Talk:Battle of Cocherel

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National identities of forces[edit]

Surely the Captal de Buch was from Aquitaine, not England? Fornadan (t) 20:32, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strange idea to think that the armies in the Middle Ages were "national" in the modern meaning of the word. In this army supporting the king of England, a small minority was actually "English" Nortmannus (talk) 11:35, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong co-ordinates[edit]

The coordinates point to Cocherel near Meaux, east of Paris, while the box says the battle took place at Cocherel near Évreux. I suppose that the latter is correct, in this case the coordiantes should be corrected. --Proofreader (talk) 08:51, 28 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done Monstrelet (talk) 17:36, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Impossible[edit]

The information in this article is impossible. The country of France did not exist at that period in time! It's called west fankia, and wow that sounds like France. It isn't! It doesn't have the same line of succession it's not the same government it's not the same group of Kings. It is its own thing it does not include places like burgundy and Provence and other things that make France - France! The concept of burgundy also didn't exist at that time. Concept of burgundy arises much later when some French Duke married an Austrian princess and like they both own land close to each other in that area and so he buys land from like other nobles to fill in the gaps so the children were going to inherit the whole thing. I don't remember all the exact details but like that's a story from like the late 1700s early 1800s. Burgundy is firmly within the country of Lothringia at this time. It almost certainly isn't called Burgundy and it definitely does not include all the territory of burgundy as it exists today. Like there's so much inaccuracy and what's being said here that it's basically tantamount to myth. 96.238.56.251 (talk) 13:15, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Charles II - a second Charles the Bald?[edit]

I think Wikipedia is the first place I've ever seen Charles II called Charles the bald. I believe that there is an error here. As far as I know Charles the bald is a son of Charlemagne. King of West Francia (what will become essentially Germany) he signed the treaty of verdun. That's Charles the Bald. Charles the second here is more than likely one of his nephews or a great nephew - cousin? Idk but it's not Charles the Bald. If it is then listing him as the king of Navare is ridiculous he's the king of West Francia like all of Germany Austria and parts of Eastern Europe. But I don't think it's him I think it's one of his nephews. He's just mislabeled. I went to his Wikipedia page he's not even bald there's a painting of him with hair! 96.238.56.251 (talk) 13:30, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you have misread the article. Charles of Navarre was known as Charles the Bad. Monstrelet (talk) 16:38, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]