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"The task was intended to be impossible, but Beren and Lúthien, with the aid of Finrod of Nargothrond and Huan the Great Hound (both of whom died protecting Beren), braved many perils (even besting Sauron, then Morgoth's most powerful lieutenant) and captured a Silmaril. Beren then attempted to take another Silmaril from Morgoth's crown, but the tip of the dagger Angrist broke and cut Morgoth. As they escaped from Angband..."

There is no explanation as to why the blade cutting Morgoth would do anything. Was Morgoth there? Was he asleep? Was he watching peacefully, and then the blade cut him, so he decided to be angry? Should there be an explanation that he was put under Lúthien's spell, and the blade cut him and he started to awake -- or whatever the reason was? (Haven't read my Lay in a few months!) I'll do it, if nobody minds. Just thought I'd ask first. Editor at Large 12:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In The Two Towers, in the section right before Shelob stings Frodo Tolkien writes, "There agelong she had dwelt, and evil thing in spider-form,..., such as Beren fought in the Mountains of Terror in Doriath,..." It might fit in the section about his journey to Doriath, although I won't add it.Fud3 19:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)Fud3 3:15 June 20, 2007 EST[reply]

modify graphic[edit]

I like the "family tree" at the end of the article, but there is an opportunity to expand what the graphic gets across - by denoting men, elves, half-elven and maia. There is a complicated interrelationship to be expressed there, but I'm not sure if color coding or what would get the point across best. Pb8bije6a7b6a3w (talk) 07:46, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Since this whole family tree is displayed by a template, we should better discuss your idea at the template's talk page. I've left a comment over there. De728631 (talk) 16:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lord of the Rings[edit]

Given we say Saruman appears in The Fellowship of the Ring, surely Beren does as well, as his story is told both at weathertop and in the hall of Fire? GimliDotNet^{(Speak to me,Stuff I've done)} 12:38, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But Saruman's actually alive and is doing stuff, whereas Beren is merely mentioned and died roughly 6000 years before. 82.178.89.45 (talk) 14:32, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's right. Although he is mentioned there, Beren does not appear in FotR like Saruman who is acting in a second plot while the Fellowship progresses eastward. De728631 (talk) 14:37, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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