Talk:Bengalis/Archive 3

This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

Archive 4

Archive 5

List of people in the collage

Let's stop the war and try to settle for a list of people in the collage.

Proposal

Recently couple of editors have turned to each other with a long fight over whom to put in the collage and whom not. Arguably this list can contain some (5*6=) 30 people. They have to be very representative of Bengali people, including Bengali people from Bangladesh, West Bengal and abroad; people from history and from today; including politicians, artists and scientists. So lets discuss before making anymore inconsistent edits.

Let us try to fill in the gaps with some categorized distribution. I propose following estimate:

Bangladesh: 12~13, West Bengal: 12~13, Abroad: 4~6
Ancient (Before ~1800): 3~4, Renaissance/British Raj (1800~1950): 10~13, Post colonial and Modern (1950~Today): 13~17
Nobel laureates:3. Leaders (Social and political): 5~6,World Famous Entertainers: 4~5, Athletes with world records or victory in world championships not just local matches: 4~5, scientists/academicians: 4~5, Authors whose works are adapted into movies/translated into non-bengali languages/have got Booker Prize/Nobel Prize: 4~5, Artists with international fame: 3~4, Others: 5~8.

~ nafSadh did say 15:31, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Alternative proposal

Now that less than 2 days left for closure we have a rough idea of the biases. It became even clearer as I kept adding EVERY suggestion ever made. And clearer still when I kept redesigning the descriptions to maximize its potential. I hope that hard work is done.

From the biases evident in the voting trends and nomination trends we can have a quota system like the following:

Statesman: 2
Political leader: 1
Revolutionary leader: 1
Religious leader: 1
Spiritual leader: 2
Reformer: 2
Author: 2
Athlete: 2
Scientist: 2
Scholar: 2
Musician/Singer: 2
Dancer/Entertainer: 1
Film maker: 1
Film star: 2 (M/F)
Artist: 2
Other: 4

As for periods, there are only 4 eligible nominations from ancient and medieval ages. ALL of them qualify anyways. That also covers the spiritual leader part. Both Chaitanya and Atisa are from those times. Since the enthusiasm is more for recent people, I propose to divide the 26 left as:

Renaissance: 8
Modern: 8
Contemporary: 10 (people still working at the stuff they are famous for)

I suspect that the renaissance entries would be ALL from West Bengal, and the diaspora entries would ALL be among the contemporaries.

For regions, I don't think we need to have particular quotas for Bangladesh/East Bengal and West Bengal, particularly because there is a plain Bengal segment. It doesn't serve any purpose anyways, since this is not about Bangladeshi Bengalis or West Bengal Bengalis. This is, plainly, about all Bengalis. All I request are:

Please have a quota for the diaspora. I propose: 3
Do not let the number of final entries from any part of Bengal (Bangladesh/East Bengal and West Bengal) go down to less than one third, which means: 9
At that, I think, those marked with India can be counted as part of West Bengal entries

And, one final consideration:

Keep the number of female entries not less then one fourth of the total, which means: 8

Discussion on the proposals

Proposal 1

I have put in a few names. May be the above scheme needs a bit of tweaking:

We can't leave out the saints.
Bangladesh/West Bengal may not be enough. Describing my proposals, I could manage East/West Bengal at the best.

Nice initiative though. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:22, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the tweaks. Bangladesh can be he de-facto alternative for East Bengal. Specially for people from past, it is not easy to attribute them to either East or West. In that case, we can just use Bengal and count it as half from both BD and WB. nafSadh did say 16:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I added broad categories. Saints can be classified as Leaders. ~ nafSadh did say 16:58, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I believe anything post-colonial is modern. What is the benefit in slicing up a span of half a century into two parts? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Debatable. But, yeah I agree. Making changes.~ nafSadh did say 18:38, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Incidentally there's not too many women in the list. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 10:22, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

I have included a note to limit votes to 30. It will encourage more responsible voting. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 12:40, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

One big issue - how long shall this remain open for voting? At the current rate of participation I can't see a consensus in next few years. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 06:11, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Three to Six Months . Some users are busy in real life Cosmic Emperor (talk) 07:32, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Too long a time. If you are so busy in real life, that a simple vote take six months, I propose that you stay out voting. This shouldn't go on for more one or two weeks. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 09:01, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Aditya. Generally Talk discussion run for couple of days or so. When there is more major issue in discussion, like move or some policy, it is usually one-two weeks. Even village pump discussions won't go for so long as 3-6 months. If we had to go through such lengthy processes then, Wikipedia would be stale. Anyway, most major active contributors to this article seems to have participated. Previously, I have notified all related projects and all alive editors with 15+ edits. If we see there has been not much discussion for for one day or two, we know it is a good time to close. ~ nafSadh did say 02:14, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

I have changed some of the entries to read modern, instead of renaissance. Because, I have not seen any source referring to Bengal renaissance for events and people that occurred after WWI. 1920s is essentially the outer limit of renaissance, with Bose, Sukumar Ray and a few other tail enders. Enter 1930s and there is an active stand against the renaissance, with painters and poets, but also with a new generation of Muslim participants. So, from there on all is modern. If we want to make space for an ultra-modern or more-recent-than-modern tag, then probably we can do "contemporary"/"recent" or BLP. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 05:21, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Proposal 2

I have a new proposal, which is not very far from the old one, but slightly more realistic in my opinion. Please, comment. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:09, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I never intended the estimates I proposed to be strict but as guidelines. I think regardless, we should go with top 30 straw poll results. For females, I guess you meant 8 (which in nearly quarter of 30).

শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 15:47, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

The females, my bad, it's 8. What you would find interesting is that the top 30 straw very closely resembles the design i proposed, with a wee bit of variation. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:30, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

List of People

Poll

This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Following is an incomplete list of people;

Add whom you think should be there in the list. Please maintain the sort order (alphabetical) when adding a new candidate.
Please add your !vote at the end of appropriate list by signing your name followed by either Y {{aye}} or N {{nay}}
- If you have very fancy signature, please just add username
Aye or nay, do not vote more than the number of images possible to put in a collage. You have a maximum of 40 votes, positive or negative.
- You can vote, for or against, only once for each entry. Voting twice will cancel both votes.
- Voting for a striked out entry will not be counted as eligible votes, but will still be deducted from you total quota of vote, as the vote was a conscious decision.
If you withdraw any of your aye or nay votes, please also remove the {{aye}}/{{nay}} template while moving it to other/comments section.
Please don't mess up the codes. If someone catches you doing it ALL your votes will be removed.

Abanindranath Tagore (Author/Arist, Modern, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:46, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:23, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Shovon (talk) 10:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 11:31, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani (Political leader, Modern, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 07:17, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Rahat (Message) 02:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:28, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y 115ash^→(☏) 10:47, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  12. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Shovon (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N CosmicEmperor
  3. N devx101 [TALK] 15:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Comments:
  1. ~~nafSadh~~ Withdrawn; space exceeding.
  2. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC) withdrawn
Abdullah Abu Sayeed (Educator, Contemporary, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:30, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N devx101 [TALK] 15:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada (Religious leader, Contemporary, West Bengal)
1. 1. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Shovon (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:25, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. N Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. N Moony22 23:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. N -- devx101 [TALK] 15:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
  3. ~~nafSadh~~ Withdrawn
(Sher-e-Bangla) A. K. Fazlul Huq (Statesman, Modern, East Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 07:17, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y nafSadh did say 19:55,
  3. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Rahat (Message) 02:48, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. YCoolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:25, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N devx101 [TALK] 15:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Akram Khan (Dancer, Contemporary, UK)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:11, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
~~Alamgir (pop singer)~~ (Singer, Contemporary, Pakistan) * No Image
~~Alaol~~ (Author, Medieval, Bengal) * No Image
Allauddin Khan (Musician, Modern, East Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Shovon (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:30, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Ali Akbar Khan (Musician, Contemporary, East Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:05, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Shovon (talk) 10:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N 115ash^→(☏) 13:19, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
~~Amar Bose~~ (Scientist, Enterpreneur, Modern, US) * No Image
Amartya Sen (Nobel laureate/Scholar, Contemporary, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y nafSadh did say 15:31, 31 Mar]] 20:41, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
  2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
  3. Y Shovon (talk) 17:55, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 07:17, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:30, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Rahat (Message) 02:48, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  12. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  13. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  14. Y Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  15. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  16. Y -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  17. Y--Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  18. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N --Calypsomusic (talk) 11:33, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
  2. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Amitav Ghosh (Author, Contemporary, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Shovon (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:00, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N 115ash^→(☏) 13:19, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Anandamayi Ma (Spiritual leader, Modern, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:46, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. NShovon (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. N Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
~~Anirvan~~ (Spiritual leader, Modern, West Bengal) * No Image
1. ayes:
  1. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Arundhati Roy (Author, Contemporary, India)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:55, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y-- devx101 [TALK] 15:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y--Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N 115ash^→(☏) 13:17, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. Personally, I oppose her views. Still, I believe that she has got the kind of connect/reach among the global audience to be included in this list. Only issue, I am not sure if she can speak Bengali or not. Although she carries a Bengali surname, she was born and brought up in Kerala. If that's not an issue, I would also support her inclusion. Can someone in the know please clarify? Thanks in advance. :) Shovon (talk) 10:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. I don't think she can speak much, if any, Bengali. No evidence of that on the web. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:14, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
~~Ashoke Sen~~ (Scientist, Modern, West Bengal) * No Image
Ashok Kumar (Film star, Modern, India)
1. ayes:
  1. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y May be because he is more famous outside bengal and I am a non bengali.--Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:46, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:30, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Atiśa (Spiritual leader, Ancient, East Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
  3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
3. other/comments:
  1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
Avijit Roy (Author, Contemporary, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y In the light of recent events if not him then at least one of the deceased bloggers deserves a place here.Vyom25 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N What? --115ash^→(☏) 13:20, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. I don't believe that he can or should make the list. As far as killing of free thinkers go, I believe Humayun Sir's name has accumulated enough ayes already. Shovon (talk) 10:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Azizul Haque (scholar) (Scholar, Contemporary, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Must be at the top.--115ash^→(☏) 10:48, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. He is the greatest Muslim religious leader in Bengal. It is shameful that people are not giving vote for him. --115ash^→(☏) 13:24, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Bagha Jatin (Revolutionary leader, Modern, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y From a long list of Bengal revolutionaries.--Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:30, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:05, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N nafSadh did say 01:15, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. N--115ash^→(☏) 13:22, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay (Author, Renaissance, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y User:CosmicEmperor
  2. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:30, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Rahat (Message) 02:49, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y--Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
3. others/comments:
  1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Bhanu Banerjee (Film star, Modern, West Bengal)
Bidhan Chandra Roy (Statesman, Modern, West Bengal)
Bipasha Basu (Film star, Contemporary, India)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N Are you serious? RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:30, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. N huh!? Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. She is famous, she won awards, have big hits, is international, has a following, has a brand and is a very good example of a Bengali doing good outside Bengal. All that and apparently she is an atrocious choice. How so? I hope looking good is not a disqualification. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 05:28, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Well, if we are looking at a well known bong-beauty with a mass fan-base or international following, I guess Rani Mukherjee or Konnie Huq would have been far better choices. Since it is almost time for closure, I am not adding any other names to the list. Let's only concentrate on what we have already had on the platter. In fact, I have missed to add some more names too! Like Alamgir (Singer), Khudiram Bose (the first martyr of the Indian independence movement), Isha Guha (first Bengali to represent England in any team sports at the world events) etc. Shovon (talk) 10:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. It is in the semantics. One of the biggest film stars Bengalis ever produced can definitely be described this way. Like this little fascist conspirator who became the king of the jungle for a day by the grace of imperial genocidal Japanese Army. LOL. That's no way to describe things. ~~Anyways, I am adding your suggestions.~~ Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. In that case if Sharmila Tagore and Jaya Bachchan can be left out along with Rakhee Gulzar , as showing body and doing sex scenes is becoming a main criteria for the greatest Bengali woman. Subhash Bose was not king of the jungle. India was under British rule. He believed in Enemy's enemy is my friend.Japan and Germany were enemy of the British .--C E (talk) 05:04, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. You have missed the point. So far you have managed to miss all points in all discussions. I wonder why I am not surprised. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 05:40, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. On second thought, everyone can add the names they want see here. I have been acting upon everyone's suggestion for some time now. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 08:03, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Okay, I was feeling gallant and I added everyone's suggestions. But, @Shovon76:, there is not Alamgir (singer) or Isha Guha article on Wikipedia. This vote is about 30 Wikipedia images to represent Bengali people, not a poll to find greatest Bengalis. And, unfortunately a nation is also represented by good looking actresses too. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:05, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Brojen Das (Athelete, Modern, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y nafSadh did say 18:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 11:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:42, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (Spiritual leader, Medieval, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y User:CosmicEmperor
  2. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y nafSadh did say 06:04, 13 April 2015 (UTC) How did I forgot to put my vote here.
2. nays:
  1. N Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. N --115ash^→(☏) 11:18, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Dola Banerjee (Athlete, Contemporary, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:15, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Fazle Hasan Abed (Reformer, Contemporary, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:42, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Rahat (Message) 03:01, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y Rihaz (talk) 14:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
3. other/comments:
  1. ~~nafSadh~~ withdrawn
Fazlur Rahman Khan (Engineer, Modern, US)
1. ayes:
  1. Y nafSadh did say 18:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Rossi101 (talk) 08:08, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Rossi101
  3. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 11:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Shovon (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Rihaz (talk) 14:38, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Gobar Guha (Athlete, Modern, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:42, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. N Rahat (Message) 03:03, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
3. others/comments:
  1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
~~Gopala I~~ * No Image
1. ayes:
  1. ~~Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown
2. nays:
3. other/comments:
  1. nafSadh did say 21:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC) No image
  2. How is it matter, weather there is no picture of the person on wikimedia? Can you please clarify?☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. It matters because we are voting to select 30 images to use. Haven't you noticed that? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 14:14, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Thanks, I didn't notice this.☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 14:04, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. I don't believe I'm reading this! শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 18:27, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Haji Shariatullah, (Reformer, Renaissance, Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
Hason Raja (Musician, Renaissance, Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y CosmicEmperor
  2. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Humayun Ahmed, (Author, Contemporary, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Rossi101 (talk) 07:59, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Rossi101
  2. Y nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 11:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y - Rahat (Message) 02:50, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y Samudrakula (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N CosmicEmperor
  2. N -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy (Political leader, Modern, Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 07:43, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Shovon (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Irene Khan (Reformer, Contemporary, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y User:CosmicEmperor
  2. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Rossi101 (talk) 08:08, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Rossi101
  4. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  12. Y AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  13. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  14. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
3. others/comments:
  1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar (Author/Reformer, Renaissance, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y User:CosmicEmperor
  3. Y nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Moony22
3. other/comments:
  1. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
  2. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Jagadish Chandra Bose (Scientist, Modern, Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
  3. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Rahat (Message) 02:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  12. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  13. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  14. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  15. Y Samudrakula (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
  2. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
4. other/comments:
  1. One of the most respected scientists in Indian subcontinent. Kindly read his wikipage or even search internet for reliable reference instead of blindly saying nay User:CosmicEmperor (unsigned)
Jamal Nazrul Islam (Scientist, Contemporary, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y nafSadh did say 18:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N --115ash^→(☏) 11:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Jasimuddin, (Author, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Rahat (Message) 03:04, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Samudrakula (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N CosmicEmperor
  2. N Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Jawed Karim (Entrepreneur, Contemporary, US)
1. ayes:
  1. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
  2. Y Shovon (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Rossi101 (talk) 08:08, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Rossi101
  5. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 22:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. YCoolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
3. other/comments:
  1. ~~nafSadh~~
  2. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown
Jhumpa Lahiri (Author, Contemporary, US)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N --115ash^→(☏) 11:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Jibanananda Das, (Author, Modern, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Kadambini Ganguly (Doctor, Renaissance, West Bengal)
Kamini Roy (Author, Renaissance, East Bengal)
Kazi Nazrul Islam (Author, Modern, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
  3. Y Shovon (talk) 07:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y--115ash^→(☏) 11:28, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  12. Y AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  13. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
3. other/comments:
  1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
  3. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown
(Nawab Sir) Khwaja Salimullah, (Reformer, Renaissance, Bengal)
1. ayes.
2. nays:
  1. N Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N nafSadh did say 21:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Khudiram Bose (Revolutionary leader, Renaissance, West Bengal)
1. 1. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Kishore Kumar (Film star/Singer, Modern, India)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Shovon (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:05, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Oh Yeah! Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y--Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Konnie Huq (TV Star, Contemporary, UK)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:11, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Lalon (Spiritual leader, Renaissance, East Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 09:38, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y - Rahat (Message) 02:45, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
M. A. G. Osmani (Military leader, Contemporary, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:24, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 13:57, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y if we are adding so many revolutionaries from Indian independence movement, then Osmani certainly deserves a place fro his role in Bangladesh Liberation War. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Mani Lal Bhaumik (Scientist, Modern, US)
1. ayes:
  1. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
  2. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N -- $AHLM13$ talk 14:20, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. N --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 13:57, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Maqsudul Alam (Scientist, Contemporary, US)
1. ayes.
  1. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Meghnad Saha (Scientist, Modern, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
  2. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:46, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y--Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  12. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays.
Michael Madhusudan Dutt (Author, Renaissance, Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y nafSadh did say 19:55, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. N --115ash^→(☏) 13:27, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Mir Mosharraf Hossain, (Author, Renaissance, Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Mithun Chakraborty (Film star, Contemporary, West Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:21, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Mrinal Sen (Film maker, Contemporary, West Bengal)
Muhammad Abdul Bari (Community leader, Contemporary, UK)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Moony22 23:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y Only Bengali included in in The 500 Most Influential Muslims --115ash^→(☏) 10:45, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:25, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. N devx101 [TALK] 15:35, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
3. other/comments:
  1. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
(Haji) ~~Muhammad Mohsin~~ (Philanthropist, Renaissance, Bengal) * No Image
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Muhammad Qudrat-i-Khuda (Scientist, Modern, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
  1. N CosmicEmperor
  2. N ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Muhammad Shahidullah (Scholar, Renaissance, Bengal)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  3. Y --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  6. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 11:31, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
Muhammad Yunus (Nobel laureate/Reformer, Contemporary, Bangladesh)
1. ayes:
  1. Y nafSadh did say 15:31, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
  3. Y Shovon (talk) 17:55, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
  4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 07:17, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
  5. Y Rossi101 (talk) 08:08, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Rossi101
  6. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
  7. Y Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  8. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
  9. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  10. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  11. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  12. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  13. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
  14. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
  15. YCoolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
2. nays:
3. other/comments:
  1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
  2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
  3. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown
~~Nachiketa Chakraborty~~ (Singer, Contemporary, West Bengal) * No Image
Nafees Bin Zafar (Engineer, Contemporary, US)
1. ayes:
  1. Y Sharif udd (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Nandalal Bose (Artist, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Shovon (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:05, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays.
1. N --115ash^→(☏) 13:29, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Nawab Abdul Latif, (Reformer, Renaissance, Bengal)

ayes.
1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Nirad C. Chaudhuri (Author, Contemporary, England)

ayes.
nays:
1. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Pankaj Roy (Athlete, Modern, West Bengal)

No Image w/ enough face

P. C. Sorcar (Magician, Modern, East Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC) (Possible bias: I'm from Tangail and his home is pretty near mine)
2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
3. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N --115ash^→(☏) 13:14, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
2. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown

Pola Uddin, Baroness Uddin (Baroness, Contemporary, UK)

ayes:
1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y 115ash^→(☏) 10:50, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
nays.

Pranab Mukherjee (Satesman, Contemporary, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:33, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y--Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N Presidentship is largely a ceremonial post in India, perhaps, even provincial leaders are more influential. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Pritilata Waddedar (Revolutionary leader, Renaissance, East Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:11, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:

Qazi Motahar Hossain (Author, scientist, Modern, Bangladesh)

Raakhee (Film star, Contemporary, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Rabindranath Tagore (Nobel laureate/Author, Renaissance, Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y nafSadh did say 15:31, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
3. Y Shovon (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 07:17, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
11. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
12. Y Respect. Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
13. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
14. Y AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
15. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
16. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
17. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
other/comments:
1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn

Raja Ganesha (King, Medieval, East Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Raja Ganesha reigned for only few years that too under immense influence of the clergies, not an influential figure. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
5. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

R. C. Majumdar (Scholar, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N 115ash^→(☏) 13:30, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Ram Mohan Roy (Religious leader/Reformer, Renaissance, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
3. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y Of Course. Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
11. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
12. Y AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
13. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
14. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Moony22 23:06, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
others/comments:
1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Rania Khan (Statesman, Contemporary, UK)

ayes:
nays:
1. N Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

(Thakur Sri) Ramakrishna (Spiritual leader, Renaissance, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 23:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N nafSadh did say 21:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
5. N Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Rani Mukherjee (Film star, Contemporary, India)

ayes:
1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:11, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:

Rash Behari Bose (Revolutionary leader, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Founded INA in Japan , Prominent freedom fighter User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
2. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N 115ash^→(☏) 13:32, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Ravi Shankar (Musician, Modern, India)

ayes:
1. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
2. Y Shovon (talk) 07:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
11. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
other/comments:
1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn

R. D. Burman (Musician, Modern, West Bengal)

Ritwik Ghatak (Film maker, Modern, West Bengal)

Roquia Sakhawat Hussain (Reformer, Modern, East Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
2. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
other/comments:
1. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown

Runa Laila (Singer, Contemporary, Bangladesh)

ayes:
1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:42, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Salman Khan (educator) (Educator, Contemporary, US)

ayes:
1. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Shovon (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
3. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Rossi101 (talk) 08:08, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Rossi101
6. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
11. Y AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
12. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
other/comments:
1. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown

Sarat Chandra Chattopadhyay, (Author, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Satyajit Ray (Film maker, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
4. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
5. Y Shovon (talk) 07:39, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 07:43, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
11. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
12. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn

Satyendra Nath Bose (Scientist, Modern, East Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Please consult Bose–Einstein condensate and Boson . If he can't make it , it would be a Biased votingUser:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
2. Y nafSadh did say 18:33, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Shovon (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Proud Of. Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
11. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
12. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn

Saurav Ganguly (Athlete, Contemporary, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Shovon (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Great player--115ash^→(☏) 10:52, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments
1. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit) (moved previous aye to other as CosmicEmperor added a nay vote).
3. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
4. ~~Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrawn

Shakib Al Hasan (Athlete, Contemporary, Bangladesh)

ayes:
1. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Rossi101 (talk) 07:59, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Rossi101
5. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Tanweer^talk 16:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 11:13, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
11. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
12. Y Samudrakula (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N--Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N Not so great as Sourav. RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N CosmicEmperor
5. N Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. Couldn't help commenting. You have your right to say I don't like Shakib, and I don't follow sports of any kind. But, come on guys. You are saying Shakib is out because he is not as good as Saurav. He is not. He is nowhere near Saurav. But, what does this got to do with his inclusion? Shall we say no to ALL other leaders because Mujib is here? Shall we say no to ALL other authors because Tagore is here? I really can't see any rationality here, only PURE prejudice. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:33, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
3. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown

Sharadindu Bandyopadhyay (Author, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Creator of Detective Byomkesh Bakshi User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
2. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Sharmila Tagore (Film star, Contemporary, India)

aye:
1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:54, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Amitrochates (talk) 11:56, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

~~Shashanka~~

No Image

ayes:
1. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
other/comments:
1. nafSadh did say 21:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC) No Image

Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (Statesman, Modern, Bangladesh)

ayes:
1. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
2. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 07:17, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Shovon (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Why Not? Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
11. Y Aftabuzzaman (talk) 13:57, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
12. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
13. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
14. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. ~~nafSadh~~Withdrawn
2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
3. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown

Shefali Chowdhury (Film star, Contemporary, US)

ayes:
1. Y $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N CosmicEmperor
2. N Shovon (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC) (My belief: She doesn't deserve to be in the list too!)
3. N Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. She and Afshan Azad are the only Bangladeshis who had success in British film.--115ash^→(☏) 10:56, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn

~~Siraj ud-Daulah~~

Not Bengali

ayes:
1. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. was he a Bengali in mothertongue? User:CosmicEmperor (unsigned)
2. No. User:Aditya Kabir (unsigned)
3. No reliable source exists to support that he was a Bengali.Shovon (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
4. I do concur with Shovon76 nafSadh did say 18:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
5. No evidence they were Bengalis. Infact they are believed to be east Iranians. Eta janar jonno porun "Nobabi Amole Murshidabad" by Sushil Chaudhury (A professor of Jadavpur University). RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
6. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown
7. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Sri Aurobindo (Spiritual leader, Renaissance, East Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 09:38, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
5. N He has not done anything special --115ash^→(☏) 10:57, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
6. N AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

(Netaji) Subhas Chandra Bose (Revolutionary leader, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 15:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Shovon (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
10. Y Respect. Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
11. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
12. Y Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. Most respected Freedom Fighter of India after Mahatma Gandhi. Took the support of Germany and Japan to overthrow British Rule in India. President of Indian National Congress (1938). Head of State, Prime Minister, Minister of War and Foreign Affairs of Provisional Government of Free India based in the Japanese-occupied Andaman and Nicobar Islands (1943–1945) User:CosmicEmperor (unsigned)
2. I fail to recognize why Netaji is more important leader than Sher-e-Bangla, Bhasani or Bangabandhu? I couldn't even fit in Bhasani and Bangabandhu in the 30 -- both of them are really my favorites. I had to refrain from voting some other of my favorites too. It is not a place for pushing our own POVs and favorites. It is not even voting, rather poll for building rationalized neutral consensus. BTW, he was Head of State for Islands, not of any Bengal. nafSadh did say 14:00, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Netaji is the only war hero West Bengal has. He is very important. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:35, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
4. I'd agree with that. My concern is we are having a lot of leaders. Last time we checked, we had 12 leaders in top 30! We should have more from other types. nafSadh did say 16:25, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
5. I don't think , you believed I mentioned everything about Subhash Bose in my above comment itself. I had to write a few lines. I can't write the full Biography above.--C E (talk) 17:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Never mind. The full biography is here - Subhas Chandra Bose As for your worries, check out this comment. Cheers. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:11, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
7. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn

Suchitra Sen (Film star, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y--Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N User:115ash unsigned

Sufia Kamal (Author/Reformer, Modern, Bangladesh)

Sunil Gangopadhyay, (Author, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y nafSadh did say 16:14, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N --115ash^→(☏) 13:12, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

(Master Da) Surya Sen, (Revolutionary leader, Renaissance, Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N User:115ash unsigned

Swami Vivekananda (Spiritual leader, Renaissance, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Vignesh Mani M (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y User:CosmicEmperor (added by User:Aditya Kabir from previous edit)
3. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Deserves. Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y--Anoopkn (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 11:31, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn

(Sir) Syed Ameer Ali, (Reformer, Renaissance, Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N nafSadh did say 04:06, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn

Syed Mujtaba Ali (Author, Modern, East Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Shovon (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 06:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
nays.
1. N --115ash^→(☏) 13:34, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Taslima Nasrin (Author, Contemporary, Bangladesh)

ayes:
1. Y ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Because she is controversial and hence notable she deserves a place.--Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Calypsomusic (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Oh Yes. Anand2202 (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Happiest persoN (talk) 09:14, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N nafSadh did say 21:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N --Aftabuzzaman (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
5. N Samudrakula (talk) 12:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
6. N Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
7. N--115ash^→(☏) 10:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
8. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. She is no legendary writer but a controversial one. She is often criticized for her extreme controversial writing on social,religious and many other issues which led her getting banished from Bangladesh. She is also criticized in India. Comparing to her of modern time writers, the name of Humayun Ahmed and Sunil Gangopadhyay should come first, they are much more popular in both Bangladesh and India and there is no controversy against them. Happiest persoN (talk) 09:14, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. ~~Aditya~~ Withdrawn
3. Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

~~Titumir (Political leader, Renaissance, Bengal)~~

No Image

ayes:
1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 17:14, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Rossi101 (talk) 08:08, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Rossi101
3. Y Vyom25 (talk) 06:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N $AHLM13$ talk 10:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N Shovon (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N 115ash^→(☏) 13:08, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. ~~☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)~~ withdrown

Uday Shankar (Dancer, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:46, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
nays.

Upamanyu Chatterjee (Author, Contemporary, India)

ayes:
1. Y Amitrochates (talk) 11:51, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:

Utpal Dutta (Film star, Modern, West Bengal)

Uttam Kumar (Film star, Modern, West Bengal)

ayes:
1. Y Rahat (Message) 03:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Shovon (talk) 09:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:05, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N Zayeem ^(talk) 10:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

~~Vidyapati~~

Not Bengali

ayes:
nays:
other/comments:
1. I attempted to nominate, but backed off as he was a Maithili poet and a Sanskrit writer. Which makes him ineligible to be one of most prominent Bengalis. --nafSadh did say 19:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. I was pretending that Maithili counts as pre-Bangla or proto-Bangla. Striking out. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:48, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Zainul Abedin (Artist, Modern, Bangladesh)

ayes:
1. Y - Rahat (Message) 03:11, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y Rossi101 (talk) 07:59, 2 April 2015 (UTC)Rossi101
3. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 11:13, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Rihaz (talk) 08:37, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y Coolabahapple (talk) 02:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y Samudrakula (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
other/comments:
1. nafSadh did say 21:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Zahir Raihan, (Film maker, Modern, Bangladesh)

ayes:
1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 09:04, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y nafSadh did say 16:14, 6 April 2015 (UTC) Corrected my vote.
3. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 11:13, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N --115ash^→(☏) 10:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Ziaur Rahman (Political/Military leader, Modern, Bangladesh)

ayes:
1. Y Happiest persoN (talk) 07:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
2. Y☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
3. Y Zayeem ^(talk) 10:13, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
4. Y RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 03:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
5. Y Vanamonde93 (talk) 14:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
6. Y Sharif uddin (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
7. Y --115ash^→(☏) 11:01, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
8. Y ~ Nahid ^Talk 11:13, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
9. Y -AsceticRosé 02:40, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
nays:
1. N Shovon (talk) 11:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
2. N Amitrochates (talk) 11:56, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
3. N Samudrakula (talk) 19:47, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
4. N Coolabahapple (talk) 11:34, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
other/comments:
1. ~~nafSadh~~ withdrawn

Overview

This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

For an overview of votes: click here. (last updated: শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 18:48, 16 April 2015 (UTC) (FINAL count) using this script by nafSadh').

Following is a count of votes per user:

User:115ash (29) Y: 8 N: 21
User:Aditya Kabir (40) Y: 34 N: 6
User:Aftabuzzaman (22) Y: 18 N: 4
User:AHLM13 (29) Y: 7 N: 22
User:Amitrochates (40) Y: 33 N: 7
User:Anand2202 (17) Y: 15 N: 2
User:Anoopkn (18) Y: 18 N: 0
User:AsceticRose (33) Y: 14 N: 19
User:Calypsomusic (12) Y: 10 N: 2
User:Coolabahapple (30) Y: 29 N: 1
User:CosmicEmperor (32) Y: 26 N: 6
User:Ctg4Rahat (22) Y: 21 N: 1
User:devx101 (6) Y: 1 N: 5
User:Happiest persoN (56) Y: 46 N: 10 Redflag 16 excess votes
User:Kmzayeem (40) Y: 22 N: 18
User:Moony22 (4) Y: 1 N: 3
User:Nafsadh (40) Y: 32 N: 8
User:NahidSultan (40) Y: 40 N: 0
User:Rihazrihazrihaz (20) Y: 20 N: 0
User:Rossi101 (9) Y: 9 N: 0
User:Royroydeb (23) Y: 12 N: 11
User:Samudrakula (21) Y: 19 N: 2
User:Sharif uddin (14) Y: 13 N: 1
User:Shovon76 (28) Y: 21 N: 7
user:Tanweer Morshed (37) Y: 23 N: 14
User:Vanamonde93 (17) Y: 15 N: 2
User:Vignesh Mani M (12) Y: 11 N: 1
User:Vyom25 (24) Y: 21 N: 3
User:संजीव कुमार (40) Y: 39 N: 1

Hall of Code messups

Comments

Add your comments below.

This discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Remove this East Bengal , West Bengal ,Bangladesh tags from those who were born before 1930 during British rule

I think the current list is Okay but Ziaur Rehman , Taslima Nasreen , Doctor Bidhan Chandra Roy , R D Burman and some other legendary\famous Bengali could be added . And if you think this is solution , it maybe not as some fans of modern cricketers/actors will add their names here even if they don't come under all time greatestCosmic Emperor (talk) 16:36, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Can you please sign after which of the people you endorse? It would help us into having idea about the consensus. ~ nafSadh did say 16:49, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Signing made it look bad . you check whom I endorse in this edit history Cosmic Emperor (talk) 17:38, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Please don't add Shakib al Haasan here. he maybe the captain of Bangaldesh but he doesn't have large number world records under his name. Then the captain of German cricket team was also Bengali 9 years ago [1] , [2]Cosmic Emperor (talk) 17:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Shakib may be ranked at some point of time , but he is obviously not all time greatest all rounder of the game. If we create a collage for Bengali sportsstars , then we can add Shakib at the top level but not hereCosmic Emperor (talk)

How can we know which of these (now 42) candidates are most endorsed. Edit history will only tell the user who added it. We can endorse, just by putting our usernames without the bulk of time etc.

Shakib al Hassan, is routinely ranked #1 in Test and ODI all-rounders ranklist and arguably the most famous athlete from Bangladesh. Compared to Sourav Ganguly, he is equally famous. ~ nafSadh did say 18:04, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Or may be being number one test allrounder and number one ODI allrounder is not enough. He has to be better to warrant an inclusion. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Shakib is not the greatest all rounder of all time . [3]

Such rankings change every month and every year . Is he cricket's all time greatest allrounder like Imran Khan , Richard Hadlee, Kapil Dev , Ian Botham ?

Yes. I complete agree to you. Shakib must not be in the nomination list. He is not one of the all time greatest allrounders. Like Mani Lal Bhaumik is an all time greatest scientist like Newton or Einstein, Taslima Nasrin is an all time greatest writer like Goethe or Balzac, or Rash Behari Bose is an all time greatest revolutionary like Ché or Ho Chi Minh. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:49, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

I was prepared for that argument when i wrote the above lines. And my counter argument is that Science is practised all over the World, social reform movements happen all over the world . Freedom Fighters , Prime Ministers,Presidents exist everywhere . So its not compulsory for a great Benghali scientist to be all time great like Newton and Faraday, but cricket is a game popular mostly in Indian subcontinent(India, Pakistan,Bangladesh, Sri Lanka) .Most countries in europe , North America, South America, North Asia, Most of Africa don't play cricket or even follow it. The cricket teams of UAE, Hong Kong , USA are made up of people from Indian , Pakistani and Sri Lankan origin . So its very necessary for a South Asian to be a part of all time greatest cricketer in order to be considered greatest Bengali. Cricket maybe played in Australia and Uk but other countries don't have the same craze as here.If you want to remove Saurav Ganguly , I won't object but I will always object if Shakib is added here.Cosmic Emperor (talk) 17:13, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Your point is duly noted. We all know that you do not want Shakib Al Hasan here; you don't have say anything more to show how much you dislike SAH. However, we are discussing and OTHER editors' view do count. ~ nafSadh did say 17:22, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

I can completely agree to this line of thought — sceince is practiced everywhere, so you don't need to compare to the greats in other places, but cricket is not played everywhere so you MUST compare to the greats in other places. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:23, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Closing Time-frame

I believe that we should specify a date/time when the discussion will be closed. Let's give it a week's time at most and close the discussion on, say, the next Sunday, i.e. 12th April 2015. What do you say guys? Shovon (talk) 10:24, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

I can agree to it fine. Perhaps we also can do another round of promotion. May be a wikibanner that clearly has the closing date up front. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 10:39, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Agreed (Sunday 12 Apr 2015, 2359 UTC). How to do a Wikibanner? ~ nafSadh did say 13:10, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

GIF banners would take some time. I could make one, but not in time. The banner makers here could make too (like the Bangladesh banner). A good alternative is a banner-like Mbox. Use this template - Template:Mbox, Template:Message box or something from Category:Wikipedia award templates - or copy wiki-markups from any message box you like. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:37, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Where to put them? Putting them just in our userpages won't attract much discussion. It don't qualify for Village Pump or something like that either. An admin (e.g. @Titodutta:) may give some insight. ~ nafSadh did say 14:09, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

When you are ready for a formal closure, you may approach WP:ANRFC. --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:13, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
About promoting, I can not think anything at this moment. There is geolocation banner, but that will not be applicable here. I may try "mass messaging", if you have a list of usernames. Else you may try WP:RFC --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I have created this for promotion. I have used my signature here as an example. Check:

Please participate

There's a voting going on here. It needs to close, but consensus is not certain. We need more participation. The issues can't remain without a resolution. Please, check it out. Closure of the discussion has started. (refresh) Please, hurry. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Looks good. Where to put them? Post on Wikiproject Noticeboards and various userpages? ~ nafSadh did say 20:15, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I think so. :D Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, I just went through the whole discussion. Though promotion is a good idea to get more opinions on this issue, but we should also be aware that such thing could also attract editors with biased views and zero knowledge about Bengalis. Besides, it could also increase the number of SPAs getting involved here (we already have one). I think we should just refrain from mass messaging, however, the relevant WikiProjects should be informed. Also, about the time frame, 1 week is too short in my opinion, we need to have this continued for an extended time, perhaps till the end of April? --Zayeem ^(talk) 10:59, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

In my experience I have seen that long time frames generally do not work here, especially if the participation is already lukewarm. People respond better when there is an urgency, a deadline. This voting has already been on for over a week. From the starting day (31 March) we can probably have this for a total of three weeks, ending in 22 April. Also, when we select the recipients of the mass messaging, we can filter out the SPAs easily. I believe we should invite the top editors of West Bengal and Bangladesh, as well as editors from the bio project, because they are good in assessing article importance. BTW, what projects we need to notify? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 12:13, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Promotion

Let's invite every members in Wikiprojects Bangladesh and West Bengal. ~ nafSadh did say 12:20, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm using {{subst:User:Nafsadh/promo/Bengalis1|~~~~}} to promote. ~ nafSadh did say 14:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

I [1] notified Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Members: V-Z (can someone take over for the rest?) , [2] notified Wikipedia:WikiProject_Bangladesh/Members: N-Z (can someone start from A~ ?) [3] notifying Category:Bangladeshi_Wikipedians: (done B-Z) (can someone do the rest of A, I've done half of A too ?). ~ nafSadh did say 20:31, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Your template signs your name, with a past date. Can you correct that? BTW, I just did "A" in the Indian list. Half of the list are raging noobs and many are kindhearted vandals. I am sure all lists would be like that. Lol. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 07:32, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Passed signature as arg. It shall do. nafSadh did say 12:24, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Noobs would get experienced. There are many new Wikipedians who really want to learn editing neutrally and eventually they turn into experienced good editors. Vandals will pass away and socks will be tamed.

nafSadh did say 14:01, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nafsadh: Can you post to the Bangla Wikipedia? They have full editor access to the English one. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:28, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I have posted to some of them, whom I know in EN-Wiki; and Aftab on both Wiki. I'm not sure if I can find enough time, but I'd try. This week is turning out to be a rather busy one.

শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 05:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Main thread resumed

@CosmicEmperor:, I see what you mean about the signatures. Most people don't have flashy ones. So you can probably just put your name; while others can sign. nafSadh did say 18:08, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

User:CosmicEmperor, I am putting back your votes. If you object, I can remove them. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Seriously? I had to re-add the names of Ramakrishna, Shakib Al Hasan and Allauddin Khan. Someone thought these were insignificant in comparison to Taslima Nasrin, Ziaur Rahman, Rash Behari Bose, Mani Lal Bhaumik, Jawed Karim etc. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

@Aditya Kabir: I walked over the history of this page and saw that User:CosmicEmperor's edits are proper. I don't know, why other people are going to remove the name of nobel laureates names.☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 18:38, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I really don't understand what you are trying to say. :( Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:47, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Evidently, CosmicEmperor removed Shakib from the list. nafSadh did say 18:49, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I am surprised to see Sher-E-Bangla A. K. Fazlul Huq, Mawlana Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani, Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy, Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar, Shaheed Titumir, Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Dr. Muhammad Shahidullah, and Attish Diponkar aren't listed here. They are even listed in the BBC Greatest Bengalis of all time. Happiest persoN (talk) 18:40, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Don't be surprised; and please go ahead and add them. List is incomplete. ~ nafSadh did say 18:44, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Two of your list - Atiśa and Ram Mohan Roy are already here. I am adding the rest of your suggestions. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 18:47, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

@CosmicEmperor: please sign your comments. You are editing here and there, so signbot is not picking those up either. ~ nafSadh did say 05:44, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

I have two more suggestion.

1. We can use {{Agree}} or {{Denied}} template before signing.
2. The listed names here can be rearranged to alphabetic order to avoid any supremacy conflict. Happiest persoN (talk) 07:15, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Agree with Happiest persoN. Shovon (talk) 07:43, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

(1) Agreed with a tweak: let us use:

{{aye}} and

{{nay}} instead; they are simpler and less flashy. ~ nafSadh did say 13:34, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

(2) Alphabetic sorting could be useful to find names. But who is going to do that ginormous task, after all it is a Talk page -- sort order doesn't matter. ~ nafSadh did say 13:48, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

1. Allama Azizul Haque (he is the first to translate "the second most essential book of Islam" into Bengali and he's widely acknowledged as one of the greatest Islamic scholars; he was a great religious leader, obviously more influential than Swami Prabhupada), 2. Pola Uddin, Baroness Uddin (the first Asian to sit in an European Parliament parliament), 3. Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani (as @Happiest persoN stated, he'd be one of the greatest Bengalis of all time), 4. Shefali Chowdhury (alongiside her friend Afshan Azad, another Bangaladeshi, she always appeared at Harry Potter except at one. By many, "Ziaur Rahman" is considered to be the actual Founding Father of Bangladesh. I forgot to add Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy, another legend. All of these that I've comprehended, MUST be added in this article. Shakib al Hasan may be added no more, even though sometime he's regarded as the best allrounders. Sourav Ganguly was a great batsmen, but none so far included that "He is widely considered to be one of the greatest batsmen of all time", it was me to add this portion. To conclude, in my opinion this article should possess more BANGLADESHIS' images rather than EASTERN INDIANS, GIVEN THAT innumerable people from Kolkata do not claim to be BENGALI (although the can speak it fluently). Therefore I need to make some changes. --115ash^→(☏) 08:06, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

I think that is about the worst argument you can possibly give here. If we are going to do this right, we should do it forgetting about nationalities. In case of a tie, I suggest we use the quality of the articles to decide. If those people are as important as they are made out to be, then we should be putting in effort into improving the articles on them first instead of fighting over the collage space. Kautilya3 (talk) 15:38, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

A person who can write such lines is blocked from editing right now. And I think User:115ash's choice of people is also wrong Cosmic Emperor (talk) 17:13, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

LOL. Thanks Kautilya3. Brilliantly put. "If those people are as important as they are made out to be, then we should be putting in effort into improving the articles on them first instead of fighting over the collage space." That should be the guiding principle for our warmhearted friends.

Documented civilization is much older for the Western parts of Bengal. Apart form Dhaka and Pundra, all of Bengal's capitals are in the West - Murshidabad, Gauda, Kolkata. The urban renaissance was largely a Kolkata affair, and international acclaim has gone more to the Western Bengalis. Therefore, I believe more of the representative people may come from West Bengal.

What worries me is the bias of our friends towards modern people. It's post WWII characters for Bangladeshis, and mid century characters for West Bengal editors. Going by this I am ready to accept Bengalis as quite a rootless people that almost didn't exist before the 19th century. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:31, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

It is a little hard to find images for people from past; especially we do not have portrait paintings. Say for example, Atisha -- his full body portrait becomes too small in the collage, and the close-up photo of face from that don't give enough detail either. Compare to photos in File:English mosaic.jpg (English people), there are many portraits from medieval. I was going through the List of Bengalis; not too many people from per-colonial. Also, the language, Bengali, didn't start taking shape before 1400 CE. ~ nafSadh did say 16:51, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Nusrat Honey Bee removed 3 person from the list. I undid that. However that also removed her votes. I did not take time to restore those, not because she is a new editor with only 3 contribs, but because, she is either a possible sock or running a April fool's joke. If she wants, she can take time and restore her votes again (and not delete any names). ~ nafSadh did say 16:36, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
I added a few more candiates, though not endorsing all of these new ones. I am using a spreadsheet to have a better look into candidates. BTW, thanks Aditya Kabir curating; but won't you evaluate candidates and express your opinion? ~ nafSadh did say 18:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Can you have another column for "no image"? There seems to be quite a few, and some are getting votes too. May be we remove Siraj ud Daula from the list. He is not eligible. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 09:48, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll add an column for no images. I think once we added someone in the list, they should be kept for keeping track of poll history. However with a consensus striking them out shall be sufficient. ~ nafSadh did say 12:24, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

@Aditya:, what is the interpretation when you described, 30 votes max +ve & -ve. I think Only +ve votes shall be limited to 30. Though, to discourage mass nays, nay votes can be limited to 15~, thus allowing 45~ votes in total (including aye and nay). ~ nafSadh did say 12:52, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. But I belive, I think the complications are more that way. Here you can have people vote all negative or all positive. Multiple quotas can be devised when there is a clear bias evident, and you need to put a balancing measure to counter the bias. Otherwise it just complicates for no big reason. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:59, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Let's relax the limit to 45 total vote per editor; vote being both aye and nay. This way people have the chance to express their nays, while still being able to chose his/her 30. Or express the rule like, "Please don't aye more that 30 and don't nay more that 15", and it is more like a guideline, cause we can't be so strict. --nafSadh did say 18:49, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Counting policy

Single purpose users: What should be our policy about votes from accounts that are freshly created and almost everything they did is vote/participate in this discussion? We all know, polls attract socks; a lot. ~ nafSadh did say 07:19, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

My two pence:

Send them a sock warning, strike out their votes, and ignore them in the final count.
There must be an eligibility criteria to avoid those socks. You must have at least certain number of edits and a certain time spent on the Wikipedia to vote.

As for the counting policy, I propose that the the straw poll adopts the following policy - 1 added for every eligible aye, and one deducted for every nay. Then discount the names are over the ceiling of a particular category. Try to keep the overall structure as close to the proposal as possible, unless there is a proposal that gets consensus. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 08:58, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

I think the eligibility criteria should be like,

minimum 500 total edits counting all languages of Wikipedia; relaxed if more than 400 edits made in English Wikipedia
at least 100 edits made in English Wikipedia
the account has made at least one other edit in three months period before the poll started
the account is at least ~~three~~ two months old before the before the poll started

All four criteria should be made fore votes to be counted. This might help weed out sock votes and such. ~ nafSadh did say 12:19, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

nafSadh did say I have tweaked your rules a bit. You alone can't decide what is right. You trying to make sure my vote doesn't count. We have to wait till other editors contribute. Let Soham , Kautilya and Titodutta cast their votes. For strange reason Indian editors are not voting. 115ash will come back after block period . Subhash Bose got so less votes. Let the Administrators decide when to reach a consensus and whose votes to be added--Cosmic Emperor (talk) 14:34, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

sorry CosmicEmperor, you can't actually change my comments. I restored my original proposal. And you know I can't, nor can you decide the rules. That should be something coming from consensus. I'm reviewing my proposal and I think your tweaks (min age 1mo & min total edit 200) can be reasonable. nafSadh did say 18:39, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

I have revised my proposal, and this time I actually went to see your contribs. BTW, @CosmicEmperor: I thought you are much older editor and you said you used to edit with another signon. ~ nafSadh did say 19:04, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

User:LoverBoyInGarden was CosmicEmperor's previous account. Even from this account I can see you have made 466 edits to 96 pages over last three months. Doesn't look like a sock or SPA to me. There is no conspiracy going on. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:23, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

The "Indians" are not voting because, without knowing enough about the East Bengal side, we can't exercise a fair judgement. But we are watching and give our best wishes to the Bengalis. Kautilya3 (talk) 04:14, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

But Kautilya3 (talk) you can see that Subhash Bose got less votes than Suchitra Sen as Universal tiger's vote can't be counted as he is new user. If you don't know Bangladeshi icons . You check their Wikipage as I did.Bangaldeshis like Jawed Karim and Irene Khan , Salman Khan were not in this page , I brought them here. Nafsadh and Zayeem inspite of being Bangladeshis are voting without any bias. People like 115ash is the only anti-Indian editor. And I don't want him to cast his votes , even you have considered his argument as worst.i have also voted for Ziaur Rehman. Best thing would be check my choice, zayyem's choice and Nafsadh's choice and then take your own decision to voteCosmic Emperor (talk) 09:02, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Sock alert User:Universal tiger has not responded to his talk page warning, and has made no comment on this talk page. But, he reverted the strike-out I made here. He also managed to maintain the intermediate edits. Can you bundle him together with the previous socks and report? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 10:01, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

I never made an SPI, all these socks got automatically blocked, as they raised flags. I would be on a vacation trip for three days. So won't be able to do much. ~ nafSadh did say 12:19, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

User:AHLM13 is giving only negative votes to everybody zayeem , new entrant is okayUniversal tiger (talk) 11:33, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

What's wrong with me? What do u mean by "negative votes"? User:Universal tiger must be a sockpuppet of somebody. He's vote won't be count. A WP:CHK would be necessary. -- $AHLM13$ talk 17:58, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

WP is not compulsory. people can take a leave and come backCosmic Emperor (talk) 14:15, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nafsadh: Have you noticed that one of the most vocal participants - Cosmic Emperor - doesn't clear the eligibility criteria? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 07:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Aditya Kabir:; we never finalized the eligibility criteria; but no one else opposed my proposal. So yes C.E. fails my first proposal but passes the revised one; I made that revision after his opposition. But hey, I think original proposal is better. Though the criteria was set to sweep away socks, not to get rid of noobs.

nafSadh did say 13:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Counting policy 2

I definitely have to cut down on my votes. 17 votes too many. Zayeem overshot by 16 votes and universal tiger by 15. Damn. That's bad. Nafsadh, BTW, is bang on 40. I probably would follow his idea of striking out. But, what happens to voters who did not strike out? Random elimination of extra votes? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 08:16, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

May be we begin vote discounting with the votes cast for striked out entries – "no image" or "not bengali". BTW, My total vote should be about 36 now. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 09:52, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Can someone strike out the sock votes and ineligible votes and move them to another sub-list after nays?

It is a bit hard (can be done, but would take time) to discount votes from NoImage with the script. .

nafSadh did say 12:14, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Re-factoring them further is one way. I was also thinking or discounting them manually, because those votes are very limited in number. I am putting a sentence in the notes. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:07, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Putting a specific phrase will do, even as comment.

nafSadh did say 15:20, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

User:Universal_tiger is confirmed sock; hence removing his votes. nafSadh did say 00:27, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nafsadh: You probably would want to check the descriptions on the spreadsheet. I have streamlined the descriptions somewhat. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:21, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

@Aditya Kabir:, I'd try to do that, but I'd love to have some help doing that. If you agree I can send you write access.

nafSadh did say 05:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Sure. It's nearvision@gmail.com. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 05:49, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

One idea - if someone has more than the quota of votes then we deduct the votes on ineligible entries (from the top), if it still is more than the quota we deduct nay votes (from the top, every alternate vote, to keep it unbiased). Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:11, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

[added] And, if there are excess votes even after discounting all nay vote, then there will no more area left for randomization. That means we will have to discounting all the votes by that editor. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Bias alert

Looks like most users are biased. At the point, when we got more participation from West Bengal, we had more toppers from India. Now, with more participation from Bangladesh, we've more toppers from Bangladesh/East Bengal. nafSadh did say 05:54, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

This is why i was looking forward to more participation from all sides. May be we need to involve BLP members too. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:22, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Removal of Foreign Bengalis with little or no connection to Bengal

I have noticed that a good number of the foreigners on this list are ethnically Bengali, but have no connection whatsoever to Bengal. The best example I could think of would be Jawed Karim, he was born in Germany and lives in the US. As for his parents, his mother was not Bengali and father was a Bangladeshi-American. What I'd like to say is that although he is a Bengali by fact, he isn't de facto Bengali. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should remove all foreigners from the list. People like Fazlur Rahman Khan and Jhumpa Lahiri both had/have strong connections to Bangladesh and West Bengal and so they should stay there. Others, who are Bengali by blood but aren't actually Bengali in any way should be removed. Rihaz (talk) 09:12, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

I can recognize that line of thinking. I would look for a more representative Bengali, just like you, to vote for. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:21, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Shall we make a list of people and then discuss having them removed? Rihaz (talk) 14:30, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

We are already discussing about them, aren't we? And for the poll, if most editors think them as good representation of Bengalis, they should be in the collage.

nafSadh did say 15:16, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Siraj ud Daula and Vidyapati have already been striked out, as the consensus is against their inclusion as Bengalis. The same can't be said of Karim. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

We are talking about Bengali people and NOT people from Bengal here. So, that line of thinking is irrelevant to say the least! Shovon (talk) 19:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

I think we need to include the diaspora in the quota system of the proposal. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:40, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Shovon, I clearly mentioned that I am not against the inclusion of foreigners (people not from Bengal). All I am saying is that we include foreigners who were truly Bengali. I mean, people who would call themselves Bengali or led Bengali lives or kept tabs with Bengal. People like Jawed Karim are only Bengali due to their roots, they never lived like Bengalis. Rihaz (talk) 04:51, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

People have proposed names of notably famous people who have some connection with Bengalis. Now, we have to evaluate if they really represent. I've withdrawn my vote for Jawed Karim based on the fact that, his mother is German and he was not brought up as Bengali. I decided on following some rationale: (1) should have close connection to Bengali culture, (2) avoiding modern politicians, (3) shall not have worked for one specific sub-group (thus either refrained from voting or nayed all modern religious leaders). I also didn't find enough space for ayeing any actor-actresses.

Anyway, everyone should build some rationale and check and recheck their votes for eliminating all bias.

nafSadh did say 05:36, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

On the other hand my votes pushed the POV that more women and more spiritually enlightened people should represent us. Then again, looking at the votes, I realize that the quota system will filter stuff out anyways. Say for example:

Statesman: Sheikh Mujib and Pranab Mukherji
Revolutionary leader: Subhash Bose
Author: Rabindranath and Jhumpa Lahiri
Musician: Ravi Shankar
Religious leader: Atisa and Chaitanya

This is what vote is coming up with. See? Biases automatically vanish. I say, we can close this in due time without any disaster. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:37, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, if the voting manages to strike out people like Jawed, I guess I have nothing more to say or do. Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • What I do)} 16:54, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

LOL. No. He is still in the running. With only one candidate running with entrepreneur's ticket he may be able to trump over his loose ties with Bengali culture or language. The same probably isn't true for Arundhati Roy. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:59, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, in that case let's invite whoever is rooting for him to join this discussion and give their opinions. I'm sure we can reach common ground. Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • What I do)} 17:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Please, go ahead. And, if possible, also bundle Arundhati in the discussion. It is about the same issue - hardly Bengali. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I invited a few people and will invite a few more later on. On a sidenote, didn't you, yourself, vote for Arundhati? Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • What I do)} 17:21, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Those who have no picture , those who got zero votes , those who got one vote , those who got two to three votes even after being present in the list from the beginning , those who got one vote/two votes/three votes but more than five negative votes ::::::::::remove them .Bengali origin is enough , whether born and brought up in Bengal ::not necessaryC E (talk) 17:22, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Being in this list is not harmful. Okay? Do not remove any name. It interrupts with the tabulation. If someone got a low vote then that someone is not going to get chosen anyways.

@Rihazrihazrihaz: Yes, I did. She makes an awesome poster girl for Bengali people. But, if we decide her connections to be too flimsy then I can always withdraw. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:30, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Aditya Kabir: As you suggest not removing people from the list, I would request you to get your "criteria" straight. You seem to be both for and against people. I will be using my remaining votes to vote against all those who I feel aren't purely Bengali.

Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • What I do)} 17:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I'd always like to pretend Jawed Karim and Arundhati Roy are Bengali. I retracted my vote based on their flimsy connections. But, c'mon guys aren't they cool and won't it be cool if we could really say they are truly very Bengali?

nafSadh did say 18:03, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

They are cool, but it won't be cool to call them Bengali. The reason^{(my personal opinion)} is, as you said, "flimsy connections". It would kinda look like we are trying to promote the ethnicity by adding people who don't exactly belong there^{(again, just my opinion)}.

Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • Stuff I do)} 18:38, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Rihazrihazrihaz: We are not removing names, but we are striking them out with a note. Already two entries were striked out - Siraj ud Daula and Vidyapati. I have half a mind to strike Roy & Karim company as well. But, they have on every generic list of Bengalis there is on Wikipedia, and have been that way for a while. Discounting them as Bengalis may require quite some consensus. The current consensus seems to be for including them. BTW, Baroness Uddin and Akram Khan has much closer ties. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:55, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

First of all, শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২! Back to the discussion, striking names out is actually what I meant by removal, but I guess the word "removal" was worthy of causing confusion. Hold on, I'll make a table below to allow more organized discussing.

Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • Stuff I do)} 05:24, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

শুভ নববর্ষ . But we're in the end of polling, so I'd rather not fork another polling thread. nafSadh did say 05:30, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@Nafsadh: I get your point, let's just make this quick.

Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • Stuff I do)} 05:45, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I will be going off Wikipedia for a while, won't be around till the end of the polling. I will leave the fate of this specific discussion to all of you. You may even put an end to it if you feel it is unnecessary this late into the poll.

Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • Stuff I do)} 05:54, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

List of people to strike out

Here goes a list of people who we feel should be striked out (not removed) from the list. If you support him/her being striked out, please place your signature (without time stamp) under the "strike out" column and if not, then do so in the other column. Feel free to add more names. If you have anything to say or would like to discuss anything, do so under the table. Thanks

Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • Stuff I do)} 05:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Name	Strike Out	Don't Strike out
Jawed Karim	Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • Stuff I do)}	Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} nafSadh did say Amitrochates
Arundhati Roy	Rihaz ^{(Talk to me • Stuff I do)} Amitrochates	Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} nafSadh did say

Striking out criteria should be as simple as consensus building. If some name receive a lot of nays and zero or relatively very few (~10%) aye, there is a consensus striking out.

শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 13:22, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

And, whatever the number of votes it closes with closure of the bigger ballot. Whatever the outcome, we go with it. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 13:41, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Going by Arundhati Roy's magnum opus, she would fit better in Malayali people. Amitrochates (talk) 17:12, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

It seems to me, for most people, mother defines which culture they belong to.

শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 17:58, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

That is certainly true for Arundhati Roy. On reading The God of Small Things, a work widely considered to be semi–authobiographical, it becomes fairly obvious that Bengali culture and people had very little impact on her. It is to be expected perhaps because her parents got divorced when she was two and she spent most of her childhood in Kerala. The same argument can also be made about Jawed Karim, his website for instance has no pics on Bengal.[4] However, many news sources continue to label him as Bangladeshi–American or Bangladeshi–German. In absence of compelling evidence which shows he does not identify with Bengali culture, it's better to let !votes decide his fate. Amitrochates (talk) 20:22, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

The results

Final standings

Now that the stipulated time is over we can start releasing the numbers. The top 31 names (the last 3 were tied) are:

Top 31
	Bengal/East Bengal/Bangladesh	West Bengal/India	UK/US
Men: Military-Political	Sheikh Mujibur Rahman Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani A. K. Fazlul Huq	Subhas Chandra Bose
Men: Art-entertainment	Kazi Nazrul Islam Zainul Abedin Jasimuddin Humayun Ahmed	Rabindranath Tagore Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay Ravi Shankar Satyajit Ray Abanindranath Tagore
Men: Social-religious	Muhammad Yunus Fazle Hasan Abed Lalon Atisha	Ram Mohan Roy Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar	Salman Khan
Men: Science-scholarship	Fazlur Rahman Khan Muhammad Shahidullah	Amartya Sen Jagadish Chandra Bose Meghnad Saha Satyendra Nath Bose
Men: other	Brojen Das Shakib Al Hasan		Jawed Karim
Women	Irene Khan Roquia Sakhawat Hussain

Quota for a balanced representation of time and gender

Women

The first quota I would like to invoke is that of women. Half the people can't represent less than a quarter. That would be 8 women. I can agree to 7. Less than that would be one-in-five. Unacceptable. Posting the count shorrtly. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 19:24, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

There is sizable support for only four females, while one (Arundhaty Roy) does not qualify much as a Bengali. We probably would need to rerun a poll for females with a target for reaching to a consensus of 7-9 females. শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 19:36, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Name	Yes	No	Count	Claim to fame	Contemporary?	Location
Irene Khan	14	1	13	Reformer	Y	BD
Roquia Sakhawat Hussain	6	0	6	Reformer	N	EB
Pola Uddin, Baroness Uddin	4	0	4	Baroness	Y	UK
Arundhati Roy	6	2	4	Author	Y	IN
Suchitra Sen	5	3	2	Film star	N	WB
Dola Banerjee	1	0	1	Athlete	Y	WB
Konnie Huq	1	0	1	TV star	Y	UK
Pritilata Waddedar	1	0	1	Revolutionary leader	N	EB
Rani Mukherjee	1	0	1	Film star	Y	IN
Runa Laila	2	1	1	Singer	Y	BD
Sharmila Tagore	2	1	1	Film star	N	IN
Jhumpa Lahiri	4	3	1	Author	Y	US
Anandamayi Ma	4	4	0	Spiritual leader	N	EB

On this one I request a policy of selecting on the basis of yes votes. That should get all women with 4 or more yes votes into the collage – Irene, Roquia, Arundhati, Suchitra, Pola, Jhumpa, and Anandamayi. Exactly 7 women. Makes a representation. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 19:49, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Anandamayi received overwhelming nays and for Arundhati, we can't strongly claim her as Bengali. শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 20:22, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

We can replace them with the next in line - Runa and Sharmila. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 20:30, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Agree শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 20:47, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

comment Based on the net votes received 1 woman, Irene Khan obtained a clear mandate with another, Roquia Sakhawat Hussain receiving 6 net votes (all ayes). If, as appears to be suggested above, more then these are being considered for inclusion in the collage, can the editors please tell us who they suggest will miss out, noting that the possible 'losers' received more votes? thanks.Coolabahapple (talk) 02:10, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

That makes it – Irene, Roquia, Runa, Suchitra, Pola, Jhumpa, and Sharmila. Now we need 5 boys to move over and make space for the girls. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Following humble gentlemen moved out to make space for the ladies:

Zainul Abedin ✓ 8 ✗0
Jasimuddin ✓10 ✗2
A. K. Fazlul Huq ✓10 ✗2
Humayun Ahmed ✓11 ✗3
Shakib Al Hasan ✓12 ✗5
Abanindranath Tagore ✓6 ✗0
Muhammad Shahidullah ✓6 ✗0

—শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 04:10, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Antiquity

The second quota I want to invoke is that of antiquity. We have just 3 valid entries before Bengal Renaissance:

Aisha (8:0:8)
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (7:4:3)
Raja Ganesha (2:5:-3)

I don't think we can throw away any of them. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 20:03, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

I'd like to see all three of them; but Raja Genesha received overwhelmingly more nays than two ayes (one of which is mine). So, there is strong consensus for not including him.

For Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, we can say there is enough consensus to add. শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 20:25, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay. If there is no objection, I will take this as consensus. Mahaprabhu and Atisha in. Ganesha out. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 20:32, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay. We can post a final thirty list and ask an non-involved admin to close. শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 20:42, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Closure

Consensus to ratify collage. Alsee (talk) 23:23, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

We started this discussion to chose 30 people to go in the top collage. We had 31 toppers after the polling ended: we counted using Straw poll and 29-31st positions tied. We found some under representations:

We have only one from antiquity: Atisha
We have none from medieval era. We had six candidates from this period: Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, Shashanka, Siraj ud-Daulah, Alaol, Gopala I, Raja Ganesha. Amongst these six, three didn't have a photo and Siraj ud Daulah is decided to be not Bengali. Poll standing for remaining two is:
- Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ✓7 ✗ 4 = 3
- Raja Ganesha ✓2 ✗5 = -3
Hence, Chaitanya Mahaprabhu can be chosen to represent this era.
We have only 2 women in top 31, which is gross under-representation. Talk:Bengali_people#Women lists the final standings for women. Only Irene Khan and Begum Rokeya received enough consensus. Following candidates got some support:
1. Suchitra Sen ✓5 ✗3 = 2
2. Pola Uddin, Baroness Uddin ✓4 ✗0 = 4
3. Jhumpa Lahiri ✓4 ✗3 =1
4. Runa Laila ✓2 ✗1 = 1
5. Sharmila Tagore ✓2 ✗1 = 1
We can add them in the top thirty.

List

So, the final list of top 30 people to go to the collage:

Thirty Bengali people in collage
#	Name	Profession	Era	Region	Y	N	straw	DOB	WikiMedia
1	Amartya Sen	Nobel laureate/Scholar	Contemporary	West Bengal	18	1	17	1933
2	Rabindranath Tagore	Nobel laureate/Author	Renaissance	Bengal	16	0	16	1861
3	Muhammad Yunus	Nobel laureate/Reformer	Modern	Bangladesh	15	0	15	1940
4	Jagadish Chandra Bose	Scientist	Renaissance	Bengal	15	1	14	1858
5	Kazi Nazrul Islam	Author	Modern	Bangladesh	13	0	13	1899
6	Irene Khan	Reformer	Contemporary	Bangladesh	14	1	13	1956
7	Sheikh Mujibur Rahman	Statesman	Modern	Bangladesh	14	1	13	1920
8	Ram Mohan Roy	Reformer/Religious leader	Renaissance	West Bengal	14	1	13	1772	File:Raja Ram Mohan Roy.jpg
9	Salman Khan	Educator	Contemporary	US	12	0	12	1976
10	Meghnad Saha	Scientist	Modern	West Bengal	12	0	12	1893
11	Ravi Shankar	Musician	Modern	West Bengal	11	0	11	1920
12	Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay	Author	Renaissance	West Bengal	11	0	11	1838
13	Satyajit Ray	Film maker	Modern	West Bengal	12	1	11	1921
14	Subhas Chandra Bose	Revolutionary leader	Modern	West Bengal	12	1	11	1897	,
15	Fazle Hasan Abed	Reformer	Contemporary	Bangladesh	10	0	10	1936
16	~~Fazlur Rahman Khan~~ Zainul Abedin	Painter/Artist	Modern	Bangladesh	8	0	8	1914
17	Lalon	Spiritual leader	Renaissance	East Bengal	11	1	10	1774	,
18	Satyendra Nath Bose	Scientist	Modern	East Bengal	12	2	10	1894
19	Jawed Karim	Entrepreneur	Contemporary	US	9	0	9	1979
20	Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar	Author/Reformer	Renaissance	West Bengal	10	1	9	1820	File:Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar photo.jpg
21	~~Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani~~ A. K. Fazlul Huq	Policitcal leader	Modern	Bangladesh	10	2	8	1873
22	Atisha	Spiritual leader	Ancient	East Bengal	8	0	8	1000
23	Brojen Das	Athelete	Modern	Bangladesh	8	0	8	1927
24	Begum Rokeya	Reformer	Modern	East Bengal	6	0	6	1880
25	Pola Uddin, Baroness Uddin	Baroness	Contemporary	UK	4	0	4	1959
26	Chaitanya Mahaprabhu	Spiritual leader	Medieval	Bengal	7	4	3	1486
27	~~Suchitra Sen~~ Rani Mukherji	Film star	Modern	West Bengal	1	0	1	1978
28	Runa Laila	Singer	Contemporary	Bangladesh	2	1	1	1950?	File:Runa Laila.jpg
29	Sharmila Tagore	Film star	Modern	West Bengal	2	1	1	1944
30	Jhumpa Lahiri	Author	Modern	US	4	3	1	1967

Update Due to unavailability of commons compliant images, following faces were replaced:

Maulana Bhasani ⟨9⟩ ✓12 ✗3 with A. K. Fazlul Huq ⟨8⟩ ✓10 ✗2
Fazlur Rahman Khan ⟨10⟩ ✓10 ✗0 with Zainul Abedin ⟨8⟩ ✓8 ✗0
Suchitra Sen with Rani Mukherji

Both replacements form #1 and #2 were candidates co-stood after straw poll at 22-27 with 8 straw polls, and it works out well as both are somewhat from same profession. However, #3 Sen was replaced with next available common compliant face, Mukherji from list of women in the poll. --nafSadh did say 23:34, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

The top 30 distributed-
	Bengal/East Bengal/Bangladesh	West Bengal/India	UK/US	TOTAL
Military-political	Sheikh Mujibur Rahman ♥ Abdul Hamid Khan Bhashani ♥	Subhas Chandra Bose ♥		3
Art-entertainment	Kazi Nazrul Islam ♥ Runa Laila ♥	Rabindranath Tagore ♥ Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay ♥ Ravi Shankar ♥ Satyajit Ray ♥ Suchitra Sen ♥ Sharmila Tagore ♥ Jhumpa Lahiri ♥		9
Social-religious	Muhammad Yunus ♥ Fazle Hasan Abed ♥ Lalon ♥ Atisha ♥ Irene Khan ♥ Roquia Sakhawat Hussain	Ram Mohan Roy ♥ Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar ♥ Chaitanya Mahaprabhu ♥	Salman Khan ♥	10
Science-scholarship	Fazlur Rahman Khan ♥	Amartya Sen ♥ Jagadish Chandra Bose ♥ Meghnad Saha ♥ Satyendra Nath Bose ♥		5
Other	Brojen Das ♥		Jawed Karim ♥ Pola Uddin, Baroness Uddin ♥	3
TOTAL	12	15	3	30

Ratification

Polling discussion is in sections above and a overview of survey data is in a spreadsheet. শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 03:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Ping: @115ash:, @Aditya Kabir:, @Aftabuzzaman:, @AHLM13:, @Amitrochates:, @Anand2202:, @Anoopkn:, @Arr4: @AsceticRose:, @Calypsomusic:, @Coolabahapple:, @CosmicEmperor:, @Devx101:, @Happiest persoN:, @Kmzayeem:, @Moony22:, @Nafsadh:, @NahidSultan:, @Rihazrihazrihaz:, @Rossi101:, @Royroydeb:, @Samudrakula:, @Sharif uddin:, @Shovon76:, @Tanweer Morshed:, @Vanamonde93:, @Vignesh Mani M:, @Vyom25:, @संजीव कुमार:. — শুভ নববর্ষ ১৪২২^{Bengali new year} | nafSadh did say 03:55, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Let's ratify the list: **** Add {{agree}} ~~~~ to ratify, after this line. ****

Agree Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 04:02, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree nafSadh did say 04:16, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree But the list should be ranked according to History (date of birth).Atisha comes first .CosmicEmperor (talk) 04:28, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, that is imperative. I'd venture in creating the collage photo this weekend. nafSadh did say 05:33, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree Amitrochates (talk) 07:02, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree Arr4 (talk) 06:59, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree ☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 19:38, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree Shovon (talk) 08:45, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree Vignesh Mani M (talk) 20:20, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree Coolabahapple (talk) 23:44, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree Samudrakula (talk) 13:38, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Agree --Vyom25 (talk) 12:25, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Disagreement

**** Add {{disagree}} ~~~~ to express your concerns, after this line. ****

Disagree LOL! What is this? It's funny to put those images. There were less than thirty wikipedians to vote and one week was not enough. I can't understand why Salman Khan and Irene Khan obtained so many votes. They don't deserve to be labelled in this article. -- $AHLM13$ talk 10:26, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes. But the process needs to end. This can not remain open to you guys who are ready to WP:WAR for ever. And WP:CONSENSUS does not mean that everyone is happy. ALL of us can't have our favorites in there and our objections out of the list. May be we can have a subpage to suggest our own versions of the collage, then we ALL can have our demand fulfilled. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:20, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Disagree Although this is a list of BENGALI PEOPLE, and not GREATEST BENGALIS OF ALL TIME, I still don't like it. It's a shame that people like Ziaur Rahman, Azizul Haque, Muhammad Abdul Bari and Sourav Ganguly have not gained enough votes. Strange that Swami Vivekananda and Rani Mukherjee won't be included here, as they can be labelled even at the Indian one. As soon as the last edit war finished, vandals and sockpuppets began to disturb most of us. Nevertheless, users like NafSadh and Aditya Kabir have put a lot of effort on this issue, and I appreciate this and thank to them. But I believe that this solution is better. We can remove all pictures here and add to Bengali Muslims and Bengali Hindus. --115ash^→(☏) 10:03, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I was just wondering:

What happens to Ram Mohan Roy, Rabindranath Tagore, Lalon and Atisha? I don't think they would agree to be on either list.
How do you disagree to ratify something? Isn't it a bit oxymoronic?

Just curious. And, I don't think I like the list, or anybody did, because no one would have made this list. The disagreement you have that this and that person should have been there is the exact reason we had this poll. To select not my choice, but our choice. Collective collaboration. Perhaps that's not a difficult idea to grasp with. As I see, looking at the distribution, the collective chose wisely, and much without a collective bias. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:58, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Severely, the current collage would be perfect. Otherwise, we go with no images then. --115ash^→(☏) 09:40, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Noted. And completely disagreed. You need to take such a radical decision to a bigger forum like the village pump. Not here. And, NO ONE but you and your team mates agree to the current collage. One request, please do not continue with the edit warring if and when we have a consensus. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 11:43, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Why are you still talking about that Edit warring? It's thousands time better if this article is deleted. --115ash^→(☏) 12:56, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

If I am not entirely wrong, the current collage carries your choice, and you have warred enough to keep it that way. Now, you are saying, if that collage is not kept, the article better be deleted. Isn't this "my way or highway" a bit extreme of a proposal? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

P.S. I am talking about edit wars because:

You and your edit warring were the primary reasons for this poll.
You have already been engaged in serious edit wars over the collage, including a 3RR.
You have done the same type of edit war over a similar subject - Asian American collage. You refused to listen to every other editor in that article too.
I have found a lot of edit war warnings, and a few other unconstructive edit warnings in your talk page - this, this, this, this, this, this, and this. That's a lot of edit warring in 9 months.

I have a request to make to you - please don't start warring again after we have consensus. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Disagree It is very strange that the list of famous Bengalis does not include Vivekananda. That is like making a list of Gujarati people without including Gandhi. There are other omissions too, but this one is glaringly obvious. Calypsomusic (talk) 12:07, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

May be Bengal has more than one of Bapu's stature - Chaitanya, Atisha, Ram Mohan, Lalon. None was a politician like Bapu though. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 17:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Vivekananda did not get enough support. And your analogy is incorrect. If anything. Rabindranath is most essential member of such list, not really Vivekananda. So, you are denying to ratify, on the basis that one of your dream guy did not make it? None of the people ratified have all their people in. nafSadh did say 17:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Comments

Comment: I can't completely agree with these names, Sher-e-Bangla A. K. Fazlul Huq must be included in the collage as he had very important role in both Bengal. He had an outstanding political career and did a lot for the people of Bengal. He was rated #4 Greatest Bengalis of All time. That BBC survey had been running for 1 year (2003-2004) and votes were given by millions. I am very surprised how his name can be removed from the list. Dr. Muhammad Shahidullah was one of the greatest linguist Bengalis ever had. He had also an important role in Bengali Language Movement. His dialogue “আমরা হিন্দু বা মুসলমান যেমন সত্য, তার চেয়ে বেশি সত্য আমরা বাঙ্গালি” inspired all walks of Bengalis to be united for the right of Bengali Language. I would suggest to reduce two women's name and add their name. They are more notable than some of the women. Happiest persoN (talk) 08:42, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- You are upset that Sher-e-Bangla and Dr. M. Shahidullah did not make it to top 23, though made it to top 31. Me too. I am also upset that Shakib, Syed Mujtaba and Humayun Ahmed are not there. Also, there are more people from West than East Bengal. But, we have to understand that this is a photo to represent totality of the Bengali ethnicity; not a mere run for most notables. Women are more than half of the population and they deserve more representation than just 2. nafSadh did say 14:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
  - "But, we have to understand that this is a photo to represent totality of the Bengali ethnicity; not a mere run for most notables. Women are more than half of the population and they deserve more representation than just 2." - if you agree with this statement and the collage is not to be made up of pictures of the most notables but rather a representation then where are the pictures of Bengali children 25%(see World population), of the population? or the physically disabled 10%(see Disability) of the population? Coolabahapple (talk) 16:24, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
    - There are 7 women's name in the list and 5 names wouldn't so bad i think. You are talking about Bengali ethnicity and these duo are born Bengalis (জাত বাঙালি). On the other hand, Sharmila Tagore is a half Bengali, her parents are Assamese and Bengali. In the voting race, she got only 2 votes in favor of her and 1 against her where Mr. Huq got 10 ayes and 2 nays. and Muhammad Shahidullah got 6ayes and 0 nays. Female quota for a collage is little offensive. Why should we put their name if they not eligible enough (by votes)? Happiest persoN (talk) 04:51, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Comment: Contrary to the discussed quota system above which talked of 2 artists there are now no artists even though Abanindranath Tagore (Author/Arist, Modern, West Bengal) receive 6 ayes and zero nays, a net of 6 - " the first major exponent of swadeshi values in Indian art, thereby founding the influential Bengal school of art, which led to the development of modern Indian painting He was also a noted writer, particularly for children. Popularly known as 'Aban Thakur', his books ... are landmarks in Bengali language children's literature." - from his wikiarticle (also a children's author); while Zainul Abedin (Artist, Modern, Bangladesh) received 8 ayes and zero nays, a net of 8 - unfortunately most of his article has no citations. While the proposed quota had 2 to 4 athletes there is now just one athelete though Saurav Ganguly (Athlete, Contemporary, West Bengal) received 10 ayes and 4 nayes or a net of 6 votes - " He is widely considered to be one of the greatest batsmen of all time. he is the 5th highest run scorer in One Day Internationals (ODIs) and was the 3rd person in history to cross the 10,000 run landmark, after Sachin Tendulkar and Inzamam Ul Haq. In 2002, the Wisden Cricketers' Almanack ranked him the sixth greatest ODI batsman of all time, next to Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Dean Jones and Michael Bevan." - from his wikiarticle. The only collector of folklore in the top 30 Jasimuddin, (Author, Bangladesh) received 10 ayes and 2 nays, a net of 8 - "a Muslim Bengali poet, songwriter, prose writer, folklore collector and radio personality. He is commonly known in Bangladesh as Polli Kobi (The Rural Poet), for his faithful rendition of Bengali folklore in his works." - from his wikiarticle. While the hindu Swami Vivekananda (Spiritual leader, Renaissance, West Bengal) received 8 ayes and 2 nays a net of 6 - "He was a key figure in the introduction of the Indian philosophies of Vedanta and Yoga to the Western world and is credited with raising interfaith awareness, bringing Hinduism to the status of a major world religion during the late 19th century." - from his wikiarticle. Sorry, i know that we should be npov but these people are brilliant. Of course, if it is decided that the collage should be more representative and not notables (please see my comment above) then who else are to be left off? Coolabahapple (talk) 17:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

I am not saying notability won't matter. I'm saying women are under-represented, while they are still notable. It is hard to justify that these ladies are way more important than those guys who are left out. So the question is, are we willing to see some female representation? Remember that, there are very few female Wikipedians here and I'm afraid there was no participation from any female editors here, which I'm afraid may have induced gender bias in the polling. And just consider, most other ethnicity, with even much richer history, has 24 people in the collage. We are having 30, that is 6 more and let us use that place for ladies. Can we? Shall we? I am a boy, and I like girls :P — nafSadh did say 18:51, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes. A lot of great Bengalis are not there in the selection for collage. Because there can be only 30 images in the collage, and there are more than 30 great Bengalis. Some did not have free images to use. Some did not get nominated here, for the vote. Some did not get enough votes. Some had a lot of voters objecting. Some did not get enough points to make it to the quota. It is all unfair. But, total fairness is the work of the creator, and not a poor encyclopedia that can not manage more than 30 images in a collage. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 03:41, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay, so the artists miss out to the singers and filmstars, just like in real life, funny about atheletes/cricketers though,lol

Coolabahapple (talk) 17:47, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

ps. i did not receive the "ping" about this but rather this page is on my watchlist so not sure if other "pingees" know of this discussionCoolabahapple (talk) 17:47, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Can you help us by posing on their talk pages? I think there is some settings about notifications for pings (a.k.a. mention you in some place). There is a notification in the top right beside you username in Wikipedia, where you were supposed to see the ping. --nafSadh did say 17:55, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, i have left a message on all the "pingees" talk page except those that have agreed and that have commented. Regarding the ping, thanks, yes i know there is a "your notifications" on top right beside user name (i ~~regularly~~ occasionly receive "thanks" there:))Coolabahapple (talk) 19:34, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that :D. I'm not sure why this did happen. Someone should report a bug. I think WikiMedia development team has a feedback system. –nafSadh did say 21:55, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

I was re-reading Coolapple's issues, and couldn't help posting a bit of my own mind. While looking at the distribution of the 30 entries, I feel good. But, when I go closer I want to complain – why is there no athlete here? Where are Saurabh, Shakib, Gobar and Dola? Where are the shooters, grand masters and Wasfia, the woman climber of seven summit? Why is there no artist here? Aban, Zainul, Nandalal - where are they? Where are Ramkinkar and Sultan, Novera and Muzharul Islam? And, where are Ramakrishna or his disciple Vivekananda, or Aurobindo? Where are the kings? Or Allauddin Khan, who issued a galaxy of musicians – Ali Akbar, Ravi Shankar, Allarakha, Pannalal – while creating a gharana? For that matter where are Ali Akbar and Pannalal?

I miss Rani Bhabani, the most successful woman revolutionary, and Kedar Rai, the biggest of Bengali bhuyans among baro bhuyans, Jasimuddin and Surya Sen, Khaled Musharraf, the most successful guerilla commander, and Tomy Miah, the king of cooks, the inventor of the thumb print, Kashidash, Uttamkumar, Bidhan Roy, PC Sorcar, and Kishor Kumar? 30 is never enough.

We still have 7 from contemporary times, 15 from modern times, 6 from Bengal renaissance, and 2 from the past. Not ideal, but not bad. The regional distribution is also good. WB: 15 (including 2 marked as Indian, and 1 marked as Bengal), EB: 12 (including 1 from Bengal), diaspora 3 (1 UK/2 US). It is amusing to see that the UK entry is a baroness and the US entries are web entrepreneurs. What is particularly encouraging is the low number of political leaders – 1 statesman, 1 political leader, 1 revolutionary leader. Nice. It is also good that 3 scientists are in, all three with amazing credentials. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:23, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Nice commentary. I missed a lot of people too. BTW, this long discussion has given us enough meat to enrich notable Bengalis section. Right now, that section is crammed list of many people. I am working on a collage to upload. nafSadh did say 06:51, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

[comment removed per WP:TPO]

Thanks for the commentary and I appreciate it. But I DO NOT LIKE ANYONE USING MY REAL NAME IN WIKIPEDIA TALK PAGES. It is a norm to address Wikipedians by their usernames. I reveal my real name, only because I prefer to avoid anonymity; but that does not mean people should use my real name in talk pages. nafSadh did say 13:38, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Comment - I do think Happiest Person and Coolabahapple have raised some valid points. Besides, if you cut out the persons selected in the poll, it really discards the very reason behind the poll and would make room for future grudges on this issue. Each of us has missed some of their preferred persons; the best way to deal with it is to strictly go with the original results of the poll. The gender bias, evident in the original list of 31 persons, is really unfortunate, but I don't think we need to remove the selected persons to make room for more women. Perhaps, we could add five more women to the original list of 31 persons which would make it a collage of 36 persons. Zayeem ^(talk) 05:24, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

The point that I see in both arguments is that certain people are missing. Is there any other point? We have been discussing quotas from day one. In fact we had a quota system proposed before we had a poll. We had a discussion on it. And NONE of the people, now complaining against a quota system, had any complaints back then.

The sad thing is - if we create an athelet quota and get Saurabh in there, everyone will be happy. But, if we create a women's quota, most men are upset. Why is that? Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 07:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Probably because most of them are not man enough. — nafSadh did say 13:26, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Does anyone know how to request a topic ban? Some extreme POV-pushers might need it soon. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 16:12, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Never did. But, WP:TBAN can be imposed via either WP:ARB/R or WP:CBAN. I think, there could be meat or sock involved. nafSadh did say 17:00, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Looks like the whole thing is falling apart again and again for one single user. nafSadh did say 17:04, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

The process need not to fall apart. Since we have enough votes to ratify the list already, let's just put a countdown clock to the ratification process, and close this by end this week. If disruptive edits continue, then there is topic ban. Edit war is enough ground for a topic ban. Keep and eye on the code-names. Both of them. I think I warned about them quite some time back. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 02:46, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

The Collage. I have created a collage Image:Bengali people.jpg, and added it to the article. If the list changes before closure, we can always update the image. – nafSadh did say 00:46, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

One of the lousiest collage. --115ash^→(☏) 13:15, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes. It was not made by you. Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:50, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Comment, collage looks good, although why are the ladies mainly down in bottom left corner, would it be better for them to be scattered throughout, or are the pictures in the order they appear for a reason? Coolabahapple (talk) 15:43, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I think it was done chronologically, by birth date.

Aditya^{(talk • contribs)} 15:50, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Most collages I've seen in chronological in order of birth (or something similar). When I instigated the poll, I thought there would enough women and scattered throughout the history. But only in the end while making the collage, it became apparent that they are all from the recent era. It is partly because Bengali women had been underprivileged and still are. You can see, it in this very poll. nafSadh did say 18:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, now I just need to ratify

Coolabahapple (talk) 23:40, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

		The Teamwork Barnstar
		well done for everyone involved in the making of the collage, please feel free to copy this to your talk page Coolabahapple (talk) 07:30, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.