Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sri Lanka/Archive 3

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Veera Puran Appu.jpg

image:Veera Puran Appu.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:56, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Presidential Flag of Sri-Lanka.gif

image:Presidential Flag of Sri-Lanka.gif has been nominated for deletion -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 11:11, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Street scenes in Sri Lanka

Does anyone know what cities these are? -- Cherubino (talk) 09:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

The opening frame of the first video shows a sign saying "Gampola Motor Stores" so I'm guessing it's Gampola.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 15:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

@Cherubino: Second video; A9 road, the vehicle is heading towards Kandy, the bus station to the right is Naula.[1] Thanks Nishadhi (talk) 16:54, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! -- Cherubino (talk) 18:40, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Sri Sumangala National School, Nildandahinna

Chinthaka93 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) started Sri Sumangala National School, Nildandahinna, and another editor tagged the article for speedy deletion as unduly promotional. I removed some non-English text and some text that was promotional or unverified, but the stub article that resulted isn't very useful. The deleted text can be seen in the article's history. Perhaps a member of this project could expand the article and add information to the infobox. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:10, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

@Eastmain: Thanks for the Info. I have added some references. Greetings Nishadhi (talk) 17:06, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Potential huge list of redundant articles

Could someone look into this list please? All of the "Ministry of" are itself stubs, but yet there are this "Minister of" articles also being created side-by-side. This should IMO, be merged into the broader "Ministry of" article. I'm going to start working on this in the coming days, if there is no solid argument against it. Example of how it should be done. Reh man 00:21, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Rehman, these lists are something I have been working on. I think I might be a little confused in what you are asking but Ill give it a go. Generally when these ministry articles and all other political offices have two separate articles, an article about the office and one of a list of office holders. Such as Prime Minister of Sri Lanka and List of Prime Ministers of Sri Lanka. Here is a relatively good example of a cabinet ministry. Ministry of Defence and Urban Development and Minister of Defence (Sri Lanka). I have created each list separately because most of the offices have many former holders, such as Minister of Education (Sri Lanka) and Minister of Sports (Sri Lanka) (both finished articles), therefore I have no doubt they will expand in the future when more information is discovered. I was planning to do it myself. List of Sri Lankan cabinets is a good starting point. However I see your point as there are a few lists with just one minister right now, I dont oppose your example but I think you should only do it to similar articles of unfinished lists with just the one minister. Also in terms of the "and" in "Power and Energy", if you change one I think all should be changed for continuity. Thanks--Blackknight12 (talk) 04:08, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I understand your good faith intentions. But I believe that's the wrong way to start. Yes, you're right about having to split it at one point, but this is definitely not the time as we are nowhere near the need for two separate articles. It is also quite a nuisance for the reader, to go through two separate articles for two tiny bits of information on the same subject. Please let me know if you agree with me, so that we can both get on with the cleanup right away. If not, we will have to gain wider consensus and see were this goes. Best regards, Reh man 12:07, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes I agree with you and I say go ahead, but I think it is best for only the unfinished lists with just the one minister. Thanks--Blackknight12 (talk) 04:37, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I will proceed with this task after I am finished with my current projects. For now, I believe we should merge-from and delete all "Minister of" articles (instead of those with 1 entry only) as they are no where near the requirement of needing a split, even if they have 1 entry or 10 entries. Reh man 04:56, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

RfC: Are these separate articles necessary?

As discussed immediately above, there used to be a large number of newly created articles (in the form of "Minister of Power and Energy") with content that so small that I believe should be left in the parent ("Ministry of Power and Energy"-type articles. After I have explained to the sole author of all those articles, I believed that the note was well taken, and I have proceeded with moving smaller articles (which are effectively list-type articles), into the parent articles. The remaining pages were (rightfully, IMO) speedily deleted by a bunch of admins (Alexf, JohnCD, Ronhjones, Anthony Bradbury). To see those now-deleted articles, please see my recent deleted edits (I tagged those for deletion, initially).

The author has now returned 2-days later, and claims that s/he never accepted this, and states that s/he will recreate those articles again. Please note that this is not a complaint of any sort against the author, but rather an attempt to get more views before things get unnecessarily messy. Kind regards, Reh man 15:41, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I am glad this is not a complaint on me, but may I ask you for more information, or rather to elaborate on why you think all minister and ministry articles should be merged?--Blackknight12 (talk) 15:49, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I have quite straightforwardly explained that in my initial post above. I don't really have much more to add to that. Lets see where this RFC takes us, and then we may work together on doing whatever that's necessary. Reh man 15:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Well I've said all that I can as well. I have no objections for making compromises for the smaller lists, in fact I think it was the better idea and is now better than it was before, but I don't understand your rationale against the completed lists (namely the ones I have listed on your page), such list are common through out wiki.--Blackknight12 (talk) 16:01, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Here are some examples Justice ministry, Finance minister, Defence minister, Foreign minister, Ministry of Transport, Health minister...nearly every country listed has separated articles.--Blackknight12 (talk) 16:37, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update

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MAS Holdings

The MAS Holdings page needs to be updated. More information should be given on different plants, garments, the green plant and power generation, and lean implementation. MAS is Sri Lanka's biggest employer - it is a shame that it has such a small page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.165.203 (talk) 20:11, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

So you better update and extend the page but keep in mind to insert the links of the sources you obtain the facts,I suggested you this because I felt that you bear a sound knowledge of the business.Anyone can Edit Wikipedia its Open,Thanks.MediaJet talk 19:52, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 12/03

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Attorney General's Department - Sri Lanka. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 14:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Harsha Purasinghe

Dear Sri Lanka experts: Here's an old abandoned Afc submission that will soon be deleted as a stale draft. Is this a notable Sri Lankan businessman? Are there sources available to improve it? OR should it be let go? —Anne Delong (talk) 14:56, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Did a quick search, doesn't seem to be that notable, would like to see what others think though.--Blackknight12 (talk) 04:58, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Did a quick search, he is notable.

Quite a Notable person,but I have never heard about him before.MediaJet talk 20:08, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I have postponed its deletion. It won't be accepted without some inline citations to reliable sources; if anyone here has found some, perhaps you could add them to the article. They don't have to be in English, as long as they are proper news, magazine or book sources and not press releases or blogs, etc. Thanks for taking the time to check this out for me. —Anne Delong (talk) 21:27, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

AfC submission - 14/03

Draft:Department of Census and Statistics (Sri Lanka). FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 19:27, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/sethawadiya

Dear Sri Lanka experts: Here's an old Afc submission about a village. There is so much advertising about the hotel and kite school that I am having difficulty finding out it this is an actual village name or just a neighbourhood. Should the article be kept and improved rather than deleted as a stale draft? —Anne Delong (talk) 12:27, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

I didn't notice such a village near Kalpitiya however this seems to me like a trade name or something like that.Found three business places by this name - Sethwadiya Dolphin View Eco Lodge,Sethwadiya Seafood,and a Lodge by the same name on the shallow sea.In Sinhalese Wadiya means a Lodge,Thanks.--MediaJet talk 19:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Sounds as if it's really a tourist resort rather than a town. —Anne Delong (talk) 01:39, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Exactly

--MediaJet talk 04:57, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, a business would have to meet a higher notability standard than a village, and I don't see it in this article right now, so I guess it's goodbye... —Anne Delong (talk) 05:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes indeed.--MediaJet talk 16:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Ikman.lk

Is this company notable? Are the sources "solid"? I ask because the sources are written in a tone that looks like, by American standards, like warmed-over press releases or "advertorial" content. I've started a discussion about the sources on Talk:Ikman.lk. Please help improve the sources or, if this company is not notable, tag it for {{notability}} or even WP:AFD. Thanks. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:49, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Ikman.lk is much popular site in Sri Lanka.--MediaJet talk 16:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Sri Lanka Constitution 1972

I do not see any article on "Sri Lanka Constitution, 1972". Do you think that it is good idea to start new article? --Anton^Talk 03:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Antan, I've noticed that too. It would definitely be a good Idea to create it.--Blackknight12 (talk) 04:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I just initiated Constitution of Sri Lanka, 1972. I will write more after couple of hours.--Anton^Talk 06:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014

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Leaflet For Wikiproject Sri Lanka At Wikimania 2014

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Deletion nomination

Hi WikiProject Sri Lanka. I've nominated the article Ba Takat Bridge for deletion, because as far as I can tell no such bridge exists, and it's probably a hoax (though it's been on Wikipedia since 2008). My reasoning is in the deletion discussion. If I'm wrong and someone can confirm that this bridge really does exist, I'd be happy to withdraw the nomination. --Delirium (talk) 12:49, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eruthu Paar Kodi

Comments appreciated, anyone with Tamil literacy would be particularly appreciated. --j⚛e decker ^talk 15:51, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Languages in censuses and Race and ethnicity in censuses

Pleas add information about this country to this articles--Kaiyr (talk) 13:18, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Duplicate articles

Bhuvanekabahu VII of Sri Lanka and Bhuvanaikabahu VII of Kotte are about the same person. The former article is in better shape, but it appears the latter is the proper title for the article. I'll go ahead and merge the former into the latter, unless there are any objections. --BDD (talk) 19:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I'm editing these articles now so I shall do that if you dont mind. :)--Blackknight12 (talk) 04:48, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Well done. --BDD (talk) 22:55, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

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About User

Guys the user called obi2canibe who is dreaming about Tamil Eelam is edit pages related to Sri lanka.This fellow use non neutral references and his edits are not neutral.He edits articles that the way he thought! please give concern about it! He is ruin every Sri Lankan related pages.Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randeepa (talk • contribs) 06:23, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Rathna Pushpa Kumari

Dear Sri Lanka experts: If the subject of this draft has done half of what is in the article, she is notable, but any references would likely not be in English. Can someone do a search of Sri Lankan news sources to see if there is reference to the television work that is claimed Here? Thanks. —Anne Delong (talk) 14:46, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Creation of Leader of the House (Sri Lanka)

Hi everyone, I have created this page since it was missing, please feel free to contribute and improve it -Adhisha4 (talk) 10:05, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Sri Lankan copyright law

A user in Commons argues that architecture/building has copyright under Intellectual Property Act as per Commons:FOP#Sri Lanka. I assume he/she might has own interest of deleting these images since there are thousand of images that despite Freedom of panorama. Anyway, it would lead to vanish hundreds of Sri Lankan images from Commons. If anyone good at Intellectual Property Act and its related amendment, discuss at Commons' Freedom of panorama. (Sample case Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jaffna Post Office.JPG) --Anton^Talk 04:22, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

This has profound implications for Sri Lankan articles on Wikipedia - we could end with no images of buildings, structures etc from Sri Lanka.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 20:01, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

This is very bad, I suggest no one go on a deleting spree for now.--Blackknight12 (talk) 03:19, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

The Law is Law, We Can't Change that as We Wish, If the Current Sri Lankan Law is this, All of us Should Accept that, Even with some regret, Currently there are 100s of Photographs which affect this Law (Including some of my Uploads) All of them should Vanish from here, if this Law is used to delete this Photograph, Thanks.--MediaJet talk 20:44, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Assessment Excellence

The WikiProject Sri Lanka/Assessment is excellently done. Only one unrated article when I looked, and now none at all. --DThomsen8 (talk) 02:53, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Is it justifiable to name the Northern Province as Tamil Country?

I need some help here guys. [Province Debate. ] 4keven4 (talk) 01:03, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Its hard to say without sources but the debate continues.If they prove there are enough sources then it will called as the Tamil country UMDP (talk) 16:00, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sri Lankan state sponsored colonisation schemes (2nd nomination)

The Sri Lankan state sponsored colonisation schemes is nominated for deletion. Please say what do you think about it here. UMDP (talk) 05:48, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

@UMDP: Do not bring these kind of issue here as WikiProject Sri Lanka has deletion and other alerts on its main page. We all watch those alerts. --Anton^Talk 08:12, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

The world’s tallest walking statue of the Buddha

80 feet tall, world’s tallest walking statue of the Buddha is located at Ranawana Temple in Pilimatalawa. If anyone like to write article about this temple, I can contribute by uploading more images. Official site of the temple, Ranawana Purana Rajamaha Viharaya --Anton^Talk 17:02, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Terrorist incidents ?

Most of articles about Attacks on civilians attributed to the Sri Lanka Army are categorized as Terrorist incidents in 0000 (year). ex Mannar, Valvettiturai. Is it right? Have any country or organisation designate Sri Lankan forces as Terrorists? (May be by LTTE) So how these articles are categorized with them. -- L Manju (talk) 19:33, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I haven't looked at those articles. But a quick guess would be that the person categorizing it misunderstood the category itself. Reh man 23:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

According to [this edit] the Sri Lanka has been accused of state terrorism. So incidents those were done or not done (only accusations without proofs) by state forces are categorized as Terrorist incidents. Is this reason valid for every countries (Those who has same accusation of state terrorism) or only for Sri Lanka related articles. Can only accusations designate a state forces as terrorists ? (according to above reason) -- L Manju (talk) 16:10, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Shraddha TV for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Shraddha TV is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Census Data being Manipulated to Misrepresent Ethnic Group Numbers in the Tamil page

The Tamils page needs to be looked at, in particular, the information regarding the number of Tamils in Sri Lanka which has been falsely represented as 24% when the census clearly shows the number as 15%. A user is manipulating and grossly skewing the genealogical information in the Sri Lankan Moors article though original opinion and research to misrepresent the number of Tamils in Sri Lanka. The Sri Lankan Moors have always been a separate cultural and ethnic group in the country but the article page is being falsely manipulated. Toolbelts (talk) 22:06, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

As my knowledge this a matter comes with a long time. Few users deliberately change the Sri Lanka related articles to make false opinions and to promote their political propaganda. In their articles there are given lot of references, but can not reach properly. (Some references are books those can be written in unilateral opinions. Some references those depends on wrong information can also add as reliable references) It should to say Wikipedia is not reliable source and also it is not a publisher of original thoughts. But it is good thing to do changes in the pages where the wrong information are provided.--L Manju (talk) 16:03, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

"Elara"

The usage and primary topic of Elara is under discussion, see Talk:Ellalan (monarch) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:36, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Murder of Seya Sadewmi

I've created a new article on Murder of Seya Sadewmi as the event was widely covered by the mainstream media of Sri Lanka. It'd be great if I can get a helping hand. -- Chamith (talk) 14:37, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Sinhala reader needed for Dravidian peoples

Article Dravidian peoples needs the assistance of someone fluent in Sinhala. One reference for the sentences:

In Sri Lanka, this early steel-making method employed a unique wind furnace, driven by the monsoon winds, capable of producing high-carbon steel and production sites from antiquity have emerged, in places such as Anuradhapura, Tissamaharama and Samanalawewa, as well as imported artifacts of ancient iron and steel from Kodumanal. A 200 BC Tamil trade guild in Tissamaharama, in the South East of Sri Lanka, brought with them some of the oldest iron and steel artifacts and production processes to the island from the classical period.

is in Sinhala, and the citation is incomplete. The citation needs the script-title and trans-title of the article within [2] that supports this text. The page number within the 20 page document would also be helpful, as would a brief quote showing the text-source integrity. Thank you! Worldbruce (talk) 16:08, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Sri Lankan Politics Conventions

With the arrival of new users it appears conventions within Wikipedia's Sri Lankan politics related articles, that although unwritten and generally followed, are now being completely disregarded. Therefore I have started a discussion on various issues that relate to editing standards of Sri Lankan politics related articles.

This is an open discussion. Feel free to discuss the issues below:

Political Dates

Issue: 17 August 2015 or 2015 - Political dates refer to appointments, elections, dissolutions, event etc.

Discussion

All dates, regardless for what that date is referring to should be written in full and in the format 17 August 2015. This is to add specificity and academic value to each article. Dates that can not be verified should not be there at all. However if the month and year or just the year is verified but there is no exact date I think that is acceptable too.--Blackknight12 (talk) 09:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Appointment to parliament

What is the regulation regarding the dates a member of parliament is elected and if a member leaves the office (in this case parliament) at the end of the term (when it is dissolve). Do we put the date parliament was dissolved? or the date of the next election like they do in all other countries?? --LionsRule125 (talk) 09:51, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

As I understand it, a parliamentarian's term begins as he/she is elected, therefore "the day of the election" is the date at which one enters parliament. Should the parliamentarian not decide to retire on his/her own terms the "dissolution of Parliament" will be the end date to their term. If that parliamentarian is elected for consecutive elections then his/her term continues as if he/she never left office between elections.--Blackknight12 (talk) 10:07, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that is the same understanding that I have but is it specified somewhere? --LionsRule125 (talk) 10:20, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Unless you have a RS showing that the date of election is the date an MP's term starts, you are just making assumptions. If you make assumptions you are bound to make mistakes. Adhisha4/LionsRule125 made the assumption that MPs term ends at the next election until I pointed to the article in the constitution that states that the term ends on dissolution. They had also made assumptions about when ministers' terms ended which has resulted in Kumaratunga cabinet showing two ministers of defence between 11 December 2001 and 8 April 2004 - Chandrika Kumaratunga and Tilak Marapana. Blackknight12 has assumed that R. Sampanthan's second stint in Parliament started on 5 July 1997, the day his predecessor A. Thangathurai was assassinated. In fact as these two sources show - 1 2 - even as late as August 1997 the TULF hadn't decided who was going to replace Thangathurai. I had tried to make this article comply with Wikipedia policies but this introduction of wrong information has comprised the integrity of the entire article. Never, ever make assumptions. It is better to have no information than to have wrong information.

You have to get away from the obsession with infoboxes. As H:IB states, infoboxes should be concise and only contain information cited elsewhere in the article. Sadly, most Sri Lankan politician articles are the opposite. They contain bloated, unreferenced infoboxes and very little narrative. They are therefore violating WP:V and ignoring H:IB.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 12:06, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

User:LionsRule125, conditions towards vacating an office are clearly marked out in the constitution, under Chapter 10, article 66.

User:Obi2canibe, a simple comment would have sufficed, you didn't have to be passive aggressive about it. I had read it wrong, as "Sampathan re-entered Parliament on 5 July 1997" instead of "A. Thangathurai was assassinated on 5 July 1997" that was my mistake. This is why we are having these discussions so we can spend less time on infoboxes and more on expanding the article.--Blackknight12 (talk) 01:59, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes I understand the conditions of vacating, but i'm not sure of the dates that they take office( or start as a MP) - LionsRule125 (talk) 12:04, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

I see that even though no evidence has been provided to prove that the date of election is the date an MP's term starts, a moronic editor has started re-inserting the the date of election in numerous articles. Worse, this ignoramus doesn't even know the dates of elections. The 2010 parliamentary elections in parts of Kandy and Trincomalee District were re-held on 20 April 2010. Somehow Dilum Amunugama, Susantha Punchinilame and Lohan Ratwatte have managed to get elected on 8 April 2010, twelve days before all the people have voted. Unbeliveable.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 12:23, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

OK OK... I AM FULLY Aware of the fact that the 2010 elections were held on two different dates. BUT I decided to keep the dates of the elections to the date elections were initially held on that day and if it needs to be changed i shall do that when I get time and if anyone else is interested in fixing it they are more than welcome to fix it so the correct information is given. User:Obi2canibe you seem to have a lot of time that you spend arguing with other editors and editing articles on a specific racial line here instead of discussing issues in a civilized manner and and insulting other editors and not using an important thing all other editors use that's called "COMMON SENSE". The only thing you have been doing is criticizing others in a very Aggressive manner like User:Blackknight12 mentioned - LionsRule125 (talk) 14:21, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

When people ignore rules (WP:V), one needs to shout in order to stop such behaviour.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 11:52, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Obi2canibe please no personal attacks and keep it civil. This is not the first time anyone of us has had to deal with uncooperative editors. Your time would be better spent if you helped in being constructive towards ending these disputes in editing details and style. This is why I have started this dialogue. Yet all you have done so far is complain and throw around abuses. Instead put your hate or annoyance or whatever it is behind you and please come to the table to collaborate in making a decision that will lead to these disputes ending.

LionsRule125 you seem to not get the point about wikipedia policies, you can't go about changes everything just on the basis that you think it should be "consistent with the rest". Both I myself and Obi2canibe have pointed out to you what you are doing wrong yet you disregard everything and continue. I think you should stop editing politics related articles until we can figure all this out.

Now, as for dates concerned with MPs vacating an office is clear, can we find some sources for when MPs take office?--Blackknight12 (talk) 04:57, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

My annoyance is caused by frustration of dealing with editors who ignore rules. Over the last seven years I have spent a lot of time editing hundreds of Sri Lankan articles to get them into a state worthy of inclusion in an encyclopaedia. Then new editors (I'm not singling out LionsRule125, there have been many) join and start editing without any credence to Wikipedia policies. All I ask is that editors follow rules.

We have a source for end dates so there is no issue there. But there are no sources for start dates - I have searched and not found any. There are several possibilities - it could be the date of election, it could be the date the results are announced (usually, but not always, the following day), it could be the date the names of elected MPs are published in the Gazette or it could be the date they take their oath in Parliament. Until we have a source we should not jump the gun and add start dates.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 11:38, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Ok I will accept that criticism regarding not following the rules correctly. All I want to do is to present information in a manner the reader can understand. But both Blackknight12 and obi2canibe have been very aggressive in your style of criticism, especially when it comes to small errors. instead of fixing it and letting me know the error you two have made a massive deal out of nothing at times. If you two can act in a civilized manner and try to cooperate all of us can get along well and focus on the task that we need to do witch is improve and create articles - LionsRule125 (talk) 08:30, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

It is not up to other editors to correct your mistake. You have been told several times about your errors and why you're making them - by ignoring rules, not providing sources and making assumptions. Please go and correct ALL of your mistakes.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 12:04, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

No they don't have to, BUT IF A PAIN IN THE BOTTOM LIKE YOU obi2canibe have a problem with a mistake YOU can go and fix them!!! And NO I DON'T have to listen to you AND NO I DON'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS I MAKE CALCULATED AND EDUCATED GUESSES AND SOME OF THEM ARE CORRECT BUT I AM UNABLE TO REFERENCE THEM BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND RELIABLE SOURCES THAT I CAN MATCH WITH THEM. IN THIS DISCUSSION I HAVE TRIED TO BE RESPECTFUL AND UNDERSTANDING OF ALL ANGLES AND EVERYONE'S OPINION BUT AGAIN AND AGAIN YOU HAVE BEEN AGGRESSIVE AND INSULTING OTHERS OPINIONS. WHICH I AM NOT THE LEAST BIT IMPRESSED WITH!!!! - LionsRule125 (talk) 05:54, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Read WP:BURDEN: "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material". You simply have not understood WP:V if you believe you can make "educated guesses".--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 11:43, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

LionsRule125 it is your responsibility to correct all of those articles you so hastily changed before and during this discussion. We did warn you about your mistakes. You are the one who added incorrect and/or incomplete information therefore please do not leave it to others to clean up your mess. As we have come to a consensus on the dates Members of parliament leave office please insert the full correct date on the articles in which you have changed. I am asking you as a fellow editor.

So far we have only tackled half the issue as we still don't have an exact start date, this is a big issue as we can't leave dates unresolved. I think we should look to similar parliamentary systems, such as the UK and India, to see if we can find an answer. --Blackknight12 (talk) 06:06, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Blackknight12 I will change any article that I feel that is incorrect regardless of mine or not. And I did not change any dates at my pleasure I removed all the dates because obi2canibe kept removing the dates on some articles, so in order to keep things consistent I removed all the starting dates. I will enter the finishing and starting date once this whole issue is sorted until then ill leave things as it is instead of changing things many times and wasting time. REGARDING THE MATTER OF CORRECTING THING, ILL DO THEM WHEN I HAVE TIME TO DO IT I DON'T HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO SIT ON FRONT OF WIKIPEDIA LIKE CERTAIN USERS AND EDIT EVERYTHING AS EVERYONE ELSE DEMANDS, PLUS NONE OF YOU CAN DEMAND ME TO FIX IT WHEN YOU WANT IT TO THE WAY YOU LIKE IT. obi2canibe ARE YOU A ROBOT!!! BECAUSE THESE ARTICLES ARE WRITTEN BY HUMANS WHO NEED USE THEM REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE RULES SAY, AND THERE IS NOTHING MENTIONED IN EITHER OF THEM YOU CANT!! IT ONLY SAYS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REFERENCED AND NOTHING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE NOT MENTIONED LIKE THE STARTING DATE. Finally regarding looking at other countries, good suggestion Blackknight12. I did look into few countries like Australia, UK and India, what their constitutions say is that parliamentary membership is always active and that it goes from the day of election until another person is elected or the current person leaves office. what we can do is ask an editor from those countries whether the starting date of the term is actually mentioned in their constitutions and go about it from there - LionsRule125 (talk) 06:35, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

I am not demanding you edit the way I like - I am asking that you follow the rules. Rules aren't optional - everyone must follow them, humans and robots. You don't have time to correct your mistake, but you have time to moan that you don't have time to correct your mistake?--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 17:08, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

OK obi2canibe and Blackknight12, this might not be the best resource, but according to the 1946 constitution its the first day the parliament assembles and goes till the day that they are dissolved 1946 Ceylon constitution, would this be good enough to go with? - LionsRule125 (talk) 09:20, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't say anything like that. I note that you have jumped the gun again and started changing infoboxes.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 11:08, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Section 11 subsection 5 "Unless Parliament is sooner dissolved, every House of Representatives shall continue for five years from the date appointed for its first meeting and no longer, and the expiry of the said period of five years shall operate as a dissolution of Parliament", This basically says it starts at the first meeting of the Parliament and goes till Parliament is dissolved, didn't realise you could not understand that. The only changes i've made was has been for the time this applied, between 1947 and 1972 - LionsRule125 (talk) 01:49, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Parliament is not the same as MP. You are making assumptions again.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 11:00, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

It is not my problem that you cant understand English, but House of Representatives means members of Parliament! - LionsRule125 (talk) 20:45, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

No it doesn't. At the beginning of this discussion you were so sure that a MP's term begins as he/she is elected - the day of the election. No you are so sure it begins on the first meeting. Could an English language expert be wrong twice?--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 10:41, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes it does, READ AGAIN!!!! Yes, I was pretty sure of that and im still pretty sure it should stand as that. I never claimed that my English was perfect nor did I not admit I was wrong. Im pretty sure may countries have their different rules, but in a place they can't find anything solid they agree with each other on the choices they make instead of being an ABSOLUTE NASI LIKE YOU, PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES!!!! EVEN YOU HAVE MADE MANY, YOU NEED TO LEARN TO ACCEPT OTHER PEOPLE'S MISTAKES AND DEAL WITH IT PROPERLY INSTEAD OF GOING COMPLETELY CRAZY - LionsRule125 (talk) 11:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

If you don't admit that your original suggestion is wrong why did you bring this new suggestion? Which is it to be? We can't have two "right" answers. We can't fudge the answer just to fill up infoboxes.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 19:55, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

My stance is it starts on the day of elections, but since people like you need this thing called evidence, I give you this! the day of the first Parliamentary meeting, which is clearly mentioned in the 1946 constitution - LionsRule125 (talk) 10:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

LionsRule125, calm down, the article you are referring to in the 1946 constitution is slightly misleading in its wording, but is referring to the lower house of parliament, not the members themselves. Also we cannot use the 1946 constitution to define this issue in the present day as it is no longer law. However article 53 of Chapter 8 of the 19th amendment clearly states "Every person appointed to any office referred to in this Chapter shall not enter upon the duties of his or her office until he or she takes and subscribes the oath, or makes and subscribes the affirmation, set out in the Fourth Schedule.” Therfore we have clearly found the proper confirmation we need as to when the term of a member of the government actually starts (this article applies to all members of government described under Chapter 8, not just MPs). To be clear that is when he/she takes an oath, or makes and subscribes an affirmation to the office. Hopefully this satisfies both of you and we can start fixing all the articles.--Blackknight12 (talk) 14:53, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

OK, good i'm more than happy with that. So we are going to go with the day they took oath? would that apply to all the parliaments in this constitution? and would we consider that day to be the first day the parliament meets Blackknight12? - LionsRule125 (talk) 23:09, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Chapter 8 is about the Executive, not MPs. Chapter 10 deals with the Parliament. Article 63 is similar to article 53 but it only states that MPs can't sit or vote until they take the oath.--obi2canibe^{talk contr} 12:26, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Ganga vs Oya

Hey. Could someone tell me what is the difference between Ganga and Oya (in terms of rivers), please? Thanks in advance! Reh man 06:14, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Hello,Ganga (ගඟ) in Sinhalese means a River,Oya (ඔය) in Sinhalese means a Narrow River (comparatively smaller water stream when compared with the major rivers) I hope I answered your question,Thanks--MediaJet talk 07:44, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Reh man 08:23, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

S. Perera

Hi, I'm looking for help from an editor who speaks Sinhalese to help out at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/S. Perera (Old Cambrians cricketer) (2nd nomination) if that's possible? Merry Christmas—S Marshall T/C 17:39, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia 15 - Colombo Meetup

Does everybody know about the Colombo meetup this Saturday? Dan arndt (talk) 04:15, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikimedia Community User Group Sri Lanka

Hello! It is with great pleasure that I announce the creation of Wikimedia Community User Group Sri Lanka, a Wikimedia-recognized (pending) user group to collaborate on Sri Lanka related topics across Wikimedia projects, both off-wiki and on-wiki. You are welcomed to join! To start, please add your name to the table here. Thank you, and kind regards, Reh man 15:01, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Rehman, thanks for that, I shall sign up.--Blackknight12 (talk) 02:51, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Blackknight12, great! Please also feel free to pass on the message to fellow Wikimedians who are not on this WikiProject, as we have a minimum threshold for number of active members, in order to be successfully established. Regards, Reh man 06:53, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello again. We are now officially recognized! Reh man 14:30, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Good stuff Rehman, I shall join - LionsRule125 (talk) 09:44, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Great! :) Reh man 13:26, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Possible duplicate

Hi, do Irakkamam and Eragama Divisional Secretariat treat the same subject and should they thus be merged? "Irakkamam" and "Eragama" look like different transliterations of the same native name, but I hope someone fluent in Sinhalese can clarify this. - HyperGaruda (talk) 17:31, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, they are two different entities, one of which is located within the other. They are supposed to be two separate articles.--Blackknight12 (talk) 02:49, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

@HyperGaruda You were spot-on when you said "look like different transliterations of the same native name". Tamil name Irakkamam is transliterated into Sinhalese as Eragama. But as BlackKnight suggested they are two different entities. Irakkamam is a village, while Eragama DS is the regional division it located.--Chanaka L (talk) 07:35, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Rehman's Campaign for a camera and workstation for free quality content

See commons:User_talk:Rehman/Campaign#Help_host_the_campaign and this link. --Alexmar983 (talk) 04:15, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Possible translation candidate

Someone has flagged a page for blanking on the grounds that it's in Sinhalese but appears on a user page in English language wikipedia. It's here. And no one has touched it for several years....

I have no idea what it is about. This is not my language. But if someone has the time to take a quick look and see if there's anything there that might be worth (1) translating into English and (2) setting up as a new page in wikipedia, please do it. Especially if you will also have the time and interest to do the work. It feels like a more constructive reaction than simply blanking the thing. But only, of course, if (1) you have the time and (2) there's something wiki-worthwhile there! Thanks for thinking about it. Success Charles01 (talk) 08:45, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Dear Charles01, this page could be done by a beginner level editor and he is not using Wikipedia anymore. So I proposed to delete this page.Thank You & Best Regards--Ceylonlion (talk) 05:49, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of power stations in Sri Lanka/archive3

Hi folks. Your input in the above nomination is much welcomed. Thank you, Reh man 14:47, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to Women in Red's special November activities

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Nomination of Susantha De Alwis for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Susantha De Alwis is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susantha De Alwis until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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