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Dog trainers recommend Bitter Orange to keep pets from chewing their leashes or other household items. JC Tustin CA

There's an intersting article on this plant in the 'Plants for a future' database, see:

http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Citrus+aurantium

P.S: I was actually looking for the 'Citrus vulgaris' which apparently is a synonym for the 'Citrus aurantium'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.87.139.112 (talk) 12:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Footnote 2 is used to advance the claim that bitter orange is not effective for weight loss, but the article in question asserts that in the abstract rather than actually being a study about bitter orange's effectiveness. The Mayo Clinic's website suggests that there is evidence that it is effective, but still recommends against it. The claim for or against effectiveness should probably be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.125.2.208 (talk) 19:46, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HEAVY bias[edit]

The page is mostly about health risk scaremongering and anti-stimulant propaganda. Not even nicotine has such hate press on Wikipedia.

I suggest that the page should be rewritten with a more unbiased point of view, mentioning important cultural and culinary significances of this fruit - eg. as a primary ingredient in several italian soft and alcoholic drinks, or in perfumery. 213.163.40.100 (talk) 15:01, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have cut the medical information back in the lede to something more proportionate. If you want to add to the other sections, please go ahead. Mangoe (talk) 16:19, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of objectivity[edit]

I agree that this article does lack balance, and even seems to contain factual inaccuracies. As time permits, I will attempt to re-write it in a manner more consistent with WP standards of objectivity. For the moment, the interested reader is referred to the WP article on synephrine (although it is still far from complete, and is in the process of being expanded, it now does contain some important references to discussions of safety issues).Xprofj (talk) 17:04, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits[edit]

I've reverted this set of edits for a couple of reasons. First of all, herbalgram.com is not a reliable source per this site's criteria. The edits also inappropriately downplay the fatal case of myocardial infarction associated with bitter orange. The source clearly identifies synephrine as the suspected culprit, but the editorial language we used downplays the source, saying that the supplement only "ostensibly" contained synephrine. We need to accurately convey the content and emphases of the sources we cite. MastCell Talk 17:50, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, it looks like someone was determined to underplay the mention of herbal supplements and the heart attack, IRWolfie- (talk) 19:59, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, I was actually thinking about dropping you a message about that change. Mangoe (talk) 20:14, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Take a look at: "Assessment of the adverse event reports associated with Citrus aurantium (bitter orange) from April 2004 to October 2009." by S. J. Stohs (2010) J. Functional Foods 2 235-238, before jumping to conclusions. I had started to modify the Citrus aurantium article gradually when MastCell peremptorily jumped down my throat. For the record, I am not "someone" who is determined to downplay the role of herbal supplements in causing health poblems . As I wrote to MastCell on his User talk page, I couldn't care less if C. aurantium -containing supplements disappeared off the shelves overnight. I personally believe that Supplements can be potentially dangerous, but there are a lot of qualifiers to that, and one shouldn't tar everything with the same brush. However, what I was trying to downplay was a perceived bias against C. aurantium based on original wording that was very prejudicial, and summarizing only one of many publications on the subject. It's easy to cherry-pick adverse reports, and this sort of bias doesn't belong in WP either. If MastCell had not so rudely interrupted my ongoing edit, I would have eventually buttressed my comments appropriately, with many additional citations both pro and con. It is not WP's job to protect the public from itself by selecting what literature is cited in a particular article. I agree that we should all try to "accurately convey the content and emphases of the sources we cite", but this is a difficult and subjective process, and almost impossible to achieve without some element of bias creeping in.Xprofj (talk) 00:57, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Caribbean sugar[edit]

As far as I am aware, there is no requirement for the sugar that is used in making marmalade to be sourced from the Caribbean, nor even that it be cane sugar (refined sucrose obtained from beets is exactly the same substance as refined sucrose obtained from cane). I intend to correct this shortly. MrDemeanour (talk) 12:19, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I made that change. MrDemeanour (talk) 13:44, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Non edible?[edit]

I am sure this is plainly wrong, even if cited from a book. I eat them all the time, even though it is clearly an acquired taste. However it is clearly common in some countries to eat them with sugar or salt or in salad. helohe (talk) 19:12, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes 100% edible mostly with salt try taking the juice from it put the juice in something and add salt with it. It will taste really good Dsabr2 (talk) 19:21, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Proposal for Internal Link (or rather the need for creation of a disambiguation page) for "Naranji" to here[edit]

  • As per This Wiktionary Page the word Naranji in Persian refers to this Fruit
  • Of use for navigation (at least here on the english side of wikipedia!) and may make looking up information easier for people due to the search engine potentially being able to find more stuff

Eric Lotze (talk) 16:16, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

US centric History section[edit]

The History section is quite brief on actual history, and is mainly from a "how the fruit came to Florida" perspective. It could maybe benefit from somebody with broader historical knowledge writing more of the history, possibly folding in some of the other historic info elsewhere in the article, or maybe be deleted as a separate section and folded in with the rest of the article. Andorand (talk) 18:45, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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