Talk:Alan Davie

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TheMemeMonarch suggests that this article text has been copy-pasted from elsewhere. Having written the original stub article 15 years ago and added further text and a variety of references to develop the article (particularly the musical aspect) since then, I am keen to refute that this article was copied into here. That is not to say that the text resulting from 15 years of piecemeal additions isn't a bit lumpy and could benefit from the prose being freshened. AllyD (talk) 07:21, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, perhaps TheMemeMonarch could give some indication of what source(s) he/she thinks stuff might have been copied from? Meanwhile, AllyD, how comfortable are you with the content that was added on 1 September 2008, apparently sourced to The Story of Modern Art by Norbert Lynton? It makes me a little uneasy, to say the least. Do you by any chance have access to that book? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:12, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're thinking of this set of additions by Cahier? Overall I wouldn't disagree with what it is saying (it is consistent with a lecture/improvision by Davie which I attended around 40 years ago) but do find "explosive brushwork" and "inspired soothsayer" rather over-emphatic. Unfortunately, I haven't seen that Lynton book, so I don't know whether the text here may be too close a paraphrase, but I'd be comfortable with these sentences being simplified and toned-down. AllyD (talk) 12:51, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- It may not be copy and pasted, but it reads as if a critic wrote it and not as an encylopedic entry. Typically, this is a result of copying and pasting, but it could just be written weird. Edit: I'm going to remove the copy and paste warning for now. I put it through a plagiarism detector and it was found to be 75% plagiarized, but that could be websites plagiarizing wikipedia.TheMemeMonarch (talk) 15:20, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]