Talk:Andrew Robinson Stoney

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Subject of article[edit]

The subject of this article is Andrew Stoney, but the text of the article seems to be entirely about his wife. Most of the content is copied directly from the article about Mary Eleanor Bowes. Dreadpiratetif 19:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I removed the content about about Mary Eleanor Bowes that wasn't directly relevant to the subject of the article. It could use some editing to make the first sentence read a little better, though.Koppas (talk) 21:57, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Variation in name in sources[edit]

Some sources have him as Andrew ROBERTSON Stoney. Should this varation be noted?

Recently the file File:Andrew Robinson Bowes Esqr. as he appeared in the Court of Kings Bench by James Gillray.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 05:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Questioning the References to 1777[edit]

It looks like there may be a problem with the dates. Look at the occurrences in 1777, The Lady meets Stoney "in the summer of 1777" yet later is married to him in January 1777? Also, some other questions in that year " a daughter born in August 1777"? It seems some housekeeping around that date is called for.al (talk) 23:12, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


On a related note, there seems to be a lack of good references in the article. For example, regarding the rape of the maids the only reference I can find of this online is from https://gw.geneanet.org/mandalski2012?n=bowes&oc=&p=mary+eleanor and the wording of this article(also unreferenced) is almost exactly the wording used in the Wikipedia article. This indicates a circular reference or plagiarism may have happened by one or both parties. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.86.183.179 (talk) 06:09, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed reference to 'stony-broke'[edit]

I took out a reference in the introductory paragraph to the expression 'stony broke' possibly having derived from Stoney's name, as it seems unlikely. According to the OED the earliest usage of the slang term was in the mid-1880s (seventy years after Stoney's death) and the expression as first used was not 'stony broke' but 'stone-broke'. RLamb (talk) 08:04, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Huge gap[edit]

Chronologically, this article skips from its subject's birth (simply mentioned as 1747) to his meeting his wife, thirty years later. Surely more of his life is know that that. Even Thackeray wrote more, and it surely wasn't all fiction. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 20:02, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]