Talk:Australian Consolidated Press

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Requested move 10 September 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 01:47, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


ACP Magazines → Australian Consolidated Press – The page was moved to its current title in 2008 when the name of the now-defunct organisation was changed. It should now be reverted back to reflect the name by which the organisation was known for most of its existence DilatoryRevolution (talk) 05:24, 10 September 2019 (UTC)--Relisting. DannyS712 (talk) 17:10, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose I am not convinced by the nominator's reasoning. The article does not state when the name "ACP Magazines" was adopted and I see no particular advantage in using the original name rather than the recent name. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:41, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support Nominator's argument is reasonable on the surface. If it existed as a notable entity under the name X for 10 times as long as it existed under the name Y, X seems like a better title (even if it wasn't the most recent one), given that we would expect there to exist more coverage referring to it as X than as Y. But as Cwmhiraeth points out, the article doesn't state when the rename occurred, and I wasn't able to find sources regarding the rename after a few minutes of googling. If nominator or anyone else wants to update the article with a source regarding the rename, I would support the move. Otherwise, I'd support the status quo. Colin M (talk) 19:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment, Australian Consolidated Press was rebranded ACP in 2000.[1]. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olgastan (talk • contribs) 06:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thank you for finding that source, and updating the article. I now fully support this move. Colin M (talk) 14:55, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, meets the criteria of WP:COMMONNAME. Olgastan (talk) 06:57, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge suggestion[edit]

The newly created Are Media article is a WP:CONTENTFORK of this article. Propose merging that article into this one to preserve the edit hitory of the long standing article and then renaming it Are Media. Securinehigh (talk) 04:52, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Consolidated Press is not a direct predecessor to Are Media. While there is a directly traceable coroporate succession between the two, their assets are quite different with many brands discontinued and others acquired. Similar to the separation of the three Viacom pages, the two articles can cover different ground and can outline the positions of the companies during their periods of existence. --DilatoryRevolution (talk) 07:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge, it's the same company per its Australian Business Number. The brands discontinued have occurred within periods of ownership, i.e. new owners have bought the business in full and then closed certain titles. Likewise acquisitions have been made independently of changes of ownership, e.g. Pacific Magazines. The Viacom articles are all much larger as combined would be over the 50kB threshold suggested for articles to be split. This article is only 21kB. Langlongg (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:08, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Concur with Langlongg. Having read the Australian company registry, they clearly are the same company. Are Media is the current incarnation of Australian Consolidated Press in the same way that 20th Century Studios is the current incarnation of 20th Century Fox. Andykatib 04:01, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Technical comment: given that the Are Media page already exists, it would be much more straightforward to merge directly to the final target. The merge templates (including template:merged from) preserve the attribution and link to the page history. Klbrain (talk) 11:19, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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