Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2007-02-19/Failing

For the record, I've listed both the article Wikipedia:Wikipedia is failing and the rebuttal on AFD as divisive and stupid. yes, I know it seems like another battle and I'm going off the rails, but really, this is all getting very stupid. Ever since this trend towards writing essays to push POV and attempt to make defacto policy, the whole site is getting much more unfriendly and unproductive. Essays are a great way of a. getting around consensus, and b. push your sole POV on others. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Couple of points[edit]

Interesting read! I have a couple of minor suggestions: you might want to note that the version of the essay that was moved to my user space was the re-written version as opposed to the original. As I was blocked at the time I couldn't do anything about that. You might also want to note that User:AudeVivere undeleted the link that JzG deleted, and he then re-deleted it. Feel free to ignore these suggestions if you think they are biased! Worldtraveller 12:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, and you say it was moved over my protests. I argued against the move but I wouldn't really say it was moved over my protests as I think I was not the only one arguing, and 'over X's protests' possibly sounds a bit over-dramatic. Again, ignore if you want. Worldtraveller 12:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you like the changes. I thought of mentioning AudeVivere's recreation and deletion but decided against it, as it was reversed and wasn't very important in the whole scheme of things, plus it might over-complicate what is already quite a complicated history. Sam Blacketer 16:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Missed reasoning[edit]

Unfortunately, the article fails to explain why I moved it into userspace, merely stating that I did so. I think the reasoning here is important, and I would've liked to have seen it covered in the article. --Cyde Weys 01:54, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What was that... maybe a reporter might be kind enough to update the article. That article, incidently, should be in user space. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Move log, it was "If no one else is allowed to edit this, as many of the "Wikipedia is failing" crowd are asserting, then it is NOT a projectspace essay." I did not include this as the reason for the move because I had already reported that people were using this argument. Sam Blacketer 10:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]