Talk:Benedict Arnold (governor)

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This 'n that[edit]

I've added a lot of material to this article over the past week. I would like to add an info box and a photo of the grave of Gov. Arnold.Sarnold17 (talk) 01:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Look through [1] here for usable images mark nutley (talk) 09:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; looks like all of these photos relate to Gen. Benedict Arnold and not the governor.Sarnold17 (talk) 01:54, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Benedict Arnold (governor)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Magic♪piano 14:44, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be reviewing, stay tuned. Magic♪piano 14:44, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great! No hurry; I'll be out of pocket till the end of the month, but will be ready to do some work in August. Thanks very much for fixing the image on the Royal Charter of 1663. I just couldn't figure out how to make it work correctly.Sarnold17 (talk) 16:22, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Nicely done; only a few relatively minor points.

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There are a few minor issues of continuity and prose:

make explicit that the Narragansetts and/or Mohegans are the "local Indians", and link the language(s) he learned

I've added references to the Narragansett and Mohegan languages, which are the two known groups that he interpreted for. He may have known other languages, but I've seen no references, and the two above languages are closely related, and mutually understood, from what I've read.

"its settlers were largely educated" --> "most of its settlers were educated" or "reasonably well-educated" (I don't know what it means to "largely educate" someone, which is probably not what you meant.)

rewritten

elaborate on the "sundry obstructions" mentioned in the 1660 letter, or removed the mention (this is presumably due to land or governance claims from either MA or CT?)

I've mentioned that both the Mass. Bay and Connecticut colonies had claims to the Narragansett country. A lot of detail could be added here, but it would likely detract from the focus of the article.

who all is claiming jurisdiction over Narragansett country in 1664? Did the king's commissioners decide anything? In whose favor? (It is suggested by the following paragraph that if matters appeared to be resolved, they were actually not, but the connection between the commissioners' activities and the recurring CT encroachment needs to be made.)

I found a reference in Arnold (1859) that the big issue in 1664 was claims by CT (and civil unrest) in Westerly (later RI) and claims made by CT in Wickford (later RI) which actually sits on the Narragansett Bay. The Wickford residents apparently wanted to be put under CT jurisdiction, and were, until Rhode Island eventually won the jurisdictional dispute. In fact, Rhode Island ended up getting the nod in every territorial dispute with the Conn. Colony, Mass. Bay Colony and Plymouth (later Mass.) Colony. This was truly amazing, considering the number of enemies that RI had, particularly Lord Bellomont and Joseph Dudley, who both sought to have RI's charter revoked.

Not to mention the impossibly long fight over RI borders... Magic♪piano 14:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not a requirement, just a recommendation:

bibliographic entries that don't have ISBNs (i.e. older works) ought to have OCLC numbers (available through worldcat.org -- "find in a library" on Google Books often works)

I had been reluctant to do this because it meant opening another account with user name and password. However, I recently had a wonderful experience getting some books via inter-library loan using oclc. So, I've now opened an "account" and have found oclc numbers for all of the older texts without isbn's.

You don't need an account to use worldcat (I don't have one), unless you're using it to remember things for you. Magic♪piano 14:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think this addresses the above issues, but if further elaboration is needed, let me know, and thanks for taking the time to review the article!Sarnold17 (talk) 20:03, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll put it on hold, assuming you get to it in early August. Magic♪piano 14:20, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

see above commentsSarnold17 (talk) 20:03, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, I'll pass it now. Well done! Magic♪piano 14:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Colony[edit]

Was the colony eastablished in 1663. Was is not still plantations by the Parliament charter? Diogenes99 (talk) 23:02, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Commas after MDY dates[edit]

@Dilidor: MOS:DATES says " A comma follows the year unless other punctuation obviates it: The weather on March 12, 2005, was clear and warm." Please put 'em back. . Chris the speller ^yack 15:39, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chris the speller: The MOS is wrong. That is a British convention, not an American one—and the article uses American English. Nevertheless, this is such an absurdly irrelevant issue that you may feel free to revert. But I won't. —Dilidor (talk) 15:44, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The MOS reflects the consensus of WP editors. Fifty million WP editors can't be wrong. Chris the speller ^yack

And yet, somehow, they are. —Dilidor (talk) 16:55, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]