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A great work. more to be added about the fights AKG had done towards the betterment of the poor people of the country

Its seems with Susheela was AKG's 2nd marriage.Any clues?I'll write once I come across something.--Sahodaran 04:34, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I dont think AKG had association with Khilafat Movement . His participation in the Guruvayoor Sathyagraham should be added in the article. His autobiography can be checked for most of these details . Bharatveer 06:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Move to A. K. Gopalan[edit]

I don't know whether this is supposed to be a discussion, but I completely agree with the move. Tintin (talk) 12:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My suggestion was to move it to A.K. Gopalan, in line with South Indian naming conventions. --Soman 13:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a seperate South Indian convention ? I was under the impression that the "space between initials" format is for all articles and have moved some articles from the other format to this in the past. Tintin (talk) 04:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I meant a general South Indian naming convention not a wikipedia naming convention. In any case, there should not be a space between the initials, neither in this article nor in others. --Soman 06:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There was a discussion a few months back in another wikipedia project where I am involved in about the naming convention. Somebody then discovered a policy discussion where the majority had agreed with the space format (discussion, mind you, not an official policy - as of then atleast) and WP:CRIC decided to use it that way. I am not able to find it now and am still looking. (Wikipedia:Naming conventions has too many subpages.)

If there is no standard for India/S India/Malayalam articles, it may be nice to initiate a discussion in one of the project pages so that the articles will have a uniform format. I don't really mind either one except that now I have got used to the space format. Tintin (talk) 08:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree to Move.--Sahodaran 03:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Move to A. K. Gopalan. Space between initials is customary except where justification can be provided for an exception. See WP:NCP. —Wknight94 (talk) 12:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

Ayillyath Kuttiari Gopalan Nambiar → A. K. Gopalan – In South Indian nameusage, full names are rarely used in newsmedia, litterature or conversation. — Soman 12:09, 16 August 2006 (UTC) -- tariqabjotu 00:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Modification I added the space to "A.K." per naming conventions. I have no vote to cast here. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 02:36, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you point us to the page which mentions that. We are a little bit confused about whether there is a universal/project based convention for it. Tintin (talk) 04:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Aren't there usually no spaces between initials like that? Wouldn't "A.K." be more correct than "A. K. "? TJ Spyke 07:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Question of Sino-Indo Conflict of 1962[edit]

there seems to be a little confusion with regard to the position of the indian communists in the Sino-Indo Border War of 1962 for as is well documented the CPI supported the Chinese claim —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.183.96 (talk) 19:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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category: Indian communists[edit]

Hi! I noticed that you removed the category 'Indian communists' fromn A. K. Gopalan. Why? Vikram Vincent 03:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincentvikram: He's in the subcategories Category:Communist Party of India (Marxist) politicians from Kerala and Category:Communist Party of India politicians from Kerala: no need for him to be in the parent category as well. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:56, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ser Amantio di Nicolao So while both the tags you mentioned are correct, AKG's work happens to precede the formation of the CPIM. He was with the undivided CPI along with role at the national level. From this perspective I think the 'Indian communists' category may be more appropriate than for communists post formation of CPIM. Vikram Vincent 04:08, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincentvikram: I do take your point, even if I'm not quite sure I agree; regardless I have no problem with it if you wish to undo my edits. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:17, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ser Amantio di Nicolao I came across a discussion elsewhere which said that if a sub-cat is more appropriate then that should be used instead of the overarching one. However, in this specific case along with communists pre-Indian independence, the Indian communist category might be more suited. If you have a specific concern not addressed please do share. Let me see if I can clarify. Vikram Vincent 04:25, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincentvikram: It's just that, in this instance, he belonged to two parties titled "Communist Party". To me, that implies that he was a communist - I don't see the need for him to be in the parent category as well, even if his involvement in communist politics predates the formation of the parties. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:28, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: so who would fit into 'Indian communist' category or rather what definition does that category hold? Vikram Vincent 04:42, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincentvikram: To me, people who would fit into that category are people who held and expressed communist beliefs but were never formally members of any political party. Otherwise, I would place them in one of the subcategories. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:43, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ser Amantio di Nicolao how can you be a communist if you are not part of a commune? :-) I don't think simply espousing a belief in isolation makes one a communist by the very definition of the term Vikram Vincent 04:52, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincentvikram: I would suspect the likeliest people for such a category would be journalists with communist newspapers, writers who wrote communist works, people of that sort. That said, mostly I would expect it to be a container category. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 04:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: The 37 or so people currently in the category are correct. Removing them along with AKG won't be correct I feel as 'Indian communists' would be most accurate rather than the subcategories. Also, I don't think there are enough of the independents whom you mentioned. While container is apt, my suggestion is to also allow it to hold pre-independence figures like the current 37 or so, which can expand a bit more. Thanks. Vikram Vincent 05:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincentvikram: Well, as I say. If you wish to undo my edit, I don't mind - I don't agree, but I'll not fight it. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:27, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! What I will do is also try to draft a rationale based on our discussion to define the category. Vikram Vincent 06:39, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincentvikram: I might suggest making it about communists in general, rather than Indian communists specifically - I have a feeling this is a discussion that is likely to come up in multiple contexts. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 06:41, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: where do I post it? Vikram Vincent 09:19, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Vincentvikram: I'd put it in draft space until getting other editors to comment on it. Ultimately, though, I would aim to make it a category hatnote, as that's where people will see it most easily. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:34, 21 December 2020 (UTC) Vikram Vincent 15:05, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]