Talk:Battle of Burs

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Location[edit]

The boy contained a link to Birs, Iran which clearly can't be the site of the battle. According to the description it should be somewhere between Najaf and Babylon, i.e. in the vicinity of Kafel though I was not able to find any indications to the precise location or any modern day equivalent of this place. If anyone knows where exactly this battle took place, feel free to add any relevant details. --Proofreader (talk) 15:45, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Proofreader: The user who made this article have made various disruptive and plagiarised edits. If you ask me this article should be deleted. But yeah it's somewhere in Iraq. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:13, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input. In the first version of the article the author provided the following reference: http://www.alim.org/library/biography/khalifa/content/KUM/18/19#sthash.mJYX6Vx5.dpuf and it really seems as if he copied the text from there 1:1 so we would have a copyright issue here. Although it's only a minor battle, it would be a pity if the article had to be deleted. Some expert should at least rephrase if not rewrite the article, then. Looking at Muslim conquest of Persia#Sources there should be plenty of secondary literature on this. --Proofreader (talk) 16:45, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Proofreader: I can make a much better non-plagiarised version, I was actually about to do that but then he started creating several articles (such as this one) which I had planned on creating. But I want to create it from scratch, so this article should be deleted, and I will shortly make a new one with better sources. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:55, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Very good - as you can see, I marked it as a probable copyright violation anyway. Thanks for your effort. --Proofreader (talk) 16:58, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Proofreader: Great, but this is unfortunately one of the many articles which he has used copyrighted information. He has done the same in many other articles about the Muslim conquest of Persia, such as the Muslim conquest of Kerman (which was also one of the articles I planned to make) and so on. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:01, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, so the article may be deleted before you find the time to write it anew. At least I just found the info on the location of Burs which you may use for a new article on the battle. According to this: [1] (entry: Birs) Burs would be identical to Birs (Nimrud) which obviously is the same as the Sumerian Borsippa, southwest of Hilla which fits perfectly. --Proofreader (talk) 17:17, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed[edit]

Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.alim.org/library/biography/khalifa/content/KUM/18/19 and Masudul Hasan (1997), Hadrat Umar Farooq: Allahʻs Blessings be Upon Him, page 347. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)

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