they were not straticic raids. The USAAF Twelfth Air Force that is mentioned in the article was a tactical airforce. The USAAF startigic airforce in that theater was the Fifteenth Air Force --Philip Baird Shearer 13:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)The november 2 daylight bombing was preceded about 5 days before by a night raid where the first bomb landed behind my house in the Val de Ghisi neighborhood outside the old city walls about a kilometer south .It occured around 10 pm it was assisted by flares about 200 persons died when a refuge near Cerreria was hit.I was 121/2 years old at the time.[reply]
I translated the bulk of this article from the Croatian Wikipedia. It was not referenced there. An Italian user then added all these references to support the "Italianness" of the city of Zadar. I would remove them, but I'd rather not draw myself into any more conflicts over Croatian vs. Italian sources. Also, the original translation did not have reference to which particular part of the air force participated, only mentioning them as American B-52s. Someone added these specifics later. --Thewanderer 21:36, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Your translation was full of low-profile nationalistic propaganda. I had to rewrite large part of the article, to bring it at a decent level. This has nothing do with the "Italianess", that is simply a matter of fact (if you like it or not). There was not a conflict of sources: the original version was, in simply words, full of lies. All the possible refences are inserted in the external links, at the end of the article.--Giovanni Giove 09:36, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Had to have a quick check - fortunately it was the B-25 Mitchell (a light/medium bomber or tactical bomber) mentioned. GraemeLeggett 08:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

bibliography[edit]

way over size at the moment, needs a trim. I think 50% gone by the end of the day should be about right. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GraemeLeggett (talk • contribs) 11:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I think we should remove this from the copyedit backlog. Puddytang 01:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

giovanni giove, who do you think you are when you entitle yourself to remove somebody else's comment? THE FACT IS that all the references are from the fascistic and irredentistic web sites! would it be ok if somebody wrote something about german occupation of poland and at the same time gave nazzistic references????? no, it wouldn't. i understand you're italian but for god's sake you cannot allow yourself to behave like that. many slavic people died fighting the axis forces in dalmatia, and by doing this you are ruining the memory of them. i know that there was an injustice towards your people, but not all the partisans are guilty of that. needless to say, partisans were on the winning and anti-fascistic (anti-nazzistic) side. do you understand me?

Fatalities[edit]

"Fatalities recorded range from under 1,000, up to as many as 4,000 of the city's 20,000 inhabitants"

the statement is inaccurate, the city was full of refugees from the countriside due to the war conditions there max estimations put the inhabitants to double the numbers from peacetime

regards

Cunibertus (talk) 15:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Claims allies bombarded Zadar because of partisan reports[edit]

The article states: "The Allied command was lured into attacking Zadar/Zara by reports from Tito's partisans which exaggerated the German presence there".

I've not seen any evidence provided for these claims, and since the great majority of Allied documents from the period have been long unclassified, such totally unsubstantiated claims should be removed, unless reliable, NPOV sources are provided. As noted in the article Yugoslavia and the Allies, the British had broken German codes and thus had very detailed knowledge of German military movements. The British used this signals intelligence to guide their actions in Yugoslavia, so it seems inconceivable they did not know of the true German presence in Zadar, or had to rely on partisan sources in any way Thhhommmasss (talk) 21:35, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is uncited for several years, delete it. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:42, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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