Talk:Battle of the Dance

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DYK nomination[edit]

And for my comments on this nomination, together with Jimbo's response, see User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 117#Did you know.... AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:53, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know...

...that an article like Battle of the Dance can get featured as a DYK? Why the heck are we using articles like this as a main-page showcased item? The lede doesn't tell us where the theater is, the infobox doesn't tell us what it is (though it usefully provides us with a defunct URL to what is self-evidently a dead concern), and the remainder of the article seems to have been thrown together from cuttings from a couple of local newspapers. Are we that desperate for main-page fillers that we resort to articles on subjects so 'notable' that nobody that wasn't paid to advertise seems to have noticed, and nobody seems to care about enough to even copy-edit. The article states that the show (or possibly the accompanying meals) were initially reviewed as "so-so", and later described as "terrible" and "tragic". Am I being unduly harsh if I suggest that

our article is much the same? We can do better than this, surely... AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:39, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Dear AndyTheGrump, as I understand it, new articles are featured as DYKs on the main page so the newest content gets called to the attention of established editors who, in general, jump in and help improve it. A bunch of that happened on this article the day it was featured, so the system works as intended, IMHO. As for the info box you deleted, I had basically just copied that from the Medieval Times article, since Battle of the Dance was intended to be the same type of venture and was started by the same entrepeneur (as the article says). Maybe if you're here to build an encyclopedia, you could think of putting a little effort in, maybe go improve that article a little by beefing up the info box there to make it more useful? On the other hand, if you're just here to be a grump, then well done and carry on.
P.S. The Los Angeles Times is the fourth most widely distributed newspaper in the country; are we referring to that as a "local newspaper" now?
P.P.S. The DYK got over 4500 hits that day, so clearly there were people interested in it who weren't "paid to advertise", whatever that is supposed to mean.
--Rnickel (talk) 19:14, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Would I be unduly harsh to suggest that AndyTheGrump must not have actually read the article - since he wasn't sure whether it was the show or the meals that got panned, and since he described a very well-written article as "thrown together from cuttings from a couple of local newspapers"? In any case, it was nice that some of the people who clicked on this DYK decided to improve the article. --MelanieN (talk) 20:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Business[edit]

One editor had removed the "business" template from the page, stating he could see no evidence this WAS a business (as opposed to simply a theater performance or show). I have restored the template as this was indeed a business. To anyone with such concerns, may I refer you to this article [1] in the Orange County Register:

  • The article itself states:
    • "Requests for comment were left on the company's voicemail"
    • "[The] company began to rent the space to outside groups."
    • "The company's phone reservation system and website are not working."
  • A former performer is quoted as saying "Andrés Gelabert and his company had run out of money"
  • Anaheim Mayor Tom Tait is quoted as saying: ""It's always sad to see a local business close its doors. But, as any business owner will tell you, running a business is tough."

--Rnickel (talk) 17:13, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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