Talk:Émile Benveniste

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Roland Barthes[edit]

I have deleted the following, since it does not make seem to make sense:

Roland Barthes recognised Benveniste's work as being of the utmost importance in pioneering the understanding of the "middle voice" of the verb - that is to say, of the writer who writes intransitively.

I don't know anything about Roland Barthes' ideas, so maybe I'm missing something. The explanation ("that is to say, of the writer who writes intransitively") is hard to interpret: as an example of middle voice in the grammatical sense it should be "My book writes well" (which would barely be English---"My car drives well" would be better). But it's not clear that's what is intended. If somebody who knows Barthes wants to rescue this, go ahead of course! -- Ngio 09:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Artical Bias "became enlightened by the structural view of language through the work of F. de Saussure, although he was unwilling to grasp it at first, being a convinced follover of the sociological stance of his teacher." Words like "enlightened," "unwilling to GRASP IT," are so obviously slanted it's kind of horrifying. Enlightened should be "convinced" and "unwilling to grasp it" should be "unconvinced of" or "skeptical of"... Furthermore, Benveniste was absolutely NOT a convinced unconditional follower of Saussure. One of his final works (before his untimely demise), "The Semiology of Language," was an outline for a program "to move beyond Saussurian linguistics," according to Agamben. Now, we can dispute whether Agamben was right in his summary of Benveniste's program for the "overcoming of Saussurian linguistics" but at the very least there should be some debate here. It is ABSOLUTELY ABSURD to claim that Benveniste became nothing more than a "convinced follower" of Saussurian linguistics. I have not modified the entry because this seems to go too deep and really require a drastic change in the entire introduction to the piece. I do hope somebody looks into this, and whoever is being so childish about Saint Saussure should probably calm himself down.--Nargmage 19:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Reason for the reference?[edit]

Why is Warnant 1968 listed in References if it is not mentioned elsewhere in the article?S. Valkemirer (talk) 10:16, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]