Talk:Blazer

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Cleaning up[edit]

Does it need further cleaning up? (RJP 11:30, 9 October 2005 (UTC))[reply]

Eh?[edit]

This is not really the case: In schools this is likely to vary according to the student's standing in the school; whether a member of the junior or senior school, being a prefect or having been awarded colours. I'll change it unless anyone objects.
Ahkayah cuarenta y siete 17:21, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Practice will vary but I must admit, my knowledge of schools comes from some time ago. :-) (RJP 18:22, 4 November 2005 (UTC))[reply]

Doesn't seem necessarily likely. Most of the schools in my area (Hampshire, UK) seemed to take the easier route of using different coloured/patterned ties for that kind of distinction rather than any markings on the blazer. (Wight1984 13:18, 22 June 2007 (GMT))

In my school (Queensferry High) only the senior students wear blazers and the prefects have little coloured trimmings sown on to the lapels. 88.104.254.106 (talk) 20:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Blazer, New Article[edit]

Picture[edit]

I think we need a picture for this one, so if someone could find an appropriate and allowed one, please put it up. --76.172.213.126 03:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think there should be a couple of group shots of types of blazers to show variety. I'll find some. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.56.118.62 (talk) 01:01, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Types of blazers...[edit]

Some talking points regarding blazers, for the consideration of Wiki readers:


1. Paul Keers, in his book A Gentleman's Wardrobe (1987 -- U.S. edition), has a section discussing blazers of different types. He refers to double-breasted blazers with gold buttons as "naval blazers". He also mentions that "naval blazers" have flap pockets, while "sporting or school blazers" have patch pockets (essentially a reference to single-breasted blazers). The highly colourful blazers in solids and stripes, from which the word is most likely to have originated, and generally restricted to college yachting and rowing clubs, he refers to as "coloured and striped summer blazers".

2. Allan Warren, a society photographer in the U.K., quotes in his book Dukes, Queens And Other Stories (1999) a statement made by Stephen Barry, formerly Prince Charles's valet, at a party in which Barry defines blazers as colourful striped odd jackets and plain odd jackets (with gold buttons) are "polo jackets".

3. At various times, both Prince Charles and his father, Prince Philip, have been photographed at polo grounds wearing double-breasted blazers with 8 gold buttons. At first glance, these jackets bear a high resemblance to Royal Navy officer's coats, although the polo connection is supportive, in part, of Stephen Barry's definition of "polo jackets" (see my point #2 above).


Overall, I am proposing to add the bits noted above to the main Wiki article, with references. Although most readers may not be interested in the more esoterica aspects of this topic, I think it is reasonable to hope that a subdivision of the definition of "blazer" could eventually be arrived at to accomodate the distinct variations in types of blazers which can be observed.

Tony Ventresca 23:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


For what its worth, I think this would be a good addition, and Blazers should be seperate, though linked to Sport Jackets. 216.165.126.103 03:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that Sports Coat and Blazer should be two separate articles, although linked as is; someone with more Wikexperience should take off the headers from the pages suggesting they be merged. They are not the same thing at all. 24.215.238.186 01:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding (1)

(A). The school blazer he is describing is nothing other than cheap manufacturing. Stick on pockets etc are just an indication of cheap.

(B) I am ex Royal Navy and wear a blazer occasionally. We never referred to our blazers by double or single breasted as Navy blazer or Civilian blazer (which would be the natural construct). I imagine naval blazer was an invention used in a book that has not caught on or never existed. Either way, it is not used. Double breasted is just a slightly more formal version of a jacket than single breasted..

2 & 3 Also, 3 above does not support 2. 2 is a story, 3 is some people wearing jackets. You might as well say (2) it always rains on Christmas Day (3) here is a picture of it raining on the 25th Dec ergo it always rains on Christmas Day — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.56.114.138 (talk) 00:57, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dates?[edit]

When were they introduced? Johnbod 13:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The OED has the first mention of "Blazer" in 1880,[1] which makes the whole "HMS Blazer" story highly doubtful. 35 years without any written record? In the Royal Navy, obsessed with reports and logbooks? Can we just throw that whole part out? Cato82 (talk) 18:58, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References


The first two paragraphs of History are contradictory. S C Cheese (talk) 20:15, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oxbridge boat clubs?[edit]

This style is also worn by some boat clubs, such as those in Cambridge or Oxford, with the piped version only on special occasions such as a boat club dinner.

This sentence seems somwhat out of place, and is also factually incorrect: blazers are common across most (if not all) English clubs (less so in Scotland, Wales unknown, almost inexistant outside of the British Isles). Piping is simply part of the design of a clubs blazer, i.e. one will not wear a piped version of a blazer just for a boat club dinner. Some clubs will have a different style of piping for certain crews, and some will have two different blazer colours depending on the season. 128.232.128.144 (talk) 18:44, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, I've never heard of two blazers for one club. There's the club blazer and that is it.

Also the article makes constant teference to Oxford and Cambridge when, to the best of my knowledge, there are 100's of rowing clubs all over the world. Thames, kingston, hong kong, washington, Munich etc... I assume most have their own blazer - even the Europeans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.56.115.221 (talk) 00:44, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More on types of blazers...[edit]

Some UK schools and some websites refer to "Ziggy blazers". I'm not sure what this means in terms of style or cut, but if someone knows, they could add this information to the article. (The only context that I know this word in is Ziggy Stardust.) Spel-Punc-Gram (talk) 19:09, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]