Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Men's Issues/Archives/2013/July
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about dumping this sort of baggage ("but from a MRM perspective (rather than from a feminist perspective on the MRM)" and just approach this from a "let's create a good wikipedia project" perspective? Also by posting here I got rid of yet another of the red links that blot wikipedia by offering a portal that goes nowhere. Carptrash (talk) 16:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I hope he will help find good sources about MRM perspectives. This is important per WP:BIAS, as due to media focus, reliable sources documenting the Men's Rights Movement are rather sparse. Also, thanks for creating the category page for this project. I had quite forgotten about that. Ummonk (talk) 17:59, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- From my perspective the lack of useable sources has little to do with media focus (lots of topics that the media focuses on also have reliable references) and more to do with the lack of academic sources, which in turn (opinion) is due to the reality that many (most?) social scientists and the sort of folks who look at these sorts of social movements considered many of what are today's MRM issues to be non-issues, even jokes. However I suspect that this is changing and we should start to see scholarship on these topics. Carptrash (talk) 19:17, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- A couple of relevant, secondary, academic books re men's issues that will be very useful for this project: "The Second Sexism" by Benatar, "Is There Anything Good about Men?" by Baumeister, "Spreading Misandry" and "Legalizing Misandry" by Nathanson and Young. Memills (talk) 19:29, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- From my perspective the lack of useable sources has little to do with media focus (lots of topics that the media focuses on also have reliable references) and more to do with the lack of academic sources, which in turn (opinion) is due to the reality that many (most?) social scientists and the sort of folks who look at these sorts of social movements considered many of what are today's MRM issues to be non-issues, even jokes. However I suspect that this is changing and we should start to see scholarship on these topics. Carptrash (talk) 19:17, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I hope he will help find good sources about MRM perspectives. This is important per WP:BIAS, as due to media focus, reliable sources documenting the Men's Rights Movement are rather sparse. Also, thanks for creating the category page for this project. I had quite forgotten about that. Ummonk (talk) 17:59, 10 July 2013 (UTC)