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Paul Atherton

Resolved
 – No consensus keep. -- Banjeboi 23:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Sarah Palin E-Mail-Hack

Resolved
 – deleted

Manifold Destiny

Resolved
 – Kept. -- Banjeboi 00:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Ward A. Wescott, and
P. Norris Armstrong, and
Vincent Batha, and
Madison Bell, and
C.C. Boone, and
John W. Breen, and
J.G. Britton, and
William Davies, and
John E. Fries, and
Roy E. Haberman, and
Elmer A. Lampe, and
Robert Larsen, and
F.J. (Mickey) McCormick, and
Harrison McJohnston, and
Steve Miller, and
Mark D. Nave, and
John D. Schwender, and
Mark W. Williams

Resolved
 – all but one deleted. Quite disappointing. -- Banjeboi 08:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
  1. Ward A. Wescott (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  2. P. Norris Armstrong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  3. Vincent Batha (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  4. Madison Bell (football coach) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  5. C.C. Boone (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  6. John W. Breen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  7. J.G. Britton (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  8. William Davies (football coach) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  9. John E. Fries (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  10. Roy E. Haberman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  11. Elmer A. Lampe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  12. Robert Larsen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  13. F.J. (Mickey) McCormick (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  14. Harrison McJohnston (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  15. Steve Miller (football coach) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  16. Mark D. Nave (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  17. John D. Schwender (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
  18. Mark W. Williams (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

GirlFriends

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 08:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Land F/X

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 22:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

EFi-X

Resolved
 – Kept - Nomination withdrawn. -- Banjeboi 22:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Ur doin it wrong

Banjeboi, when you remove old rescue items from the sub-page, you use the edit summary "moving". I have just been deleting old listings for rescues, have I been screwing it up? I stopped once I noticed that your edit summaries didn't indicate straight deletion. Should I be moving old notices somewhere? Should I go back and fix myself? Protonk (talk) 07:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

The only record of our work is what is in our archives and what we add to the Examples list. I noticed this, LOL, months ago when trying to figure out which articles had the tag and were still around. The rescue tag puts them in a category but then, of course, when the tag is removed they are then out of the category. Now that we have a bot every article should get listed. In practice I've been archiving the ones that are deleted/merged/closed without any real rescue. The ones that had some rescue-able actions I've moved to a list on the talkpage of the Examples list. Now that we have a bot helping with some of the tedious listings I think my next project is to issue belated barnstars and work on cleaning up that table. I'm thinking we might have a full list of articles rescued and then the table where the article shows a more pronounced rescue. I already added 4-5 from those you had deleted, I didn't bother with the ones that I would have simply archived as I wasn't in the mood with the flood of football AfD's. -- Banjeboi 10:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Check check. I will move some from the examples when I see that they are done in the future, or does the bot do that too? Protonk (talk) 14:22, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Bot only adds, if there is an archive bot to removed resolved tagged items it might be worth considering as well. -- Banjeboi 02:06, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Call in the bot

I keep thinking a daily bot to help list articles with the rescue tag on this talk page would be a good idea, with each article given it's own heading so those invested can mention specific help needed. The bot could potentially also list when it was listed as well and do an update when AfD closes. Any thoughts? Banjeboi 22:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if a bot is the best way. For there to be apoint of this we need that mentioning of the specifics that are needed. A template that can be subst'ed in with that information would likely be better. Something like User:Taemyr/Rescuehelp, although that was intended to go to the talk page of the nominated article. Taemyr (talk) 21:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I think both would help, although I'm cautious about template creep i think something basic enough to link to the AfD discussion and date it started and maybe a notes section so we can include a DRV or "discussion extended" comment. Banjeboi 23:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
I've put one below as an example, I'm thinking a bot could do a daily run and add a section for each article that doesn't have one. It could also add a helperbot note when AfD closes or the rescue tag is removed. In a addition we can configure auto-archiving of resolved items. Banjeboi 00:04, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Update. Bot is now working, a few bugs to sort but specially with the 28 or so football AfDs the timing couldn't be better. -- Banjeboi 06:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

User page tools

If you are anything like me, you use your User page to keep track of things to do. Or a dashboard or some subpage. If so, here are some tools you can use to see how bad the ARS backlog is:

There are currently 0 articles tagged for rescue in the Article Rescue Squadron.

transcluded from {{User:JimMillerJr/Userboxen/ARS alert}}

If you use a dashboard with category counters you can grab the code that produces a table line like this:

ARS flagged for rescue 0

I've been on a table and template kick for the past week or so and made these for myself, but thought I would share. Jim Miller See me | Touch me | Review me 23:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I enlarged slightly and added a second one for total AfDs and saved them at Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Dashboard. Banjeboi 01:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiUnderground (a home for deleted wikipedia articles). Tell me what you think.

I've spent the past couple months working on a home for deleted Wikipedia articles -- somewhere they can be worked on even after having been removed from wikipedia, so that maybe they'll be able to return to wikipedia. The current undeletion process, in which regular users don't even get to see the article proposed for undeletion, is crazy. In the best case scenario, the site could also be a playground for technical and social ideas that might struggle to find a foothold on wikipedia.

Here, for example, is every failed article rescue attempt -- resurrected and editable.

I'm planning on running WikiUnderground for profit (by displaying google ads) but only if that doesn't piss people off.

Okay, I'm going to bed -- I'd been putting off writing this because I think I've got mono or something. But there's a longer technical explanation also, if anyone's interested.

Cheers, Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 05:41, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Errr, I can't see "for profit" ... are you going to pay people to re-write/fluff for what is a volunteer Wikipedia? Does that not create separate classes of editors? BMW(drive) 14:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm running google ads on the right-hand side -- not going to pay people. (Also, I rewrote the silly explanation.) Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 18:36, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I'm reticent to do anything offsite personally but this may be helpful to those looking for a particular deleted article. It may make sense to create mainpage section like "So the article was deleted - now what?" and offer suggestions like userfying and other resources. Banjeboi 08:20, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I've added a link on the main page - there is also Deletionpedia which I also linked there. Banjeboi 07:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks. (The project is in a bit of a lull right now til I clear my plate -- I have to get my sql server working again.) Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 02:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Nice project - I'm [about to quit] Wikipedia because of the deletionist cult, so would be happy to see some good articles saved! WorthyDan (talk) 18:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Requesting help

First, I hope I completed the procedure correctly. Second, there have been 58 articles at the college football project recently sent to AfD from a few editors. Coupled with the new season starting, the sheer volume is difficult to handle. Any and all help would be apprecaited. We have notability guidelines written at CFB:N and a list of known Articles & Pages being considered for deletion. The articles are stubs with some basic information to start off.--Paul McDonald (talk) 04:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Sources are your friends. Without them the game is somewhat lost. there is a few that may help here The Blue Book of College Athletics and The Blue Book of Senior College and of Junior & Community College Athletics. In my experience newspapers - especially for sports coverage - do cover this material but finding any online will be tough. For J. J. Thiel et al, or whoever isn't kept, consider a list article utilizing the football content from the Southwestern College Moundbuilders as the intro. -- Banjeboi 06:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Just found another 19 articles at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ward A. Wescott that was nominated on Sept 18.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Yikes. -- Banjeboi 02:04, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Tagged articles

Sharp and smooth

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 19:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Kolab

Egyptian Geological Museum

Resolved
 – Malformed as only notability tagged; Alansohn (talk · contribs) cleaned it up anyway. -- Banjeboi 19:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Pal Mickey

Resolved
 – Malformed as no AfD, Skomorokh (talk · contribs) sorted it. -- Banjeboi 19:59, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

List of big-bust models and performers

Resolved
 – Deletion upheld. -- Banjeboi 19:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Haskore

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 19:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Geraldine Ryan-Lush

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 19:42, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

JUMP - Java Metamodel Protocol

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 20:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Skala (sports organization)

Resolved
 – Kept but no clear rescuers. -- Banjeboi 20:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Hexadecimal (character)

Resolved
 – Merged. -- Banjeboi 20:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Pickering Defense

Resolved
 – No consensus keep. -- Banjeboi 16:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Cities in the developing world

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 16:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Endgame: Singularity

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 16:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Mike Gravier

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 16:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Kevin Haslam (football coach)

Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 16:21, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
  1. ^ Sylvia Nasar and David Gruber. "(link removed)", The New Yorker, 21 August 2006.
  2. ^ (link removed) "Puma Football to Host Malone in Homecoming Game"
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