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OTO Bodies

Anyone feel that individual OTO bodies could use a wiki page? I just joined the project, and would love to help out. This isn't necessarily my strong suit (although back issues of Agape provide great sources), but would love to hear other opinions.

I think that "competing" branches of OTO should have individual pages. I do not think that this should extend down to individual Lodges or other subordinate units of branches. I think that the purpose should be to illustrate the ideas and histories of the organizations. Just my opinion. Estéban (talk) 08:50, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 06:47, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject_Thelema Out Of Date Things

I noticed that "The Aleister Crowley Desk Reference" (redflame93.com/DeskReference.html) is at a no longer registered domain. Additionally, the "user thelema" userbox doesn't seem to work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fr.333 (talk • contribs) 00:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Article alerts

This is a notice to let you know about Article alerts, a fully-automated subscription-based news delivery system designed to notify WikiProjects and Taskforces when articles are entering Articles for deletion, Requests for comment, Peer review and other workflows (full list). The reports are updated on a daily basis, and provide brief summaries of what happened, with relevant links to discussion or results when possible. A certain degree of customization is available; WikiProjects and Taskforces can choose which workflows to include, have individual reports generated for each workflow, have deletion discussion transcluded on the reports, and so on. An example of a customized report can be found here.

If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the display=none parameter, but forget to give a link to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Wikipedia:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at Wikipedia talk:Article alerts.

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Thanks. — Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 09:46, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Thelema

Anyone here? We've got a dispute going at that article and Talk:Thelema about the scholarly sources on Rabelais and Aleister Crowley. Dan (talk) 01:39, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Saints article

Been trying to resolve a dispute over Saints of Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica. Can we get some other voices involved, regarding the difference between the EGC and other organizations like EGnU? (Zack Anderson) 75.73.50.113 (talk) 20:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Didn't have that article on my watchlist or I'd already have tried to help. Seems the name of the article might be too specific and maybe it should be moved. I'll be over. (P.S. you should put new sections at the end of talk pages, not the beginning). Will in China (talk) 21:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Magical Tools

Wiccans have the following page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_tools_in_Wicca

Because of the extensive outlines in various Thelemic literature (such as MiTP), it would not be too difficult for Thelemites to have a similar article. Would it make sense to make a Magical tools in Thelema article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.46.61.89 (talk) 18:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Popular pages

User:Mr.Z-man has a new service available to various requesting WikiProjects which gives the project a monthly update of the number of hits on the 1,000 most frequently accessed articles for that project. An example of such a listing can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Popular pages. Would the members of this project be interested in getting such a list for their use? John Carter (talk) 18:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that could be very useful --Rodneyorpheus (talk) 20:48, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Rating Project Pages

Since I've been going round updating a bunch of the Wiki Project Thelema pages over the past months, I've started re-examining the ratings that the articles had and bringing those up to date. I'd tried to stick closely to the Project guidelines, but please feel free to discuss in this section any other rating changes you'd like to see. --Rodneyorpheus (talk) 21:45, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Reassessment, particularly quality reassessment, needs to be done regularly. Regarding importance assessment, one thing I'm trying to enact over at the Christianity WikiProject is to have the navigation template for the subject, which in this case would be either Template:Thelema series or Template:Thelema, listing only those articles which are deemed as being of the "Top" importance to the project. Other articles could be linked by other navigation templates. But having a clear idea as to which articles are of the most importance, and, by extension, which should be the first choices to further develop or add new material to, might be useful in any event. Thank you for the work. John Carter (talk) 17:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I think that's a great idea. However currently I think we only have two articles rated Top, since I've tried to stay pretty conservative with ratings wherever possible. So either we'd need to re-rate things to bring a few more up to Top rating, or make it Top & High. Either is fine by me - what do others think? Rodneyorpheus (talk) 18:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Generally, any article which has a {{main article}} link in the main article itself is also generally of "top" importance. I'm not sure if that would work in this case, though. A separate History of Thelema article might be useful, and I would definitely count Aleister Crowley as Top importance. If there were a Theology of Thelema or maybe Philosophy of Thelema, I might add them as well. Articles of that type tend to be somewhat consistent across "religion" projects. Those would be about the only ones I would add that aren't already included as links from the main Thelema article, and, like I said, I'm not really sure about all of them. John Carter (talk) 18:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Pageview stats

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Thelema to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Thelema/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. I can also get provide the full data for any project covered by the bot if requested, though I normally don't keep it for much longer than a couple weeks after the list is generated. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 04:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

This is great, well done! --Rodneyorpheus (talk) 07:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Changes to popular pages lists

There are a few important changes to the popular pages system. A quick summary:

• The "importance" ranking (for projects that use it) will be included in the lists along with assessment.
• The default list size has been lowered to 500 entries (from 1000)
• I've set up a project on the Toolserver for the popular pages - tools:~alexz/pop/.
  • This includes a page to view the results for projects, including the in-progress results from the current month. Currently this can only show the results from a single project in one month. Features to see multiple projects or multiple months may be added later.
  • This includes a new interface for making requests to add a new project to the list.
  • There is also a form to request a change to the configuration for a project. Currently the configurable options are the size of the on-wiki list and the project subpage used for the list.
• The on-wiki list should be generated and posted in a more timely and consistent manner than before.
• The data is now retained indefinitely.
• The script used to generate the pages has changed. The output should be the same. Please report any apparent inconsistencies (see below).
• Bugs and feature requests should be reported using the Toolserver's bug tracker for "alexz's tools" - [1]

-- Mr.Z-man 00:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)