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Zeami Motokiyo[edit]

The following was temporarily removed from the text because it lacks the verifiable support of an in-line citation. Without more, this could be merely spurious:

Yoshimitsu took Zeami Motokiyo as his lover in 1374.

The bare statement, standing alone, is inadequate without more -- without some sort of better developed context and possible internal links to other articles in Wikipedia ...? --Tenmei (talk) 19:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Inadequate citation support[edit]

The following sentence is accompanied by a valid citation; however, I can find no support for the sentence in examining the on-line material made available by the Library of Congress today:

"In 1404, the Chinese Ming Dynasty sent the envoy Zhao Juren to Japan on a diplomatic trip. The Ming Dynasty entitled Yoshimitsu "King of Japan" and presented him a "King of Japan" seal, which he accepted. Yoshimitsu replied in a letter ending with "The King of Japan, your vassal Yoshimitsu."(日本国王臣源義満).<:ref>Worden, Robert (1994). "Kamakura and Muromachi Periods, 1185-1573," A Country Study: Japan. Federal Research Division, Library of Congress.</ref>

The dubious sentence is so specific that I'm guessing that it really is valid, but the question about how to support it remains unanswered. Maybe the information was posted in an earlier iteration of this "country study" web site?

A corollary exchange of diplomatic letters can be verified thirty years later. In 1433 (Eikyō 5, 6th month), the Emperor of China addressed a letter to Shogun Yoshinori in which the Chinese presume that the head of the Ashikaga shogunate is effectively the "king of Japan."<:ref>Titsingh, Isaac. (1834). Annales des empereurs du japon, p. 335.</ref>

With adequate citation support, this sentence could be restored immediately. --Tenmei (talk) 21:50, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ashikaga Yoshimitsu in Popular Culture and/or Fictional Characters Based on Him[edit]

Hope this would not be a problem to bring up, but I spoke with someone brought up what might be an interesting tidbit (if verified as true). This person claimed that the Yoshimitsu characters from Bandai-Namco's Tekken and Soulcalibur series were partly inspired by the Shogun Ashikaga Yoshimitsu. While there some interesting similarities between these individuals, in that they are Japanese men who had/have a focus (the fictional Yoshimitsus especially so) and also follow Buddhism (and beyond that the similarities end), however I do not see anything in this article that would corroborate these claims that this person claimed about Namco modeling their Yoshimitsu characters on the real-life Ashikaga.

Does anyone think this person is simply making this up, or if there are some obscure (and also embellished) folklore accounts? Regardless, I'll look into this and report what I find and let some other editors decide if my findings (if any) would merit being added. Fuelsaver (talk) 00:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]