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New article Ustertag

I translated Ustertag using gTranslate, and I think I got it pretty clear, though the last paragraph didn't translate cleanly so I shielded it. Anyone want to help add a little larger context for we who don't know a lot about Swiss history? MatthewVanitas (talk) 06:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I made a quick translation of the section and will add some more detail from the Volkstage in German, French and Italian in the online Historical Dictionary of Switzerland. soon. Tobyc75 (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Much appreciated. Does the name mean anything literally? That'd be good to add. And any help better-categorising it would be great too. Thanks for helping out, gTranslate only goes so far, and I can only really translate well from Latin-based languages (mining lots of ca.wiki these days). MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I believe that the name comes from the city of Uster and the name for the legislative and executive body of the Swiss Confederation the Tagsatzung. Uster+tag . Does anyone else here know for sure?Tobyc75 (talk) 22:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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Zurich photo requests

Would someone mind photographing the Swiss International Air Lines/Swiss European Air Lines building and the Gate Gourmet building in Zurich Airport, Kloten? Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Geneva photo requests

Would someone mind photographing the Privatair building and the Skyguide building in Geneva Airport, Meyrin? Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Population templates

I've created some templates based on what's being done on the German Wikipedia. These templates read population from a central metadata page and fill out the populations in the articles. Using these templates, all the muncipal, district and canton articles could have their populations updated easily. However, I'm running into some problems with the {{as of}} and {{Infobox Swiss town}} templates. So I've got a couple of questions. First, though right now I've only uploaded Canton Bern data, but could you test the templates and let me know if you have any problems. Second, does anyone have any issues with adding the templates to the municipality articles. Finally, does anyone have any ideas on how to repair the conflicts with the other templates or add my templates to the infobox?

The templates are

Thanks Tobyc75 (talk) 15:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

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Free Democratic Party naming convention

The Free Democratic Party and Liberal Party merged (federally) to form FDP.The Liberals last year. The 'fix' adopted by Wikipedia then was simply to change the introduction of the Free Democratic Party of Switzerland to reflect the fact that they'd merged.

That is despite it being a completely new party, despite it having a completely new name, and despite the old parties retaining separate (and competing) organisations in Geneva, Vaud, and Valais.

French, Dutch, Spanish Wikipedias all have separate articles for FDP.The Liberals as from the predecessor FDP. I believe that should be the case on English Wikipedia, too. Opinions? Bastin 00:19, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Schwyz (talk) 14:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

External links stuff at UBS

Hi! I noticed the external links section of UBS is in small print. This appears to be an accident. Would someone mind fixing the font so that the text isn't small anymore? It seems like an error involving one of the references... WhisperToMe (talk) 21:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Infobox Swiss Towns

I've been working with another user to make some modifications to the Infobox Swiss Towns template. The modifications that we're putting together will automatically add updated population figures and maps using the SFOS code (or municipality code), the institutional websites of the communes will be also automatically added if not already present. For former municipalities, the template will now add a category according to the canton instead of the generic category 'former municipalities of Switzerland'. I think these modifications will make it easier to keep information up to date in the 2600+ municipality articles. Let us know what you think either here or at Template talk:Infobox Swiss town#Edit protection. Tobyc75 (talk) 11:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Canton categories

Should canton-related subcategories contain a capital "C" for "Canton" in their names? There's a right old mixture at the moment. Please see and comment at WT:CFD#Canton categories.--Kotniski (talk) 12:05, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Angeli Custodi

Small towns, notable or not? Need your opinions about that and more on Talk:Angeli Custodi. KzKrann (talk) 11:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Popular pages stats request

I've made a request for this project to get its own entry in Category:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject. Once created, it will be available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Switzerland/Popular pages. The request key is c38cb9e.  Sandstein  13:53, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

New article Ustertag

I translated Ustertag using gTranslate, and I think I got it pretty clear, though the last paragraph didn't translate cleanly so I shielded it. Anyone want to help add a little larger context for we who don't know a lot about Swiss history? MatthewVanitas (talk) 06:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I made a quick translation of the section and will add some more detail from the Volkstage in German, French and Italian in the online Historical Dictionary of Switzerland. soon. Tobyc75 (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Much appreciated. Does the name mean anything literally? That'd be good to add. And any help better-categorising it would be great too. Thanks for helping out, gTranslate only goes so far, and I can only really translate well from Latin-based languages (mining lots of ca.wiki these days). MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I believe that the name comes from the city of Uster and the name for the legislative and executive body of the Swiss Confederation the Tagsatzung. Uster+tag . Does anyone else here know for sure?Tobyc75 (talk) 22:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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Free Democratic Party naming convention

The Free Democratic Party and Liberal Party merged (federally) to form FDP.The Liberals last year. The 'fix' adopted by Wikipedia then was simply to change the introduction of the Free Democratic Party of Switzerland to reflect the fact that they'd merged.

That is despite it being a completely new party, despite it having a completely new name, and despite the old parties retaining separate (and competing) organisations in Geneva, Vaud, and Valais.

French, Dutch, Spanish Wikipedias all have separate articles for FDP.The Liberals as from the predecessor FDP. I believe that should be the case on English Wikipedia, too. Opinions? Bastin 00:19, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Schwyz (talk) 14:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

AFD for Synagogues in switzerland

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Synagogues in switzerland. East of Borschov 10:17, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

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Swiss

At Talk:Swiss (disambiguation) there is a discussion going on whether Swiss should redirect to Switzerland, Swiss people or a dab page. Thank you, in advance, for your opinions on the matter. mgeo talk 20:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Relevant SfD discussion

Feel free to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2011/January/30#Stub categories for Cantons of Switzerland, where te discussion of whether or not they should be renamed to remove the word "geography". עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Francophone

Francophone has been nominated for deletion. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 04:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Crans-Montana

The Crans-Montana page describes the Omega European Masters as the second biggest event in European golf. This is clearly not true - the BMW PGA Championship, Dubai World Championship, The Open, Scottish Open, French Open and World Match Play all have bigger prize funds and generally attract better-quality fields. The Omega European Masters is, however, one of the longest-running tournaments and has been held at the same venue for more consecutive years (24) than any other European Tour event — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.38.98.205 (talk) 09:35, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Swiss town template

I proposed a few changes to this template on Template_talk:Infobox_Swiss_town#Proposed_edit. Any comments on this edit or suggestions for further improvements are welcome!--Ultimate Destiny (talk) 23:17, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

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WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Switzerland will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Switzerland's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 22:11, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Gustave Moynier

I suggest inclusion of this article in this WikiProject. The artcile indicates he is a swiss jurist, born to a "rich and established Geneva family of merchant and bankers." Moreover, he is one of the founding members of the International Committee of the Red Cross. And in the list of founding members of the Institut de Droit International, his home city is listed as Geneva. IMHO (talk) 22:20, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for mentioning this interesting article, I just tagged it. In case you find other similar articles, do not hesitate to tag or list them here. mgeo talk 10:17, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of RSD S.A.

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The position of Schwarzenburg as shown on the map of Switzerland is not correct. It should be 46 deg 49min 06N and 7 deg 20 min 34 E.

Position of Schwarzenburg on the map of Switzerland is not correct, see above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.14.243 (talk) 19:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Thank you for spotting that. mgeo talk 21:20, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Christoph Bertschy and Christopher Bertschy

These articles seem to be about the same person. --Mika1h (talk) 12:50, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, I merged them. --Mika1h (talk) 13:00, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Portal idea: Swiss culture

I notice the French have fr:Portail:Culture de la Suisse. Would anyone be interested in starting Portal:Culture of Switzerland or Portal:Swiss culture? WhisperToMe (talk) 17:05, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Also there's fr:Portail:Politique suisse WhisperToMe (talk) 03:42, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't have the time to start portals on either of these topics, but if you're happy to do the job, I'm happy to support your work. The portals should be named Portal:Culture of Switzerland and Portal:Politics of Switzerland to comply with Wikipedia naming policies, and to tie in with the names of the existing Culture of Switzerland and Politics of Switzerland articles, both of which are part of series of articles with names in that form. Instructions on how to create portals are at Wikipedia:Portal/Instructions. Bahnfrend (talk) 05:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Cool! I can create the skeleton and fill in some of the entries, and see what kinds of "featured articles" and "featured images" the users like WhisperToMe (talk) 11:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

swissnex San Francisco update

Hello,

I work in communications at swissnex San Francisco. I am interested in updating the swissnex wikipedia page, but I have not done any editing on wikipedia before. I fully realize that wikipedia isn't a marketing platform, but I do think the swissnex page could be changed to better encapsulate what swissnex does.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed? I am absolutely open to advice. Furthermore, I would love to have collaborators who know swissnex San Francisco and would be willing to contribute to the page.

Thank you very much for your support.

--John swissnexsf (talk) 23:58, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


Hi and welcome. There's a couple of ways you can proceed. First and foremost, it's probably worth taking in the key points in our conflicts of interest guideline - while it is not prohibited to edit topics to which you may have a too close relationship, such as in this case, it is usually regarded with suspicion. The guideline gives a couple of pointers on how to avoid the most common pitfalls, but in essence, the safest way would be to head over to talk:Swissnex and start offering information and suggestions there rather than editing directly.
Second, the topic itself currently suffers from a lack of independent sources. What we mean by that is that in order to build an encyclopedic article that is neutral in tone and coverage, we require its content to be verifiable through multiple independent reliable sources. Media coverage but also scientific publications examining the impact Swissnex may have would be an ideal starting point - if you have any to provide, again posting them on the talk page would be helpful.
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I hope this isn't too overwhelming in one go. Wikipedia is a fascinating place, but it also has a steep learning curve. The helpdesk can also be of assistance there. Good luck and happy editing. MLauba (Talk) 00:52, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Wow, thank you so much for all the helpful information. I appreciate it and will take it seriously.

--John swissnexsf (talk) 20:51, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

File:Swiss cantons brown flags.png

File:Swiss cantons brown flags.png has been nominated for speedy deletion -- 70.24.248.246 (talk) 08:28, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

It wasn't nominated for speedy deletion; anything tagged with no-source delete has a 7 day window. But I went ahead and removed the template. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 08:37, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
It's the F4. Lack of licensing information. (unknown source) speedy deletion criterion. The edit summary says This file is up for deletion, per CSD F4 (no source). -- 70.24.248.246 (talk) 15:41, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 2013 Neuhausen am Rheinfall train collision

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Road in Google Maps

In Google Maps, If you look in street view you can see something. Look in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5MOfIluCno --24.193.224.216 (talk) 03:06, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Sion Olympic images

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File:Institut auf dem Rosenberg, Historic Main Building (1902).gif

File:Institut auf dem Rosenberg, Historic Main Building (1902).gif has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 01:27, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Voting in Switzerland and Elections in Switzerland

In 2006, a few people though about merging those two articles. Nothing has been done since then. In the talk page of Voting in Switzerland I explained the differences between "votation/Abstimmung" and "election/Wahl". I strongly believe we should keep both articles and that we should also remove everything about elections in Voting in Switzerland. There is no mention of votations in Elections in Switzerland. I can do split if you give me a green light. Orgyn (talk) 20:15, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

No objection from me. mgeo talk 16:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Templates for discussion

There are two deletion discussions regarding the templates Infobox Switzerland station and Infobox Swiss town, see:

Thanks. mgeo talk 16:52, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

GAR

Good article reassessment for Switzerland

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Merge

These articles need attention, some merge and perhaps move

--P64 (talk) 16:40, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Tagged for merger, thanks.  Sandstein  17:04, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

RfC: Should Infobox Swiss town use Infobox Settlement?

The discussion can be found here, all members of WP Switzerland (and non-members of course) are invited to participate.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 04:18, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Longchamp Outlet

long hard to understand apparntly irrelevant post
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Swiss canton district naming convention

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Districts_of_Switzerland#Article_naming. Eric talk 04:31, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

English exonyms for place names

English_exonyms#Switzerland. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:03, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Does anyone with this project have any issues with this edit? Thanks. Dohn joe (talk) 19:53, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

AfC submission

Could you have a look at this submission? Thanks, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 19:26, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission

Mind having a look at this one? Thanks again, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 19:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 29/05

Draft:Jérémie Pauzié. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 18:16, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Biel/Bienne#Requested move

Opinions are welcome. --Leyo 10:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

AfD of Possible Interest

There is currently an AfD discussion concerning an article that may be of interest to members of this project. Comments are welcome. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Puma Display Team. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

1954 FIFA World Cup spelling

Some expert help would be appreciated at Talk:1954 FIFA World Cup#German Spelling. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

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"Brown Swiss"

FYI, the usage of "Brown Swiss" is up for discussion, see Talk:Anglo-Nubian -- 65.94.171.225 (talk) 05:39, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Flags used in Battle of Sempach article

Looked the page "Battle of Sempach"

The "Swiss" flag is wrong The "Schwyz" flag is wrong (we never had any flags like this) The "Unterwalden" flag is wrong (it's Solothurn) The "Lucerne" flag is wrong (tilted 90 degrees)

I'm totally new here so don't know how to fix, but I'm happy to try if someone has the patience to help with a short chat. I'm on Skype, and/or I can call you. I just need help in getting into it, after that I'm sure I can manage.

Best regards,

Jürg Gassmann Monzambano 19:06, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Hallo und willkommen, Jürg (@Monzambano), and thanks for noting this. I turned your post here into a new section. I think I fixed the Lucerne coat of arms--see what you think. The Schwyz flag image is linked from a file named Blutfahne.svg, for which the uploader @GJo gave no description or info. The Unterwalden flag links from a file called Old_flag_of_Unterwalden.svg, uploaded by a longtime user, @Dbachmann, who may be able to clarify the use. When you post, don't forget to put four tildes ~~~~ at the end; that will automatically add your signature and a time stamp. Eric talk 22:26, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

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SRG SSR listed at Requested moves

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Haus der Religionen listed at Requested moves

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Zurich photo requests

Would someone mind photographing the Swiss International Air Lines/Swiss European Air Lines building and the Gate Gourmet building in Zurich Airport, Kloten? Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Population templates

I've created some templates based on what's being done on the German Wikipedia. These templates read population from a central metadata page and fill out the populations in the articles. Using these templates, all the muncipal, district and canton articles could have their populations updated easily. However, I'm running into some problems with the {{as of}} and {{Infobox Swiss town}} templates. So I've got a couple of questions. First, though right now I've only uploaded Canton Bern data, but could you test the templates and let me know if you have any problems. Second, does anyone have any issues with adding the templates to the municipality articles. Finally, does anyone have any ideas on how to repair the conflicts with the other templates or add my templates to the infobox?

The templates are

Thanks Tobyc75 (talk) 15:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

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External links stuff at UBS

Hi! I noticed the external links section of UBS is in small print. This appears to be an accident. Would someone mind fixing the font so that the text isn't small anymore? It seems like an error involving one of the references... WhisperToMe (talk) 21:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Infobox Swiss Towns

I've been working with another user to make some modifications to the Infobox Swiss Towns template. The modifications that we're putting together will automatically add updated population figures and maps using the SFOS code (or municipality code), the institutional websites of the communes will be also automatically added if not already present. For former municipalities, the template will now add a category according to the canton instead of the generic category 'former municipalities of Switzerland'. I think these modifications will make it easier to keep information up to date in the 2600+ municipality articles. Let us know what you think either here or at Template talk:Infobox Swiss town#Edit protection. Tobyc75 (talk) 11:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Canton categories

Should canton-related subcategories contain a capital "C" for "Canton" in their names? There's a right old mixture at the moment. Please see and comment at WT:CFD#Canton categories.--Kotniski (talk) 12:05, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Angeli Custodi

Small towns, notable or not? Need your opinions about that and more on Talk:Angeli Custodi. KzKrann (talk) 11:43, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Translations into French

Dear colleagues,
The WikiProject Switzerland on the French-speaking Wikipedia has created a page dedicated to the translation of Swiss articles from English, German and Italian into French. Don't hesitate to list overthere articles that do not exist in French or that are more developed in English. That would help us a lot. Regards Moumou82 (talk) 07:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Pageview stats

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Switzerland to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Switzerland/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 04:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Popular pages stats request

I've made a request for this project to get its own entry in Category:Lists of popular pages by WikiProject. Once created, it will be available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Switzerland/Popular pages. The request key is c38cb9e.  Sandstein  13:53, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Really interesting, thanks. The shortcut is WP:CH/PP. mgeo talk 22:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Canton

Kwamikagami (talk · contribs) has now started a discussion on the use of Canton, at Wikipedia talk:Article titles with the suggestion of moving the City in China to the primary name (it is currently at it's pinyin name, Guangzhou). Note, the province in China, Guangdong is also called "Canton" frequently in English. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 08:41, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Geneva photo requests

Would someone mind photographing the Privatair building and the Skyguide building in Geneva Airport, Meyrin? Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Did Privatair today. There was no practical parking spot near Skyguide and since it's freezing, I didn't feel like walking 1km to snap a lousy pic. MLauba (Talk) 12:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
PrivatAir HQ in Geneva, 15 December 2010
Thank you for taking the Privatair pic, MLauba! WhisperToMe (talk) 17:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Winter of Terror Article: Unassessed.

  • Winter of Terror - Currently unassessed. New WikiProject Switzerland template has been added and waiting to be assesed. It would be appreciated. Adamdaley (talk) 11:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Morality detentions

This could be a useful source to discuss morality detentions of teenagers, which stopped in 1981.

There's also a campaign site, written in German, at http://www.administrativ-versorgte.ch/ WhisperToMe (talk) 07:32, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Names like Corcelles, Switzerland

There are 7 villages in Switzerland with the name of Corcelles. The name of the village Corcelles, Switzerland therefore should be Corcelles, Bern, more correct would even be the official Swiss name Corcelles BE, but English people dislike evidently the use of the Swiss cantonal abbreviations like BE: almost the way Name of the village, Switzerland is not a good solution (in nearly most of the cases there are other places with the same name within Switzerland, so this is more confusing than explaining) - it is much more correct to adopt in Switzerland always the model Name of the village, name of the canton! So I propose to rename Corcelles, Switzerland into Corcelles, Bern (the same for Laufen, Rickenbach etc. etc.) DidiWeidmann (talk) 00:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

That would make sense if the other six were named just Corcelles but in fact, all other municipalities are named "Corcelles-something". So the reasoning for disambiguating from the other 6 Swiss municipalities is a bit moot (plus, 4 of the others are in the same canton). Isn't this a solution looking for a problem? MLauba (Talk) 03:09, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
It is not a sollution to call any village in Switzerland like the model VILLAGE NAME, SWITZERLAND! In the same way you never would use the model VILLAGE NAME, USA but VILLAGE NAME, TEXAS etc in the USA clearly as the states of the USA are souverain states like it is the case with the cantons in Switzerland. If you even analise more profundely you have to constate that all the 7 Corcelles in Switzerland are also separate villages. The solution of course is to rename all this Swiss municipalities or following the model of French Wikipedia or following the model of German Wikipedia. The said municipality which is named here Corcelles, Switzerland is officially called Corcelle BE (BE is the official lettercombination for Canton of Berne). Nobody in Switzerland woud understand which village is meant by Corcelles, Switzerland!!! But it would be clear which Corcelles is meant by Corcelle, Bern(e) [with our without e? ist an other question: English Wikipedia uses normally the German form Bern but the correkt English name would be Berne like in French --> French and German are both offical languages in the Canton of Berne!] --> But back to Corcelles and all other Swiss villages: This probleme should be generally discussed and the Swiss reality should be considered. It is a fact that municipalities are mainly governed by cantonal and only subsidiary by federal law! The Swiss cantons are souvereign states. So the names of municipalities should be treaten in a similar way as in USA or Germany. It is also a fact that a part of the names is following the model i propose Name, Canton other names are followining the model Name, Switzerland: Also for the uniformity of the names the problem should be considered! DidiWeidmann (talk) 13:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
There are cases when "X, Switzerland" is ambiguous (like the one mentioned above, fixed now) but others when it is clearly not (like Altdorf, Switzerland). The actual way of disambiguating the municipalities depending on the case seems fine to me. No need to imitate other countries. mgeo talk 17:42, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

New article Swiss Tax Return

I propose an article on the Swiss tax return. Having worked through it on two occasions, I believe others would benefit from a descriptive guide. I believe this would not only benefit those working through the return forms, but also act as a springboard to the various tax related topics. I am willing to initiate. Pmacaodh (talk) 08:21, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, there's already Taxation in Switzerland. An article about the tax return (you mean the document?) would probably duplicate that to the extent it wouldn't conflict with WP:NOTHOWTO. And what's more, each of the 26 cantons has its own tax return form.  Sandstein  08:30, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
OK. Thanks for the link to the guidelines. I don't think it would be productive to provide an instruction manual either - this is provided with the return anyway. I have seen the Taxation in Switzerland article also, but it falls short of covering all of the areas one needs to consider in a return. For example, 'Eigenmietwert' is a foreign concept to many. It's mentioned on the DE Wikipedia, but not the EN version. Perhaps Wikipedia is not the right forum for such an esoteric topic though. However, the DE Wikipedia does approach it. [1]. In my opinion this method of structuring along Federal, Cantonal and Local levels is a better way to organise the information, rather than by tax categories. Perhaps, 'Tax Return' is not the right title. 'System' or 'Law' as used in the DE article would be more appropriate. Pmacaodh (talk) 13:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Portals in French not yet in English

Here are some Switzerland-related portals not yet in English, but are in French:

WhisperToMe (talk) 20:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I think en.wiki portals for places within Switzerland would be a good idea. There are actually already more such portals in de.wiki than in fr.wiki - see de:Kategorie:Portal (Schweiz) - and also one such portal in it.wiki - see it:Portale:Ticino. There are also already en.wiki portals for, eg, Bavaria, Milan, Tyrol (recently created), and Vienna.

The problem is that it's not sufficient for an editor merely to create a portal (or translate one from fr.wiki, de.wiki, or it.wiki). It's also necessary for an editor to accept responsibility for keeping it going ... Bahnfrend (talk) 12:00, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Isn't it possible to set up a portal that simply cycles between things like Articles of the day, trivia, without maintenance needed? Then public interest can do the rest of the job. For instance I noticed that Portal:Government of the United States had outdated content. I simply posted it in many appropriate venues (as the portal creator had not done), and the portal lit up like a Christmas tree. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:19, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
It looks like you can do that. Why don't you give it a try? Usually it's pretty easy to create a new en.wiki article about a Swiss topic. You just translate its de.wiki, fr.wiki, or it.wiki equivalent, using google translator if required. However, my brief researches indicate that creating a portal is a bit more difficult. You need to go to Wikipedia:Portal/Instructions and follow what it says. Maybe you could start with Geneva, using the fr and de portals for Geneva as inspirations rather than as a basis for a straight translation. Bahnfrend (talk) 08:24, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Well, I guess I could try that. On a weekend or some time when I have a lot of spare time I'll start on Geneva first :) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:16, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
I started Portal:Geneva WhisperToMe (talk) 00:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Article alerts

Wikipedia:WikiProject Switzerland/Article alerts has been created; generating Article alerts for this WikiProject. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:26, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Unsourced speculative edits by anonymous

The currently blocked anonymous 2.224.12.20 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has a history of problematic edits to articles about Germany, in which he/she repeatedly added unsourced information about administrative subdivisions that may become effective in the (distant) future, but doesn't reflect the current situation. Since he/she also edited several articles on Swiss administrative subdivisions, could someone have a look at his/her contributions? Markussep Talk 11:22, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Liechtenstein-related articles

I've untagged the following articles as they are clearly not in the scope of WikiProject Switzerland (the main project page doesn't mention Liechtenstein anywhere and all these articles are already covered by Wikipedia:WikiProject European Microstates and Wikipedia:WikiProject Liechtenstein):

Toolserver replication lag

Just a note to inform the editors that we're having a huge replication lag at the moment (see related thread at the village pump) and it can be several days, if not weeks, before it gets back to normal. This means the external watchlist, among other things, is out of service for now. So in case there is something going on (discussion or other) in any Switzerland-related article do not hesitate to report it in this talk page. mgeo talk 21:47, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

"Toolserver performance is expected to improve on Friday" according to the Signpost. mgeo talk 21:22, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Good news, everything is working now. mgeo talk 11:09, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Zurich University of Applied Sciences - Edit

We would like to edit our article about the [University of Applied Science] so that it is of higher quality and easier to read. So far the article is not yielding that much. Our plan is to keep the paragraphs about our departments/faculties short in the main article. Therefor each department should get an own article. Furthermore we would like to add new chapters like „campus“, continuing education“ and „research“. Now it is the question: Which process would you prefer: pasting the changes one by one or all at once into the existing article? Zhaw CC (talk) 13:33, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

If you feel confident about your editing skills, then you may rewrite the article all at once. Of course you can do it in several edits if you prefer, but you have no obligation to do so. You can also propose your changes on the article's talk page before implementing them (this is recommended in a case of a major or controversial change but not strictly required, especially when simply expanding an article). mgeo talk 18:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Zurich Universitiy of Applied Sciences: wrong title

We just recognized that the title of the article “Zurich University of Applied Science” is wrong. The current title is the one of the ZHAW [2] (Zürcher Hochschule für Angewandte Wissenschaften)). This might cause confusion. The title should be: Zurich Universities of Applied Sciences and Arts. That is the correct designation for the ZFH (Zürcher Fachhochschule in German). According to our translator is the ZFH = Zurich Universities of Applied Sciences and Arts because this is the official term and it is in our terminology database.

How can we edit the title of this article?Zhaw CC (talk) 07:38, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

You can use the "move" function at the top of the page (direct link).  Sandstein  09:08, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Swiss red

I see that in many places across Wikipedia two different types of red are used when representing the Swiss flag (and the coat of arms). I think it would be nice to choose one and stick to it once and for all...Well, at least on English wiki.

The two three options are:

  • 1. Hexadecimal #FF0000
    1. Hexadecimal #FF0000
  • 2. Pantone 485
    2. Pantone 485
  • 3. RGB (216, 0, 0)
    3. RGB (216, 0, 0)

Thoughts? mgeo talk 08:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I personally far prefer the second one. --Île flottante (talk) 16:00, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
I personally far prefer the first... but I will try to find the correct Pantone colour from our firms records --Huligan0 (talk) 00:15, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Number 2 looks a lot closer to the real thing. MLauba (Talk) 01:21, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Here everything is explained precisely, therefore I suggest we stick to the guides designated hexadecimal RGB colour: #FF0000 for use on the Web. --Huligan0 (talk) 15:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Personally I would pick the second one, the color looks more natural to my eyes. mgeo talk 11:55, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
I just uploaded a third version, which seems closer to reality. Pure red as the first one but a little darker (216 instead of 255). Could it be a good compromise? mgeo talk 15:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Third one i think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Futbol vic (talk • contribs) 03:58, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, I see we are far from reaching a consensus here. I think the choice of the color is rather a matter of personal preference while using consistently the same flag in every article is objectively better and the File:Flag of Switzerland.svg can arguably be considered the default choice. So my proposition here is to use a bot to replace every File:Flag of Switzerland (Pantone).svg with the above-mentioned. Obviously we can always change it later if we can reach a consensus. mgeo talk 18:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

This was all sussed out ages ago with a great deal of effort by many people at Commons:File talk:Flag_of_Switzerland.svg (and with less specific contributions acquired over time by Commons:WikiProject Flags). Unfortunately due to the unilateral actions of a single administrator there, the file we had been using on Wikipedias for ages now has to be manually altered locally to that of file:flag of Switzerland (Pantone).svg (he moved the Pantone version from the normal file name to the (Pantone) one). This would be easy enough to fix on our end, but for the rampant "protection" of templates that deal with flags (among other things). (That is, an admin at Commons created the problem, and admins here at en make it hard to circumvent. :p) ¦ Reisio (talk) 11:51, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit war: colour of the Swiss flag and coat of arms (moved from Talk:Switzerland)

Lurid red: official logo of the (Federal Authorities of the) Swiss Confederation

Hello! Please note that the lurid red is the official red of the Swiss flag, coat of arms and the official logo of the Federal Authorities of the Swiss Confederation. On my discussion page you can read something about the right color. I can not understand why my changes have been always reset. You can see the logo on the website of the Federal Authorities of the Swiss Confederation (and for example in the “CD-Manual”; “CD” means “Corporate Design”). — PsY.cHo, 13:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

You’re referring to this document; on the third page you will find the image you’ve used on your talk page (and here to the right), which is used as an example of the "Bundeslogo" (which is not a flag, in case you hadn’t noticed), and on the fourth page you will find the Pantone and other color values used for manufacturing actual physical flags, among other things. ¦ Reisio (talk) 18:56, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
...now this - is what I call a really weird discussion. Obviously Switzerland must be a very, very happy place, indeed.[3]
Although I have seen flags of both colours on buildings in Switzerland - this → [4] seems to support your version.--IIIraute (talk) 13:47, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
There is a law on state symbols under discussion in the Federal Assembly (09.086, Markenschutzgesetz. Änderung sowie Swissness-Vorlage; BBl 2009 8693). If adopted, as seems likely (it was unopposed in the first chamber), it will define the flag's color in annex 1 (p. 8704) as all of the following: CMYK 0 / 100 / 100 / 0, Pantone 485 C / 485 U, RGB 255 / 0 / 0, Hexadezimal #FF0000, Scotchcal 100 -13, RAL 3020 Verkehrsrot, NCS S 1085-Y90R. So there will be more options to choose from ... although I myself have no problem with using any one or several of these official reds across Wikipedia.  Sandstein  17:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
I've found this in de:Fahne und Wappen der Schweiz:
The top left color corresponds to the bright red (version 1) and the central color corresponds to the pantone version (#2) that we actually use in the articles Switzerland and Swiss flag (although it seems slightly different). Do you or someone else know if theses colors correspond to the ones mentioned in the document about the law on state symbols by any chance? I guess CMYK 0 / 100 / 100 / 0 = Hexadezimal #FF0000 = RGB 255 / 0 / 0, but I've no idea about the others. mgeo talk 21:01, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Pantone 485 C translates as D52B1E; so does Pantone 485 U. source User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:14, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
Indeed, we have the color right already; the only problem is that because the flag was changed at commons and protected by admins who won't alter it, and the templates using flags here at en are protected by admins who won't alter them, we're using more than one version throughout the wiki. ¦ Reisio (talk) 00:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Maybe a RFC would be the best way to settle this issue. I see we have several options here: allow any version of the flag to be used across wikipedia (as suggested by Sandstein) or to use consistently only one of the versions proposed above (as many editors seem to suggest). Does it seem a good idea? mgeo talk 20:45, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
To me it seems premature. PsY.cHo is the only one who seems to have been bothered enough to take action in recent history, and though he hasn’t responded, it’s pretty clear IMO by the information detailed above that he was simply not in possession of all the facts. Wikis are always subject to change forward and backwards. If you want a single image across Wikipedia you need but find an administrator motivated enough to change the "protected" flag templates for you. ¦ Reisio (talk) 21:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Actually I wasn't thinking of doing it really soon and I think I'd like to see more input from other editors before starting one. But the thing is, if we want to run a bot to change every "File:Flag of Switzerland.svg" to File:Flag of Switzerland (Pantone).svg" (or vice versa) across English wikipedia, we'll probably need to have a better organized discussion than this one. Of course, if everyone agrees with one version then it'll be unnecessary to have a RFC, but that doesn't seem to be the case right now. mgeo talk 12:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
You seem to still be missing a couple key concepts and what they mean to this issue:
  1. The "Pantone version" is actually the status quo. Before user:Zscout370 changed the file image:flag of Switzerland.svg at Commons, it had been (note filename & color) for (at least) over four years a consistent representation of the Swiss flag using its Pantone equivalent color.
    What this means:
    1. you don’t need a discussion to revert to the status quo, not when there was no discussion for departing from it (for starters).
    2. it’s a lot of work to fix a bad change at Commons without being able to revert the change at Commons (this is what brings us here)
  2. The vast majority of Swiss flag instances on this wiki are included via templates.
    What this means:
    1. the templates are "protected" from editing, so you have to get an admin to make the changes.
    2. if you can get an admin to make the changes, it’s not actually that much work for a non-bot.
¦ Reisio (talk) 18:26, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, the reality now is that we have two versions used across wikipedia (English wiki to be precise) since the main flag file was changed to its actual color more than two years ago. So I think it makes sense to ask the community if there is one of the two flags that they prefer before starting to replace them in every article or template page. mgeo talk 23:38, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
It doesn’t. If they cared they would have done something about it as PsY.cHo or myself have. Please don’t make me re-type all of this nonsense just so you can shepherd an RfC that nobody’s interested in; there are better things to do with your time and mine. WP:RFC#Before_requesting_comment ¦ Reisio (talk) 00:10, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Template:CH — incorrect coat of arms

See also: Template talk:Infobox Canton § Incorrect use of coat of arms

Hello! Please edit the above named template because the now used coat of arms of the cantons of Basel-Landschaft and St. Gallen are incorrect (see the link above). Coat of arms of Kanton Basel-Landschaft.svg should renamed in Coat of arms of Kanton Basel-Landschaft.svg and Wappen St. Gallen matt.svg in Coat of arms of canton of St. Gallen.svg. Further information: bl.ch and sg.ch. Thank you. — PsY.cHo, 14:49, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Swiss Thermoelectric Society STS

The Swiss Thermoelectric Society was founded in 2012 at Empa. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:620:D:4254:4953:262D:6350:1E23 (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

German versus Swiss-German

Most "German"-speaking Swiss don't speak German very well. They speak first and foremost one of the many variants of Swiss-German but learn to read and write German in school. Virtually any and all written and printed communication is in German. At present there isn't enough emphasys that Swiss-German is a family of Alemannic languages, radically different from German. Often no distinction is made which may be misleading. AndreasCA (talk) 16:49, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Which articles are you looking at? Where is it misleading. My own OR is that just about every Swiss-German speaker understands standard German well. While they may speak a local dialect together, they can understand and respond in German quite easily. Additionally, most statistics only give numbers for German speakers, not for Swiss-German and standard German speakers. So saying that the statistic means Swiss-German when it only says German is quite misleading as it will lump German only speakers into Swiss-German. Tobyc75 (talk) 20:11, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect coat of arms

Please change all old versions of the coat of arms into the newer one, for example in the Template Infobox Canton and Template Cantons of Switzerland. See also: Website of St. Gallen and Basel-Landschaft. Thank you. — PsY.cHo, 09:30, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Service area of school

The service area of Gymnase intercantonal de la Broye is Broye-Vully district in Vaud canton and Broye district in Fribourg canton and the full list of municipalities is located here: http://www.gyb.ch/fileadmin/images/references/Aire_communes_new.gif - http://www.webcitation.org/6B3BsXEZ0 - See smaller map: http://www.gyb.ch/aire-de-recrutement-ai.jpg - http://www.webcitation.org/6B3C7tnOB

But which areas are within Broye-Vully district in Vaud canton and Broye district in Fribourg canton?

Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 23:05, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Granit Xhaka/Taulant Xhaka

As stated in many interviews, Granit and Tauland Xhakas parents immigrated to Switzerland 23 years ago. Therefore both of them were born in Basel, Switzerland and not in Gnijlane, Kosovo. Swissgamewonder (talk) 17:26, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Dear Swissgamewonder, sorry but your information is totally incorrect. I know the family personally, Taulant was born in Pristina and Granit was born in Gnjilane. The family moved to Kaiseraugst in the early 90's, but the exact date is unknown. Greetings --Huligan0 (talk) 20:28, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
You must know the family very well, when you know better than Granit himself, where he was born. For all the swiss-german speaking in this forum in this video http://www.videoportal.sf.tv/video?id=2d0807b7-827f-43f0-b23d-868112ce1041 on 2:40 he says clearly, that he was born in BASEL and that his family lives there since 23 years. Swissgamewonder (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Sali Swissgamewonder, y bi au ainer der Baslerdütsch schpricht (wyl y au dört daheime bi) und y ha au de Sendig gseh (denn, aber mit es vyli Lachle us de Zuschauerräng cha mir jo Glaube was mir will)... Si Vater lebt sit dreiezwanzg Johr z'Basel, stimmt, si Frau isch erscht nochane au noch Basel cho. Du hesch ins Dütsche-Wiki de Geburtsort geändert (09.09.2012 um 18:50) und ganau sit denn gibts au dört es Wiki-Diskussion Siite "falscher Geburtsort". Y ha mi immer us de "Xhaka Herchumfst Ort/Land" Striet use chalte und wirds au eso wiiter halte und melde mi somit ab. Es Gryssli us Münggestai bi Basel --Huligan0 (talk) 17:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:V makes it clear - it is not truth, but verifiability which is the deciding criterion. If the newspaper says he is born in A, he is born in A. If this is a mistake, he must make efforts to correct it. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:14, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Suisse Romande

Suisse Romande needs sources... WhisperToMe (talk) 01:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Lost umlaut

Does everyone in this project endorse "Zurich" without the Umlaut? I have the feeling that this dates back to the dark ages of the ASCII character set which made it next to impossible for people to find them on their keyboards. The Häagen-Dasz brand was established in 1961 (in New York), so I would venture to say that at least the ä has been around for 51 years in the English-language cosmos. My suggestion is to handle Zürich just like Düsseldorf is handled: with the umlaut. Itla66 (talk) 08:21, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

The short answer to your question is "no". I, for one, prefer Zürich. However, it's not as simple an issue as you suggest. The Wikipedia article naming conventions include the maxim "use English". If reliable English-language sources, including printed sources, use umlauts or diacritics, etc, in the name of a city, then the umlauts, diacritics, etc, can also be used on Wikipedia. See WP:DIACRITICS. For example, Düsseldorf is often referred to in English language sources with the umlaut, so the umlaut can also be, and is, used in Wikipedia. An similar example (from Portuguese) is São Paulo. On the other hand, European cities that were well known to English speakers many years ago, and either transliterated or referred to without umlauts, diacritics, etc, are generally still transliterated and/or spelled without the umlauts or diacritics. Examples include of this alternative practice include Nuremberg (Nürnberg in German) and Rome (Roma in Italian). Unfortunately, it is possible to put Zürich/Zurich into both of these alternative categories, and therefore its correct spelling, for the purposes of Wikipedia, is controversial. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
But let's at least keep the spelling consistent within any given article. Jjgw (talk) 17:17, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
technically, if not spelled with the umlaut, it should be spelled " Zuerich ". Anywhere in the German language an umlaut is used and transliterated into English, the vowel u is then transformed to include an 'e' in order to compensate... That is grammatically correct, you can confirm that on the Zuerich airport website. Haagen Dazs used the umlaut to give effect to a product in order to have a "European" flare for use in marketing and perception, much like Victoria's Secret used the London tag for years but only opened a store there in 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.1.195.80 (talk) 21:54, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Copyright concerns related to your project

This notice is to advise interested editors that a Contributor copyright investigation has been opened which may impact this project. Such investigations are launched when contributors have been found to have placed copyrighted content on Wikipedia on multiple occasions. It may result in the deletion of images or text and possibly articles in accordance with Wikipedia:Copyright violations. The specific investigation which may impact this project is located here.

All contributors with no history of copyright problems are welcome to contribute to CCI clean up. There are instructions for participating on that page. Additional information may be requested from the user who placed this notice, at the process board talkpage, or from an active CCI clerk. Thank you. Liamdavies (talk) 15:05, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Wrong terminology about Swiss votations

There is a generally wrong use of terminology (mix of the popular iniciative and the term referendum) for the Swiss votations in the English Wikipedia. See for this See therefore Swiss Federal Constitution Art 138. As my native language is not English, it is difficult for me tho discuss this probleme and correct the mistaks. It would be necessary to review all tose articles and especially their titles! It is in the sense of Swiss law important to distinguish between votations about referendums and votations about popular iniciatives!DidiWeidmann (talk) 22:47, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

To save confusion (as this is being cross-posted in several places), the main discussion seems to be taking place at User talk:DidiWeidmann. Number 57 23:22, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Swiss tourist rape in India

Do we have an article on the Swiss tourist rape in India? -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 23:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Common mistakes to avoid

I was thinking of adding somewhere on the page something about the recurring mistakes that many editors do in Switzerland-related articles. For instance there are four official languages in Switzerland (but I guess you already knew that...) and I've seen some people adding all four translations for places that are not multilingual (like here, there are probably many other examples). There is also another one with languages, replacing German, French with Swiss German, Swiss French etc. when official languages are discussed. I'm sure there are plenty of other recurring mistakes that could be added, but these two look the most striking to me. Maybe we should have a section "Common mistakes to avoid" (a bit like Wikipedia:Avoiding common mistakes) and list them there. mgeo talk 19:23, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Bambini-code

Hi, there is a discussion on notability of the Bambini code once used by the Swiss Air Force at Talk:Bambini-Code#Notability. You might like to contribute. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 12:36, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Infobox Swiss town

There's discussion at Infobox Swiss town that I would appreciate some WikiProject input. Another editor and I disagree on whether the Infobox should be a wrapper for Infobox Settlement or not and on whether Infobox Swiss town former is necessary or not. Our discussion is laid out on the talk page and on his talk page. However, I think we're just going to go around and around in circles. So, since this is the community that will be affected by these templates, I'd like your opinions on this matter. Thanks Tobyc75 (talk) 11:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Multi RM

I think this only affects one Swiss station? But FYI the multi-RM for 121 German and Austrian stations is at Talk:Kaiserslautern Central Station. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Neighbour municipalities

In several articles, at least in Fribourg which has undergone heavy municipality mergers over the past decade, the neighbours listed tend to include localities that have since then been merged. An example is eg. Lully, Fribourg, its infobox listing as neighbours Estavayer-le-Lac and Font, the latter since merged with the former, and Seiry, which merged with Lully in 2005 and is part of the municipality itself - although the locality Seiry indeed borders the locality Lully within the larger municipality.

It's confusing - should it be made more explicitly prescriptive? MLauba (Talk) 06:51, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Contested changes to Immigration to Switzerland

A user who appears interested in articles about Switzerland recently undid all my changes to the Immigration to Switzerland article giving this edit summary: "politically motivated and to be questioned changes without providing explicit summary". I don't know what he meant with "to be questioned"; especially since he did not leave a message on the article's talk or even to me, but I invite all members of this WikiProject to read the article and see if there are any instances of political bias in it. When I expanded the article I actively tried to avoid any politically questionable sources, but perhaps my judgement was not sufficiently strict.--Tusslemon (talk) 19:41, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Paolo Giubellino

Please help improve the new article about Paolo Giubellino (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) - the man leading the Large Ion Collider Experiment Collaboration. Many thanks in anticipation. Dandandandandandandan (talk) 06:30, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update

As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at tools:~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at toollabs:popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man) 05:29, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Incomplete lists of mayors of places in Switzerland

In the category description, there is a link to find lists that don't include all mayors since 1900 (currently 22). Obviously earlier incumbents would be interesting as well, but one has to start with something.

Additional lists are welcome. Please create only lists with at least five office holders. Some missing ones can be found here. -- 签名 sig at 11:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)


AfD List of mayors of Ilanz

There is a AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mayors of Ilanz. If one wants to bother discussing a non US place with non English language officials. -- 签名 sig at 20:37, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Living people on EN wiki who are dead on other wikis

The following individuals who are in the scope of this project are showing to be alive on the English wiki, but deceased on another language wiki:

  1. Kurt Schmid: de:Gestorben 2000 / no:Dødsfall i 2000 / sl:Umrli leta 2000
  2. Markus Gähler: de:Gestorben 1997

Please help to find reliable sources to confirm if these individuals are alive or dead, or correct any mis-categorization on the relevant foreign-language article(s). Please see WP:LIVINGDEAD for more info and raise any issues on the talkpage. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:02, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses

Pleas add information about this country to this articles.--Kaiyr (talk) 09:30, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Tiefencastel derailment

Assistance is sought in expanding the Tiefencastel derailment article from French, German and Italian language sources. Mjroots (talk) 19:27, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

NOT Station Eigerwand

This article repeatedly incorrectly mentions Station Eigerwand, whereas the correct place name is the Stollenloch. The Stollenloch is on the western part of the Eiger North-West face - Station Eigerwand is on the eastern part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.152.78 (talk) 12:10, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Historical artworks to illustrate articles

Hi! Last week, about a thousand or more artworks from the 18th century have been imported on Commons. Their aim was to "capture Swiss landscapes and characteristic genre scenes". Some images would certainly shine in their corresponding articles! See Commons:Category:Collection Gugelmann. :-) Dodoïste (talk) 19:42, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Matterhorn 150th anniversary

...at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mountains#Matterhorn 150th anniversary. ZachG (Talk) 17:20, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Schüblig?

The Schüblig stub may need some knowledgeable attention. Talk:Schüblig has further detail. --Kevjonesin (talk) 20:55, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Private schools and WP:SOAP

Please see this discussion on whether the Zurich International School (a private school) should be listed in the commune of Adliswil: Talk:Adliswil#Private_schools_and_Adliswil - The other believes that mentioning private schools in a city article is WP:SOAP while I argue that doing so is not WP:SOAP. The edit in question. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:13, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Rafz train crash

The Rafz train crash article has been created. Needs articles in French and German creating if any editor is up to the challenge. Mjroots (talk) 18:51, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

The German article was made but a French one is still needed. Italian may be desired too. WhisperToMe (talk) 12:59, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Change name of "Category:High schools in Switzerland"?

What should the name of Category:High schools in Switzerland be changed to? Should it be b? Should there be a catch-all category that also includes vocational schools? Like the German schooling system the Swiss schooling system has different types of upper secondary schools. Also: How would international schools (International Baccalaureate and French, Japanese, Russian, German, and American education systems) fit into this scheme? WhisperToMe (talk) 10:19, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

This is a can of worms. The parent category appears to be Category:High schools and secondary schools by country where half the cats use the High school term to refer to schools in the secondary phase of education 11-19. As a rule of thumb I would use High School to refer to countries that adopt the US model and Secondary Schools for ones that follow the British model- with O levels/A levels or Bac equivalent. Thus in German category Category:Secondary schools in Germany, would contain a subcatCategory:High schools in Germany for the ex- military occupation schools that still exist and follow a US highschool model. Category:Mittelschulen in Switzerland is wrong as it is a specific term, some UK counties (Cambridgeshire) and German länder had middle schools that crossed the traditional KS2- KS3 watershed (11 Jahre alt). They were (6-13). A German Mittelschule would be 10-14 (in places). I have seen Middle school refer to schools up to 16- but never higher. (A UK problem was that a Kent High School was a euphemism for a secondary modern school while in the neighbouring county post 1968 it refered to an creamed all -ability school).
For the German speaking kantons, Sekundarstufe is the correct term: implying Category:Secondary schools in Switzerland is a better term- but is it really worth the trouble?
Back to Switzerland, all the schools need to be checked for links- ZB Gymnasium wlinks to an article that doesn't have a section on Swiss Gymnasiums- though mentions their existence. There are a large number of references to grades- when referring to the class that a child is in- but not their age which is meaningless in the UK. As this is common- perhaps we should write a Convert Template- to render both USgrade|age|UK Year Group|French year name. It would defuse a potential issue.
You took the trouble to ask- so I have replied but have no strong opinions. Best of luck.-- Clem Rutter (talk) 15:37, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
This just to everybody’s general understanding about naming issues in education in Switzerland, and the German-speaking Switzerland in particular:
Education is subject to every canton’s own competence. Nevertheless there is a harmonizing initiative going on, called Harmos. Besides, until about 20 years ago, some cantons started the school year in Spring, while others started in Autumn. At least, all cantons start their school year in Autumn nowadays. For a general overview see the first graphic in Education in Switzerland.
For the sake of completeness: the first 11 years (age 4-14) of school is often called Volksschule, since it is the mandatory part of schooling and organized by the state (aka canton), and normally consists of 2 years Kindergarten, 6 years primary school (Primarschule) and 3 years lower secondary education aka Sekundarschule (or sometimes also referred to as Sekundarstufe I). But this can (still) differ from canton to canton.
The upper secondary education takes part either 4 or 5 years (age 15-18/19).
The German term Mittelschule (not to be mismatched with the British(?) middle school) can cover both, the whole, lower and upper secondary education (7 years, Sekundarstufe I & II, age 12-18/19), or only the upper secondary education aka Sekundarstufe II (4 or 5 years, age 15-18/19), but rarely used as such in public. So, Mittelschule is a general term (Oberbegriff) for several instances, such as Kantonsschule (lit.: cantonal school, public school by the state), or Gymnasium (can be public or private), or Lyzeum (sometimes pronounces the catholic background of such an institution), or even such terms as Spezsek (short for Spezialsekundarschule). Or in Latin languages spoken cantons also called lycée (cantons of NE/JU), or liceo (canton TI), or collège (cantons of GE/VS/JU), or collège/Kollegium (canton of FR), or simply gymnase (canton of VD). ;-))
All these terms again can refer to either, Sekundarstufe II, or Sekundarstufe I & II. But in public, Sekundarschule is synonymous for the first, lower part of secondary education only! And this can (still) differ from canton to canton.
But all these terms, Mittelschule, Kantonsschule, Gymnasium, Spezsek, and Lyzeum always refer to schools with the final graduation of a Matura, in other words the preparation for tertiary education at an university (only 20-30% of all students in Switzerland). If these terms cover both secondary parts, then it is called e.g. a Lang(zeit)gymnasium (Lang(zeit) = long term), and if it covers only the second part, then it is also called e.g. a Kurz(zeit)gymnasium (Kurz(zeit) = short term).
And since Mittelschule is a general term, I thought it is a good candidate. Gymnasium can be used synonymous with Mittelschule. But not every Mittelschule is a Kantonsschule. And Mittelschule is usually used as the generally valid term in German Switzerland.
BTW: High school is a bad term in Swiss context, also since its literal translation in German means: Hochschule. And Hochschule is the general term for universities and the like!
Hope this is now more understandable. Otherwise ask! ;-) -- ZH8000 (talk) 00:26, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
We need to bear in mind that Switzerland has four official languages, of which (Swiss) German is just one. For that reason alone, Category:Mittelschulen in Switzerland would not be a good idea. On the other hand, Category:Secondary schools in Switzerland, which fits within the general schema of Category:High schools and secondary schools by country, appears to be a better translation than the existing Category:High schools in Switzerland, not only of the (Swiss) German terminology, but also of the French terminology (see fr:Catégorie:École secondaire en Suisse). Not sure about the other two languages - is anyone able to comment? Bahnfrend (talk) 13:42, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
We could go with "Upper secondary schools in Switzerland" as a category if referring specifically to education of those 14-15 years through 18-19 years. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:49, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
@Bahnfrend. You are right about the different national languages. The task is not getting easier ;-)
"Secondary school" is not a good candidate, since its literal translation into German is "Sekundarschule", which refers, as I mentioned above, only to the lower secondary school and explicitely not the Matura path, and it belongs to the Sekundarstufe I.
"Upper secondary school" is also a bad candidate, since a "Mittelschule", again as I wrote above, can cover both Sekundarstufe II aka Kurzeitmittelschule (that would be correct), but also Sekundarstufe I & II aka Langzeitmittelschule.
So I propose a very typical Swiss solution: let's use all relevant terms "Mittelschule/Ecole moyenne/Scuola media" instead of just "Mittelschule" (in plural: "Mittelschulen/Ecoles moyennes/Scuole medie") as given by Swiss law on Mittelschule/Ecole moyenne/Scuole medie: SR Art 413.
So the category "Category:High schools in Switzerland" could be moved to "Category:Mittelschulen/Ecoles moyennes/Scuole medie in Switzerland".
And the "Template:Zurich Canton Mittelschule" schould be moved to "Template:Mittelschule/Ecole moyenne/Scuola media in canton of Zurich". -- ZH8000 (talk) 17:02, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
One thing that American editors do with multi-level schools is to put them in all applicable categories. A K-8 school (covering both lower secondary and elementary school) may be "elementary school in XXX" and "middle school in XXX" - A 6-12 school (lower and upper secondary) may be "middle school in XXX" and "high school in XXX" - And a K-12 (elementary through upper secondary) would get all three categories. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:09, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Wrong Category

Hello, i found this article BDP Graubünden, and the category is not right. I am from Germany, and i believe, you can do it better. --MannMaus (talk) 17:08, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Attention needed, generally (issue identified at Rheinfelden article)

There appears to be a general issue with the "{{Infobox Swiss town…}}" design and markup.

Editors have to be able to verify information and change citations styles at the article. There is a discrepancy that appears in the data in the infobox—the Area appearing in the article does not match what is typed into the edit area. At the same time, a citation is associated with this infobox datum, but the citation markup does not appear in the infobox: reference [1] appears in the infobox, but its markup does not appear there, in the edit area. The result is that this link, "Arealstatistik Standard - Gemeindedaten nach 4 Hauptbereichen" cannot be edited to be consistent in formatting with the rest of the article.

Citations that appear in the article are somehow nested in (hidden by) the infobox template. This needs to change. All sources for articles need to be edit-ready for general editors, and cannot require specialist skills related to infobox markup. [The citation markup needs to visibly appear in EVERY article editing area, at the face (without searching the infobox space, or needing to edit the parent inforbox).]

As it stands, the very first citation of this article cannot be checked/altered/improved by editors with general skill sets. Moreover, this "hidden source" is URL only, in contravention of WP policies.

Le Prof, User:LeProf_7272 71.201.62.200 (talk) 00:04, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

AfC submission

See Draft:Rütschi. Best, FoCuS contribs; talk to me! 19:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Hansjörg Wyss

I posted a message on the Hansjörg Wyss Talk page late last month suggesting a few changes to the Early life section of the article. Wyss is a prominent Swiss-born businessman and conservationist, so I thought editors here might be interested in taking a look.

I prepared the draft on behalf of Wyss' foundation, so I prefer not to make edits myself. I'm hoping an editor here can review and let me know their thoughts. If it looks to be an improvement over the current article, I also ask that another editor make the changes. Eager to hear others' feedback. Thanks! Heatherer (talk) 17:30, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi again. Just following up to say the above request has been taken care of, but I have a new draft for editors to look at that covers Wyss' personal life. The draft is located here and there are more details over on the Talk page. Thanks! Heatherer (talk) 15:13, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

National Council

The article on the national council contains some mistakes:

  1. Under "Proportional Voting": each candidate can be mentioned twice, not "with up to one candidate being voted for twice" as is currently written in the article.
  2. The green party is definitely not "centre-left" as they are more left than the SP.

Riselin (talk) 08:34, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Proposed disambiguation of Southern Alps (New Zealand) and Southern Alps (Europe)

Currently Southern Alps is an article about a mountain range in New Zealand and Southern Alps (Europe) is about the range in the south of the Alps. So there is a move request to move the former to Southern Alps (New Zealand) and make Southern Alps the disambiguation page, on the basis that the Southern Alps of Europe are at least as notable as the Southern Alps of New Zealand. See Talk:Southern Alps#Requested move 30 November 2015. Bermicourt (talk) 12:08, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Naming a Swiss article

I recently came across Reformierte Kirche Rüti and did some copy editing on it. I struck me that it should be called something like Rüti Reformed Church. I've posted on the talk page, but would appreciate any comments on this. Robevans123 (talk) 17:55, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Sarine District

Would someone please check recent edits at this article. Apparently some municipalities were merged to form a new municipality of Gibloux. However, templates such as {{Swiss area data}} need to be updated with the new information. Until that happens, the article is displaying an error ("Incorrect Municipal Code 1 2,236"). If wanted, I could help with any technical issues but it needs someone to check the underlying situation and confirm what's going on. Johnuniq (talk) 23:04, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

If you're after validation that the merger did happen, then yes, the merger was voted in 2014 and has been effective since Jan 1st this year, and the new SFOS number for Gibloux is 2236. The articles of all 5 municipalities that merged will probably also need to be updated. Tobyc75 has been maintaining the underlying data templates for several years now. MLauba (Talk) 23:54, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Biopôle

I updated the information present on the Biopôle page. The content was outdated and I hope the updated info can help improve the quality of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manu17j (talk • contribs) 14:39, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

NLA Playoff Qualification

There is something clearly incorrect about the playoff tie-breaker rules listed for National League A. Under what's posted for 2015–16 NLA season, SC Bern should have lost nearly every tie-breaker to Lausanne HC. Yet, SC Bern is the one that made the playoffs and Lausanne HC went to the relegation round. Someone please find the correct rules. (saint0wen (talk) 18:31, 25 March 2016 (UTC))

Swiss Federal Councillor template

The URLs and IDs used by {{Swiss Federal Councillor}} are defunct. Please see its talk page. I have disabled the template's display until the matter is resolved. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:02, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

I fixed it and enabled it again. --Novarupta (talk) 15:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

The Wil (SG) page shows a wrong map displaying Wil (ZH)

This is probably a minor thing, but I'm not sure if it is produced by wrong content or a bug in Wikipedia, so I'm unsure how to fix this. The mobile page on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wil (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wil) produces an image displaying the wrong town of Wil (ZH) instead of Wil (SG):

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wil#/media/File%3AKarte_Gemeinde_Wil.png

Hope this helps Lukas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukaseder (talk • contribs) 05:28, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the message! I fixed it, the problem was that Wil's "new" (since 2013) municipality code was missing in Template:SFOS2Municipality, which is used by Template:Infobox Swiss town to determine which file names to look for on Commons. Because of this, it didn't find the correct map (named Karte Gemeinde Wil SG.png), but only the one you linked to. --Novarupta (talk) 08:51, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to Women in Food and Drink editathon


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Category:Underpopulated Switzerland categories

FYI a new category Category:Underpopulated Switzerland categories has been added for the benefit of this wikiproject. Ottawahitech (talk) 13:00, 15 November 2016 (UTC)please ping me

Requested move of "Carl Jung"

Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:Carl Jung#Requested move 14 November 2016, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks,  Paine  u/c 01:34, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages

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Split discussion for Switzerland during the World Wars

I have proposed that the article Switzerland during the World Wars be split into two separate articles. The discussion can be found here. Input from other WikiProject members would be appreciated. -Indy beetle (talk) 05:26, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Switzerland men's national inline hockey team

Is this notable? Bearian (talk) 22:21, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Question for the Project Swiss folks

I have a draft for an entry on a living Swiss academic named Paolo Knill. I came across him and his German page (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Knill) while researching for something else. So my draft is mostly a translation using the same sources, with minor modifications. I assume that the guidelines between the German language and English language wiki's are different. Would anyone here be willing to take a second look at it before I submit for review? Many thanks!Wildgraf quinn (talk) 15:34, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Notice about adminship to participants at this project

Many participants here create a lot of content, may have to evaluate whether or not a subject is notable, decide if content complies with BLP policy, and much more. Well, these are just some of the skills considered at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.

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Weggis or Lucerne?

There is a discussion taking place on Talk:List of people from Lucerne regarding the wrestler Cesaro / Claudio Castagniolo's birthplace. Most sources say Lucerne, though some sources say Weggis which is a small town in the district of Lucerne. Any input would be most welcome. SilkTork ✔Tea time 16:07, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

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Roger Federer: Should we include the term "male" to Greatest of All-Time?

Since you are listed as a project of interest, please consider joining in the discussion on whether or not to include the term "male" to Greatest of All-time at Talk:Roger Federer. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Sandro del Prete

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Proposed deletion of Hermann Greulich

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Castle of La Bathia

Hey folks. Hoping someone can clue me in on this image. I'm assuming its in Switzerland since it's from the archives of the Swiss National Library, plus everything else in this set seems to be in the general area of Lake Geneva or therabouts. Per the description it's somewhere on the Rhone, but I haven't a clue where. Maybe that's the correct name and there just isn't an article, but the translation isn't always so great on the file descriptions, so it's just as likely that its something obvious I'm missing. TimothyJosephWood 19:05, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Hmm... actually... maybe it's La Bâtiaz Castle? TimothyJosephWood 20:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm 99% sure you're correct. I just looked at the image first and thought "Hey, that looks quite a bit like that tower near Martigny", and only then I looked at La Bâtiaz Castle, and saw that's what you suggested. So yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it. --Novarupta (talk) 12:26, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
I only now saw that according to the description on commons it even says "Martigny, environs. Château de la Bâtiaz" on the back side. So then we have certainty. --Novarupta (talk) 12:30, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

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"Statistic town"

There's been a little back-and-forth over at Altdorf, Uri, regarding the phrase "statistic town", which doesn't seem to be defined and certainly doesn't sound "right" to the average native English speaker (it's reminiscent of statistical area, but clearly not meant to be that). Edits by Ch-822 and ZH8000 brought this to my attention; I stepped in with a slightly different take, but generally agreed with Ch-822. ZH8000 is claiming that there's a consensus for the phrase's use. From cursory research, I get the sense that most or all instances of "statistic town" currently present in articles were created by ZH8000 him or herself, and I remain skeptical of the phrase's correctness or the existence of a consensus supporting it, but I wanted to move this issue out of edit-warring territory and into a proper forum. Comments, suggestions, and solid references are, of course, welcome. —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 14:42, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

JFYI: The term "statistic town" (or "statistical town") is a translation from German: Statistische Städte, or French: Villes statistiques, a recently (2014) introduced term by the Federal Statistical Office in order to designate places with a town-like character. According to the very federal feelings and political structures in Switzerland, the decision whether a place calls itself a town lies at the sake of the municipality's government. Altdorf (UR), for example, does not call itself a town (but Gemeinde, or municipality), despite being the main place aka capital of the canton of Uri. So therefore, it is informative to say that Altdorf is a "statistic(al) town" (but not a town!). Nothing else I have in mind. See also List of towns in Switzerland. -- 15:04, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
Besides, I think that "Statistische Stadt" translates preferably as statistic town comparable to statistic error, statistic report, or statistic average, rather than "statistical town". But I am not fixed here. -- ZH8000 (talk) 15:10, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm certainly not disputing the fact that Switzerland has an official definition of "town" and that it applies to Altdorf. I think we're just having a language barrier issue. "Statistics report", for instances, is vastly more common than "statistic report", and the other examples you site would have minor differences in meaning depending on if the presence of -s or -al. Speaking personally and without doing any special research, I would interpret "statistic error" (the variance in data) differently than "statistics error" (a misapplication of statistical data).
I'm pretty confident that most English speakers would say "statistic town" is meaningless and weird enough to grate. I don't really agree with Ch-822's suggestion of "statistics town" as being more meaningful. "Statistical town" would be better than either, but I'm not crazy about it. The most clear wording would be something along the lines of "both an historic and FSO-defined town", which is cumbersome and introduces a confusing acronym that has fairly little to do with Altdorf. Given that I'm not sure what an "historic town" means either, so I'm in favor of cutting all adjectives and just linking to List of towns in Switzerland, and let that article explain for anyone who needs clarification of what makes Altdorf a town. —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 17:43, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
James, you are probabaly quite right. But that is not the point here. "Statistische Stadt"/"ville statistique" is (probably) an invention by FSO. It sounds even strange in German, and probably in French, as well. Nevertheless, that's the term FSO officially use. And I am pretty confident that statistic town is IMHO the correct translation. To expect that it sounds common in English is therefore unreasonable and no surprise at all that it sounds strange. Therefore, strangeness can not be an counterargument. And of course, you will not find it with any kind of search in any document before 2014 – and virtually nowhere in the English speaking world so far! And exactly therefore I find it important to make the distinction between town and statistic town in the Swiss context. The link to the [[List of towns in Switzerland]] is therefore the right way to link statistic towns.
My understanding is that it's supposed to signify that it is a town according to statistical conventions therefore that might be a phrase to use but I agree it's a very strange way of saying it. Maybe "it is statistically a town" or "A town in the statistical sense" would make the meaning of "Statistische Stadt" clear while avoiding the issue of a direct translation. One could therefore leave the German phrase and simply explain it in parentheses. Just my opinion, take it or leave it :) RedOctober483 (talk) 07:56, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
BTW: the term historic town is totally unrelated to the term statistic town, and must not be intermingled with each other; they are two totally different attributes of a (Swiss) town! -- ZH8000 (talk) 22:46, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
While I'm mulling over the 'Statistische Stadt' translation, could you elaborate on the 'historic' town? I can't tell if that's legally defined also, or just a way of saying the town is old. Thanks —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 00:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Remove Jacques Abbadie from 'Swiss People'

Jacques Abbadie has been listed as a Swiss person. He was born in Nay in Béarn in France, and I found no evidence of Swiss heritage. This might come from an apparent error in the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica where it is stated that he was born in 'Nay in Bern', when all other sources which I have found cite Nay in Béarn (France). Looks like an error based on a typo. Eiamjw (talk) 15:04, 22 November 2017 (UTC)eiamjw

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject

Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

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"Canton of X"

On 11 Feb 2018 ZH8000 moved all canton articles that were at "NameX" to "Canton of NameX" (e.g. Appenzell Ausserrhoden→Canton of Appenzell Ausserrhoden) with the edit summary: "the geographical or cultural region NameX is not necessarily the congruent with the canton of NameX". I think this was ill advised and would like a Wikipedia:Requested moves to revert them all. I thought I would check here first. As far as I can see all the relevant "NameX" pages are still simply redirects to the longer name "Canton of NameX"; there is no evidence of the creation of any separate "geographical or cultural region" article that might justify a disambiguated title for the "canton" article. jnestorius(talk) 14:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Jnestorius, whether there should be different articles for the political (canton) and geographical (region) entities, is indeed disputable. But, all 26 Swiss cantons are officially called "Canton of X" or even "Republic and canton of X", but never just simply "X". Though "X" is colloquially used that way, it is always inherently clear that "X" is just an abbreviation of the official, formal naming. And in order to take care of potential mismatching, I found it legitimate to make it obvious.
And in the particular case of A. there is indeed the danger to mismatch it. -- ZH8000 (talk) 20:19, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
And just to give a few examples: The Valle Mesolcina and the Val Calanca are politically part of the canton of the Grisons. But they obviously belong to the cultural and geographical part of the Ticino. Obviously, since language, geographical location ("on the south side"), habits, actually the whole culture etc are more or less the same as in the rest of the (cultural region) Ticino, but it does not belong to the canton of Ticino. The same is true for many other regions in Switzerland; most obvious example is the Jura: major parts of the Jura belongs to canton of Berne. Basel-Landschaft as (cultural) region usually includes several parts which belong to the canton of Soleure. And so forth ... . -- ZH8000 (talk) 21:10, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
A few points:
  1. It's not good practice to use one argument in an edit summary and then abandon that in favour of a completely different argument.
  2. Wikipedia goes by WP:COMMONNAME, not legal or official name. (in any case Ticino redirects to canton of Ticino not Republic and Canton of Ticino)
  3. I'm not sure what "potential mismatching" means. The Val Mesolcina article says "Although politically the Val Mesolcina belongs to the Grisons, its population is predominantly Italian-speaking and culturally oriented towards the Ticino." t seems to me to be a bigger potential mismatch that the linked article is called "Canton of Ticino" rather than "Ticino". It becomes easier to draw a distinction between the administrative and cultural areas of Ticino in a single article if the name is common to both.
I suggest you move all the articles back to their basic names. If you want to draw a distinction between the cultural area and the administrative area then in the first instance add that information to the same article. If it becomes long enough to refactor into a separate article then renaming can be addressed on a case by case basis. jnestorius(talk) 17:17, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with the requested revert - the changes make sense, in particular for all cantons where the name in itself is ambiguous. MLauba (Talk) 09:13, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
@MLauba: where the name is ambiguous (i.e. Jura and those cantons named after their capital city) the canton article was already at the "Canton of X" title before the changes by ZH8000 to which this discussion refers; so reverting ZH8000's moves would not affect them. jnestorius(talk) 10:48, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
I agree 100% with jnestorious, and in my opinion WP:COMMONNAME is very clear on this matter. Quote: Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used [...]. Unless it is necessary for disambiguation (e.g. Bern, Jura, ...), I see no reason to use "Canton of X" in the article titles. In the cases where the cultural region differs significantly from the political borders this can be mentioned in a section of the article, or perhaps in some cases a separate article for the cultural region is warranted (I personally doubt that). In any case, the mere existence of such differences is not a sufficient reason to not use the common names of the cantons for the canton articles. Novarupta (talk) 10:59, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

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"Genevan" as a nationality

User:Sapphorain, a Genevan, has a bee in his bonnet that for most of the early modern period the Republic of Geneva was a fully independent state with a nationality, and has been going around removing "Swiss" from bios of artists like Jean-Étienne Liotard and creating categories like Category:Artists from the Republic of Geneva and Category:Engravers from the Republic of Geneva under Category:People from the Republic of Geneva (1541–1815). Originally he removed these entirely from the Swiss biographical tree. ULAN and other sources just call these people "Swiss" and so should we. Whatever the technical legal situation in the 18th century, here as elsewhere we should use the equivalent modern nationalities for the main categories.

I've launched a CFD discussion to merge them back into the Swiss categories; personally I don't think they are necessary or useful even as sub-cats of the Swiss tree, especially if they are diffusing sub-cats. He has been removing all mention of "Swiss/Switzerland" from articles, and is adamant that 18th-century Genevans were not Swiss at all. This is potentially the thin end of a huge wedge - I think many of us know of the city-nationalists or others who go around removing "Italian" and replace it with "Venetian", but they do not remove Venetian painters from the Italian tree. Unfortunately the discussion at CFD has been ill-attended. Any comments at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_June_10#Category:Engravers_from_the_Republic_of_Geneva would be very welcome. Johnbod (talk) 18:38, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Lieu vs Canton vs Place

ZH8000 (talk · contribs) has recently been on a campaign to translate "orte", specifically "Acht Orte", as "lieu" or "eight lieus". Even though lieu has an archaic meaning of "place" or "stead" I think this translation is clunky and unclear. It is almost never used in English to mean anything other than the phrase "in lieu of" and I've never seen it used describe a physical place. There is no reason to include an archaic word that the majority of readers will have to look up and even then have to guess at the idiosyncratic meaning this user assigned to it. Especially when there are perfectly good terms such as Canton or even Place which are much easier to understand. A google search for the terms "acht orte" "eight lieus" returns only 3 results, all from wikipedia. However, a search for "acht orte" "eight cantons" returns about 2,800 results and "acht orte" "eight places" gives over 200 results. "eight lieus" gives about 100 results, while "eight cantons" gives 15,000 results. Clearly, eight lieus is not common English and there's nothing to gain by using an odd, archaic translation.Tobyc75 (talk) 19:20, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Davos question listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Davos question. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so.

Swiss museums on the List of music museums

Hi there, I have introduced the List of music museums, and a number of Swiss museums are not yet written in English. Are there users at this project that like to write some of these articles? Best regards, Ymnes (talk) 17:49, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

RfC on election/referendum naming format

An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation)#Proposed change to election/referendum naming format. Cheers, Number 57 15:41, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Adolphe Merkle Institute

Hi, can anyone share their opinion in this discussion about this draft. We need to trim something IMHO.--Alexmar983 (talk) 17:02, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Navbox Swiss Research Institutes

Hi in my sanbox i am refining a navigation template about Swiss Research Institutes complementary to Template:Universities in Switzerland. Take a look if you want to add something.--Alexmar983 (talk) 14:15, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

The draft is quite stable, see Template:Research institutes in Switzerland, I will also create the overall category Category:Switzerland universities and colleges navigational boxes (similarly to Mexico for example).--Alexmar983 (talk) 14:11, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
I created the category few minutes ago.--Alexmar983 (talk) 21:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
I am inserting the navbox in various pages and no problem so far.--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:38, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
I think it would be good if you could link to a primary article on Research Institutes in Switzerland, explaining how they are different/or associated with different universities. Even a list page would be ok. Aloneinthewild (talk) 17:52, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
List of universities in Switzerland is the only list which is partially overlapping but it's about organizations providing education, so technically not research centres. I don't think such lists are common, editors mostly focus on universities. Template:Research institutes in Mexico also has no link to a specific article. So Template:Universities in Switzerland has a link to ns0, but this template only has a link to a category. --Alexmar983 (talk) 21:08, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Information about pilot project "Infobox powerd by Wikidata"

On January 26 2019, we held a workshop on wikidata powered "Infoboxes related to Switzerland", as a starter for the German language Wikipedia. Objectives are: To have data in these boxes up-to-date and consistent in various languages (e.g. German, French, Italian, English) as they need to be maintained in Wikidata only.

Workbenches:

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March 2019: Vive la Francophonie

In connection with International Francophonie Day on the 20th, WikiProject Women in Red is focusing on Francophone Women throughout the month. Help us to increase coverage of Swiss French speakers in English and/or in French, turning red links into blue.--Ipigott (talk) 12:23, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

WP 1.0 Bot Beta

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Removed red links

Hi, FYI I am waiting for an answer here about this removal. Those red links were acurate and listed for the creation of future articles, they were no problem for any standard reader IMHO (who actually will now read a much less complete overall perspective on existsing research centres in Switzerland).

It's the first time across platform that I see a "strong" removal of reasonable links from a navbox this way. As soon as I see the guidiline, if I don't think it is reasonable, I will probably link this discussion to other projects and ask to reinsert those links. --Alexmar983 (talk) 09:59, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Impact of layoffs and erosion of the press in Switzerland

While looking for documentation to write a stub for Hanna Muralt Müller, I suddenly noticed that we have a new vice chancellor since May 1st, Viktor Rossi. From about 20 to 30 minutes of searching, the only sources I can find are from the Chancellery and admin.ch directly. I haven't been able to find any coverage in Swiss newspapers at all, either in December for Rossi's election, or in May for the start of his term.

This is quite unprecedented - his predecessors were reasonably well covered up to three years ago, and even De Bernardi's resignation in August last year got at least a mention in the NZZ. For Rossi, there's nothing.

I'm starting to wonder whether this is just a function of apathy for the post, or the result that we have seen significant layoffs in the press in Switzerland over the past few years.

Anyone having trouble finding sources for recent Swiss events? (Also, if you find stuff on Rossi, feel free to send it my way or turn that blue link red yourself :) ) MLauba (Talk) 23:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Article for review

Hello everyone, I work at Lombard Odier, one of the oldest active private banks in Geneva, and was tasked with taking the corresponding article out of its current sorry state.

We thought we’d done everything by the book, but the gentleman who kindly answered our CoI edit requests has responded with increasingly complicated demands, which we haven't seen happen anywhere else. The discussion was cordial though, and he also suggested we go see directly with this Wikiproject for a review, so here I am.

To be clear, the very same text has been posted in other languages (French, Spanish, German, and Italian), with editors there helpfully pitching in/editing afterwards (German also implements ‘’gesichtete Versionen’’, so this text had to be reviewed by someone before appearing publicly).

The full corrected text is here, and it is a little long as we decided to invest the time to properly describe how the group came to be from the 1780's onwards (so yes, it's mostly for history fans). Considering the amount of changes, I would also rather be cautious and leave the decision to post it to someone fully unconnected.

I hope a generous soul will find the time to review it and kindly use it to improve/replace the existing non-existent poor excuse of an article. All the informal reviews I have had so far were pretty positive, but I understand this is a collaborative project and welcome any comment or modification: this text is not mine anymore, but hopefully also yours. Enjoy the read, and thanks a lot in advance, Hello at LO (talk) 11:50, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Geneva for deletion

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Question: People appearing in photos and Swiss Law

I am aware that Swiss Law may have something to say about people appearing in photos. Is it sufficient to blur people, or should I avoid such photos altogether if I cannot prove consent was given at the time of taking the picture? Tim Watts (talk) 08:29, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

While annoyingly the legal summary covering this isn't available in English (https://www.edoeb.admin.ch/edoeb/fr/home/protection-des-donnees/Internet_und_Computer/publication-de-photographies.html), the key point for people to object to publication of their pictures is that they are recognizable. Someone whose face is blurred is obviously not going to be recognizable per se, so blurring will take care of the issue.
Also, there are mitigating circumstances when discussing people who are not the primary subject of the picture (eg passersby around a monument etc). Obligatory disclaimer - I am not a lawyer, and the above is not valid legal advice. MLauba (Talk) 15:00, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Tim Freitag (band)

Dear editors: This draft article about a Swiss music group has some references, but most are not in English, and I am unable to tell if they are independent and reliable. Can someone take a look? Thanks.—Anne Delong (talk) 07:18, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Anne Delong, they are all independent. For reliability - it depends.
  1. SRF is the national public broadcaster. Fully RS, establishes notability.
  2. Annual financial report of the biggest city in the country. RS, primary source justifying the fact that they sponsored one band member for a year abroad. I'd argue it confers notability, as there are not many people benefiting from such support.
  3. Independent German music review site claiming journalistic standards of inclusion and review. Most likely RS, most likely supporting N.
  4. Is an independent source, an online music magazine with independent staff, but makes no explicit claims about following established journalistic methods. However, it is merely used to support factual claims (band played here on X, local personality stated they like band).
The rest of the sources mostly fall either under regional news (Urner Wochenblatt), or organized / staffed blogs where content is staff-generated, but reliability cannot be clearly ascertained. However, like #4 above, these are mostly used as primary sources to establish limited and specific claims.
For what it's worth, as someone living in a different linguistic region in Switzerland, I was peripherally aware of their existence prior to this draft. Considering there is very limited cultural spread across language barriers in the country (eg bands active in Zürich would be virtually unknown here, and vice versa), subjectively that makes them stand out. I believe sources 1 and 2 help the band pass WP:GNG. MLauba (Talk) 08:30, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Worth adding, the AfC submission is a translation of the corresponding DE Wikipedia article (German was created by an anon, potentially the same user), which I'll note in a null edit summary shortly. MLauba (Talk) 08:52, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

FYI: Request for comment regarding Swiss Standard German

Hi, I would like to call your attention to the following request for comment because it is relevant to Swiss Standard German:

Thanks --mach 🙈🙉🙊 14:21, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Improvement of Wikipedia page of multinational corporation based in Zug

Hello! I was wondering if the following challenge would interest to the community of this WikiProject The Wikipedia page of IWG plc - the world's leading provider of coworking and flexible workspaces and headquartered in Zug, Switzerland - has a C-class in terms of quality.

IWG plc is a company with a footprint in 106 countries, with thousands of flexible workspace centres, 2.5 million customers and a valuation of $3.8 billion. However, the company is relatively unknown. Recently, due to the scandals of its chief competitor WeWork it has been dubbed by the media as WeWork's "profitable rival."

But I digress, the IWG plc Wikipedia page has very little information. By being unknown, the page has attracted very few contributors. Would the community on this page be willing to volunteer as independent, reliable editors to improve the accuracy and completeness of the page? KatherineBusby2019 (talk) 14:31, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Template:Swiss populations date

Visperterminen is being placed in Category:Articles containing potentially dated statements from 31 December 2018 instead of Category:Articles containing potentially dated statements from December 2018 which usually means it has a day specified on an {{asof}} template. However there's no obvious use of that date in the article. Deleting the one use of {{Swiss populations date}} in an asof removes the wrong category. I don't want to go messing with something that's used so much, but perhaps someone who's more familiar with the source data can make it more asof friendly? Pinging @Tobyc75: the original creator. Le Deluge (talk) 13:06, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

{{asof}} takes between one and three arguments (Y, M, D), while {{Swiss populations date}} produces a D-M-Y string. It isn't clear that readers need to know the exact day of the population count. I changed the use of {{Swiss populations date}} to {{Swiss populations Y}}, which fixed the problem. Is that acceptable? — hike395 (talk) 13:49, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Yes, either {{Swiss populations Y}} or {{Swiss populations YM}} will fix the {{asof}} date issue.Tobyc75 (talk) 18:23, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
In theory it doesn't need asof at all in this particular instance as long as the template automatically updates, I was more flagging it in case there were other instances where it might matter more. You've scratched the immediate itch which was the red-linked category, so thanks for that. Le Deluge (talk) 19:12, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Assessment/Quality rating of Roger Steinmann (the article, not the person :))

Hi WikiProject Switzerland, I’m new to Wikipedia and prepared an article on the Swiss filmmaker Roger Steinmann. After checking with Sandstein (User talk:Sandstein), I’ve move the article. I’ve learned that a BLP requires an assessment and a quality rating better than stub-class and would therefore be happy, if one of you have a look at the article and support me improving it, getting an assessment with a start- (or even better) class rating. Can someone please help? Thanks a lot! Ogcgn (talk) 16:45, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Template:Members of the Swiss National Council

The various sub-templates of Template:Members of the Swiss National Council are outdated. --1990'sguy (talk) 20:43, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Swiss_cheese#Requested_move_23_March_2020

Please comment there, thanks Johnbod (talk) 04:10, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Update article «Vincenzo Vela»

Dear users

On the occasion of the Bicentenary of the birth of the Swiss sculptor Vincenzo Vela (1820-1891), the Museo Vincenzo Vela is going to update and complete the contents of the article «Vincenzo Vela», basing on the latest research on the artist. The Museo Vincenzo Vela , run by the Federal Office of Culture (FOC), is a public institution, resulting from the legacy of the artist's house and its collections to the Swiss Confederation, at the behest of Vincenzo and his son Spartacus Vela (1854-1895). The editing of the text will be applied to the main Swiss national languages (German, French, Italian) and English and will be based on the content written by experts in the field.

The Museo Vincenzo Vela (Ligornetto, Switzerland) remains available for any clarification or request.

Sincerely,

Federal Office of Culture, Gianna A. Mina PhD, Director, Museo Vincenzo Vela — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.5.216.100 (talk) 08:33, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Source need to be updated for Indian Ambassador to Switzerland

In the article List of ambassadors to Switzerland, the source given to Indian Ambassador to Switzerland is wrong. It needs to be replaced with https://www.indembassybern.gov.in/page/amb-profile/ for Sibi George

Location map for Switzerland not in category Switzerland location map templates

The Location map for Switzerland is not tagged with the Category:Switzerland location map templates. Is there a reason for this? Shouldn't it be included in the category? Regards, --papageno (talk) 19:36, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Category is (perhaps now) there.  Done. --papageno (talk) 16:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Augusta Raurica is not on the Swiss plateau

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Plateau#History_of_settlement mentions Augusta Raurica as being on the Swiss Plateau, but it is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.197.232.133 (talk) 10:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done Kaiseraugst is in BL. Also did some minor corrections. Popo le Chien throw a bone 07:41, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Can someone please review / update this article?

Hello, we've entirely rewritten the article on Bordier & Cie (references, box, images, etc.) but because of a conflict of interest would rather not change the article directly. There's a gigantic waitlist for review for the normal edit request process, so I figured we could ask for help here: can someone please have a look at Talk:Bordier & Cie#Broad update and confirm this is ok content? Thanks, Christophe Leu (talk) 15:33, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Water supply and sanitation in Switzerland

Please create this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnytest5 (talk • contribs) 08:32, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

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