Talk:Alan Rouse

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Rouse was in agony[edit]

I'm not questioning the statement but wonder if anyone can explain why Mr Rouse was in agony more so than the other members of the party who had survived to that point. Thanks (71.22.47.232 (talk) 21:34, 8 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]

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Language choice[edit]

"Rouse, when conscious, was in agony, and the other climbers decided to leave him to save their own lives."

Maybe nitpicking but "decided" seems like a loaded, inappropriately judgemental choice of words. All of them had been above 8000m for many days and without water for three. Not only is a rescue at that altitude widely acknowledged to be impossible, between oxygen starvation and dehydration the others' cognitive state would have rendered them incapable of "deciding" anything. It is important to examine what happened when something goes wrong in the mountains, but assigning blame is rarely productive.96.240.128.124 (talk) 01:44, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I take the point. One problem is that that whole section is unreferenced, so it is not possible to know what is stated in the source material and what is an editor's own judgement. This source says: "They believed they didn't stand a chance of getting Rouse down in his semi-comatose condition, so they made him as comfortable as they could and left him in his tent. No one harbored any illusions that they would see him again. The five conscious survivors, in fact, were in such bad shape themselves that the descent quickly became a case of everyone for himself." I will modify the wording and try to improve the article. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:08, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]