Talk:Alexandra Waterbury

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Lawsuit information[edit]

User:2604:2000:12C1:845B:350F:DA6B:571F:9A5B has removed information regarding those mentioned in the lawsuit filed by Waterbury. The persons involved are mentioned in the sources provided in the article. I have invited this editor to engage on a discussion here regarding their intentions in removing the information by asking on their talk page. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:15, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The user removed the following:

Her lawsuit alleges that Finlay, along with dancers Amar Ramasar and Zachary Catazaro and patron Jared Longhitano, shared sexually explicit images and videos of female dancers, including Waterbury, without their knowledge or consent.

This information is sourced.

The user also added unsourced information:

The two had met through convicted felon Winston Nguyen, ex donor of the New York City Ballet.

-- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:23, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source was provided but was considered a 'trivial blog' yet it was a direct interview with the source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by User:2604:2000:12C1:845B:350F:DA6B:571F:9A5B (talk) 22:28, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, this is regarding additional information you added to the article and not the previous incident mentioned above. Interviews are not always credible sources, as the website you used is a blog. The information you added also does not depict what is stated in the interview (as a source is a credible article not the subject of the article). Your addition to the article states that Waterbury "knew" of Finlay's use of drugs and alcohol and continued to date him, which not only seems trivial but is not what is stated. What that source does state is that Waterbury claims NYCB knew of his behavior. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:34, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NYCB knew of behavior but the girlfriend did not? How is that possible unless they are not in fact together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:12C1:845B:350F:DA6B:571F:9A5B (talk • contribs)

As this is an encyclopedia and not an opinion piece, it is not our job to try and "bridge the gap" between who knew what in personal situations. Our information must be reflected in the sources, and the source you provided does not back the claim that "Waterbury knew about Finlay's drug and alcohol use" and "dated him anyway". -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend reading the interview again. With due respect, you had already approved information without a source 'They met while she was a student at School of American Ballet'

The source does indeed back my claim. It asserts that she as well as the NYCB knew about his alleged drug and alcohol use.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:12C1:845B:350F:DA6B:571F:9A5B (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2604: Regardless of whether the source supports your claim about what she knew (it seems to me that it doesn't), you need to cite it properly, not just include it as a direct external link. Maproom (talk) 23:17, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Her lawsuit alleges that Finlay, along with dancers Amar Ramasar and Zachary Catazaro and patron Jared Longhitano, shared sexually explicit images and videos of female dancers, including Waterbury, without their knowledge or consent." It is defamatory to bunch all of these individuals together who were not accused of sharing any material of Waterbury, as per the lawsuit: http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/SQLData.jsp?IndexNo=158220-2018 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:12C1:845B:C8C9:6AC:B811:13A4 (talk) 23:30, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notable?[edit]

Comment - I wonder if it wasn't for this lawsuit, would we even have an article on her, she doesn't seem to pass WP:GNG, and WP:NOTNEWS comes to mind. I looked at these refs: Wilhelmina, City Models, Munich Models, Design Scene, lofficielusa, etc. and there is no significant coverage of her in those sources. Even when an event is notable, individuals involved in it may not be. Isaidnoway (talk) 07:18, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]