Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/Assessment/2008

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Requests for assessment

  • C-class, several issues have been identified on the article's talk page. G.A.S 06:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
  • It seems to be C-class. Substantial cleanup is still required. G.A.S 04:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
  • I recommend citing the article in the same way as Anekantavada is cited. G.A.S 05:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
(→ Further discussions)
  • Love Hina. References have been added to the highlighted areas, and OR/hard to verify claims have been removed. The second paragraph of the Ova section has not been referenced because it is plot, and I'm under the impression that plot does not need to be sourced. Dandy Sephy (talk) 16:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
    •  Done -- B class (barely). I would love to see the following sections expanded: Plot (Maybe consider characters into plot?), Manga, Anime*, OVA* Production. *Merge "OVA" into "ANIME" (See Kashimashi: Girl Meets Girl and Fullmetal Alchemist for an example; both of these sections are too short. It may help to use Fullmetal Alchemist as an example for the anime/manga sections. G.A.Stalk 21:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Merging Anime and Ova is now done. I've kept the plot summary for the Ova in, presumably plot summary's should be added for the two specials as well or reduced?. Those two examples will help a lot with the article in general, thanks. I have more sources for production info, the problem is getting them translated or finding reliable english sources instead. I had to remove a lot of information that was considered OR because I couldn't find reliable sources, even if it was factually accurate. If I can find sources for those it will fill out the article quite nicely. Dandy Sephy (talk) 05:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the plot should be kept in, though maybe in a different section within "Plot"? See Tokyo Mew Mew#Sequel for a (distantly) similar case. Japanese sources should be fine, for online translators see Excite and Babelfish gives the best results. Google translate may also help. (Chance is you already know about one or more of these.) G.A.Stalk 10:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually, it's not so much online japanese sources, but rather translating stuff in the various guidebooks. I can't read the kanji to use an online translator. For example early production info is well documented in one of the books, but most of the specific details are beyond me, and I don't fancy asking someone to translate 50 pages for me. The stuff available in the english manga is minimal compared to the stuff in the japanese manga and the guidebooks. Dandy Sephy (talk) 11:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  • New Cutie Honey - B-class checklist, please. It seems to have been significantly expanded recently and I don't believe it's start-class any more. --Malkinann (talk) 06:53, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  • List of Adventures of Mini-Goddess episodes. B-class, here I come! I also need to know if this can be taken to FLC even with the severely short episode summaries (I did the best I can considering I haven't actually seen this). Thanks! NOCTURNENOIRtalk 03:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. - The summaries are around the same length as those of List of Bleach episodes (season 1), so I don't see a problem there. -- Goodraise (talk) 03:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
      • Wow, that was impressively fast. If anybody wants to aid me in my first FAC, please drop me a line at my talk page... I'll probably be starting an FAC tomorrow if nobody else objects! DARTH PANDAduel 03:45, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
        • It might help, if you said what article you wanna put up for FA. Or did you mean to say FLC? -- Goodraise (talk) 03:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
          • I meant FLC... That's what I get for writing so many episode summaries. Those mess with your brain... DARTH PANDAduel 03:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
            • I should probably have said so in the first comment... I wouldn't advise going for FL just yet. The highest rating an article can receive in this department is B-class, so unless asked otherwise I only check if B-class is met. I did not do a complete review. (How could I have done that in nine minutes?) But there's a few huge warning signs I couldn't overlook. List aren't supposed to start with "This is an episode listing" anymore. Nor should anything in the lead be bolded. These are minor issues, but they suggest, that the list needs to be overhauled to meet the current manual of style and its sub pages. The lead also seems to be a little bit short. You might want to look at the episode lists in Category:FL-Class anime and manga articles for examples. -- Goodraise (talk) 04:14, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
  • List of Excel Saga episodes. Not much needed doing, removed OR, expanded lead, added references and an image. Looking for evaluation as a potential FLC (not necessarily right this minute if its under par )Dandy Sephy (talk) 04:07, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. Solid B-class, but not yet ready for FLC. Some summaries could be a bit longer. And as with practically every list at this stage, it needs final cleanup and a thorough copy-edit. -- Goodraise (talk) 04:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
  • List of Cutie Honey characters and List of New Cutie Honey episodes - was originally assessed as List-class, but a quick glance at the article confirms at least a C-class assessment instead. Requesting B-class checklist since I'm not confident in doing so myself (as I've said in the past). —Dinoguy1000 21:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. See hidden comments for the character list. -- Goodraise (talk) 01:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Care to elaborate on the barely? I only did a relatively quick set of edits on it as I was passing through the article. With an idea of what needs improving I can give it another lookDandy Sephy (talk) 23:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Don't get me wrong, it's B-class alright. What I meant was, that - for a B-class - it's as far away from a FL as is possible. Many summaries need to get longer. The list should have a navigational template or a "See also" section. (External links wouldn't hurt either.) It needs cleanup (read: made to comply with the MOS) from the lead to the references. And it needs copy-editing. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:52, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
  • List of School Rumble chapters - requesting a B-class checklist. This is one I made basically fron scratch, and just spent the last hour and a half adding in English and Japanese sources, reldates, and ISBNs... I'm hungry now. —Dinoguy1000 20:45, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
      • Any specific issues (other than needing an image, refs in the lead, and summaries (wow, that actually wouldn't leave much, would it))? Not that I'm actually going to make an FL push, I really don't have the energey or patience for it... but then, I could surprise myself. ;) —Dinoguy1000 04:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
        • No specific issues (other than those you listed). :) -- Goodraise (talk) 16:14, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Zombie Powder. I completely rewrote this article within the last day, so it needs reassessed. --erachima talk 00:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) C Class, seems that the only outstanding issue is the references (esp. third party references). Well done! G.A.S 05:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Sagara Sanosuke request for reassessment of class. Any copy-edit advice would be great.Tintor2 (talk) 20:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC
    • (Version reviewed) B class. (Non-withstanding the need for a copy edit). I will provide some input later, but recommend asking at WT:ANIME or WP:ANIME/CLEANUP for help with a copy-edit. G.A.S 05:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
      • So the article does not require copy-edit for GA?Tintor2 (talk) 15:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
        • It seems to me that it needs a copy-edit to reach GA class, but not for B-class. Unfortunately, I am the wrong person to fix it, but I can point out certain – but not all – issues a copy edit should look at. G.A.S 15:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
  • List of One Piece video games currently rated Start-class, Low-importance; remade it with FL:List of Castlevania titles in mind. -- Goodraise (talk) 14:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) I also had a chat with Sephiroth BCR regarding this one. The article is B class, but a few issues should be addressed before FLC is attempted.
      • I find the lead a bit too short: Is it possible to add some real world information there as well, eg reception by the public?
      • It is not necessary to provide the genre in the list; though you can mention in the lead that these games span a range of genres, with examples.
      • External links should not be provided in the list itself. Please remove them. A link for the series in the "External links" section should be sufficient.
    • Regards, G.A.S 14:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
      • Thanks for your assessment. All three issues have been addressed, though I had to remove some of the external links without replacement, as the series does, to my knowledge, not have a central website from where all other pages could be reached. So, would you please take a look at it again? Regards, Goodraise (talk) 16:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
        • The article seems fine to me now: I would recommend giving it a final check for completeness, and checking whether it meets all featured list criteria—as I believe that would be the next step. Make sure that you have enough time to edit the article, as other editors will most likely ask for issues to be addressed before supporting the article. G.A.S 05:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
          • Thanks once more, you've been a big help. -- Goodraise (talk) 06:21, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Casshern Sins - Revised a bit. Ominae (talk) 19:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) C class: Please rewrite the lead to conform with WP:LEAD, and if possible, add a reception section. G.A.S 05:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
      • Expanded lead for now. Added reception too and made some minor changes. Ominae (talk) 00:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Black God (manga) - Revised. Added more citations Ominae (talk) 03:13, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reveiwed) C class: The article still requires more cleanup, e.g. I believe that the "Terminology" section can be integrated with the rest of the article (move each entry to where it is used first, remove if trivial). I am not sure about the characters section: Consider integrating it with the synopsis/plot section, introducing the reader to each character within the plot section. (I know it was assessed as start yesterday; I upgraded to C class as I required the B class checklist). G.A.S 05:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Yakushiji Ryōko no Kaiki Jikenbo - Recently expanded a bit. Not sure where to go from here. Ominae (talk) 01:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) Confirming start class assessment: Please update the lead, and expand the more important sections a bit (plot, development, add reception) If all of the mentioned characters are non-trivial, consider splitting them to List of Yakushiji Ryōko no Kaiki Jikenbo characters, replacing the section with prose (instead of a list), or removing the section and introducing the reader to the more important characters within the plot section. Refer to Tokyo Mew Mew#Plot for an example. G.A.S 05:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
      • Have expanded lead and plot as much as I can. Will continue to expand if I can. Ominae (talk) 02:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • List of Hellsing episodes - Already done. Some stuff was added. Ominae (talk) 08:49, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) C class, a potential future featured list candidate. Add the Japanese title and Japanese text (refer to List of Bleach episodes (season 8) for an example]]), Hellsing Ultimate and Hellsing both require an introduction /"lead". (Or the article's lead should explain how they fit together.)
      • Finished it based on advise. Ominae (talk) 01:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
        • That last sentence in the lead needs some work, it still does not explain what the difference is, only that there is a difference. Also, the Japanese text and Romanji should still be added to the article. G.A.S 06:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
          • I'll see what I can do. I don't know about the episodes names in the TV part. Should it be in katakana? Otherwise, I've explained more on the difference Ominae (talk) 06:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Blassreiter - Need some advise. The characters portion is a problem. Not sure on how to proceed Ominae (talk) 08:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) Start class. Without having looked at the article in detail, The best way to proceed would likely be to scrap Joseph Jobson's section (consider merging the applicable parts from Joseph Jobson into the plot as it reads like a plot summary), and rewrite it from scratch. Detailed comment will follow on request. G.A.S 11:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
  • List of Blassreiter episodes - Tried to add more on the lead and added photo of DVD. Let me know how it went. Ominae (talk) 09:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) B Class. If possible, try to keep episode summaries' length consistent (100-150 words). The lead needs more citations. Please compare it to WP:WIAFL, and be prepared to make changes as requested, should you decide to list it. Please check the spelling and grammar before doing so, as I did not do so in detail. G.A.S 11:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
      • Finish with fixing some parts of it. Let me know what else I have to look at. Ominae (talk) 00:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
        • The lead requires a copy-edit. See also this checklist for a few items to look at. G.A.S 06:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
          • Thanks. Went over the stuff. Anything else? Ominae (talk) 06:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Manga iconography: has been re-written and ordered to make more sense. David Bailey (talk) 13:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) The rewrite is a definite improvement, though a lot of work still needs to be done: (1) The lists should be rewritten in coherent paragraphs, (2) How about a history section?, (3) Citations are required. Good luck! G.A.S 17:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
      • Thanks G.A.S! I'll have a look at the article again this weekend and see if I can paragraph it. David Bailey (talk) 19:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Fullmetal Alchemist - The article has gone throught several clean-ups during this year and also a peer review. I know the article needs copyediting for a review, but since I am unable to copyedit I would like to know other things that it needs to be improved. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 00:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) B-class, definitely. I will provide a full review as soon as possible, but from a quick once-over, it should be able to improve the article to GA status quite easily, esp when the article has been copy-edited. G.A.S 04:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Schneizel el Britannia Ominae (talk) 23:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) Start class, low importance. Note that the article will require reception information urgently. The lead also needs expansion before the article is upgraded to C-class. G.A.S 05:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
  • D.Gray-man - requesting a B-class checklist to see where it stands Itzjustdrama? 00:39, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
    •  Done G.A.S 05:05, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Patlabor: The Movie 2 - Refixed for some time now. Ominae (talk) 07:31, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) Please add a reception section to the article, and reply here. Regards, G.A.S 09:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
      • The reception section has been there for some time, unless you want to add some on it a bit. Ominae (talk) 05:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu: Significant expansion since last review. Possible C/B class now. David Bailey (talk) 17:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) The article needs out of universe information, such as "production" and "reception", and more references before being eligible for B class. Good luck! G.A.S 09:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Imokawa Mukuzo Genkanban no Maki - requesting assessment of importance. As the "first professional Japanese animation film ever made", I feel it should recieve Top, or at the very least High, importance. —Dinoguy1000 17:40, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Assessed as High for now. Any higher should be discussed. Perhaps this is an indication that an assessment review board needs to be constructed and kept separate from this page. --Farix (Talk) 18:17, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Should I start a discussion on the talk page, or what? The instructions on this page really don't specify how to go about this. —Dinoguy1000 19:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Believers - It was made a GA back in 2006, but it has very few references and I doubt it meets the standard now. I'm not sure whether it should just be delisted or if it should go through a GA reassessment; or if it should stay GA. WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 19:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Seems to be start class: It is lacking substantial amounts of information per WP:MOS-ANIME. Anybody may delist a GA, you may list it at WP:GAR, or you may defer doing so, instead opting to raise the issue on the talk page. In this case I recommend delisting it: the issues are too severe to easily fix. G.A.S 04:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
  • Stub: Little structure, severely lacking content. Add information like production, media, reception, character list, etc. to upgrade to start, even if it is a sentence or two. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)#Layout for a series article for guidelines. The plot summary is way too long, see Wikipedia:Plot summaries in this regard. It should be about 300 to 500 words long—currently it is 1600 words. G.A.S 07:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
  • I did some reconsidering with during the design of the assessment drive. This article has more information than a classical stub, and the examples as considered for this page. Reassess as start class, albeit barely, and with too much content on the plot with a stub-like focus on everything else. G.A.S 05:06, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Yakushiji Ryōko no Kaiki Jikenbo
    Start class, low importance: Should be easy to upgrade to C-class by adding a plot summary, production content, reception, and some content to sections which have one or two sentences currently. G.A.S 05:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Katsuji Matsumoto. Currently a "C" and rated as being of "High Importance." References have been added and original research deleted. Thanks. Matt Thorn (talk) 15:21, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Still C class, I added some comments on the article's talk page. I am currently watching that page. G.A.S 05:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Yakushiji Ryōko no Kaiki Jikenbo, did some expansion. Need someone to check on my Japanese for Japan Private Police. Thanks. Ominae (talk) 11:50, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Start class. Unfortunately my Japense is non-existent, so I cannot check it for you. G.A.S 05:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Chibiusa and ChibiChibi - both recently reassessed as C-class, but the B-class checklists weren't filled out. Requesting someone to fill out the B-class checklists. -Malkinann (talk) 23:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
    • Although not mentioned in the review, Chibiusa seems to contain some OR, e.g. "Usagi shows signs of being pregnant (such as morning sickness) during the direct-to-DVD Special Act."
    • I wish people would complete those—Originally, the template did not require the checklist to be completed for C-class articles, that is a more recent change, and I did not quite update the Tag & Assess instructions in time (nor do I think everybody read that instruction. In any case, Once the Tag and assess is done, I will turn my attention to the backlog. G.A.S 05:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
    • I have completed the checklists, please list further requests here as well. G.A.S 05:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Yakushiji Ryōko no Kaiki Jikenbo - Done updating. Made a bit of expansion with a bit of citation and all. Ominae (talk) 01:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) Still start class. (It still requires the following sections: production content, reception, see WP:MOS-ANIME for details regarding content; many sections have only one line; see the sample C-class article, The article really requires more detailed sections, if most of the articles are obviously incomplete, the article is by definition start class). G.A.S 05:22, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Will try and see if other info can be added since it's only recent. Ominae (talk) 08:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Good luck! G.A.S 09:37, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll probably wait 'til the show ends in Japan. Ominae (talk) 03:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Blue Dragon. Upgraded to B class during the assessment drive, but recently failed a GA nomination. Specifically requesting assessment of B1, B2, B4; as these were issues raised by the GA reviewer. G.A.S 05:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Blassreiter Ominae (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) Start class: In order to qualify for C-class: (1) Expand the lead, as it is too short (2 paragraphs, at least 75 words per paragraph) (2) Expand the plot section (150-250 words) (3) Trim the characters section and/or split them to List of Blassreiter characters (in which case 3-4 paragraphs should summarise this in the main article), (4) Float the production staff content on the right-hand side. (5) Add a reception section even if it is brief. G.A.S 04:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Shojo Beat - requesting B-class checklist, uh, check, before I attempt a GA nom. It was noted in the just completed CE that the reception section is brief, but neither me nor other editors have found any other reliably sourcable information or reviews so I think it as complete as possible at this time. It has already been peer reviewed as well.-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:45, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) Done, feel free to change the importance, I am unsure about this one, also not sure about B2: The article is very good, but maybe a bit too short, for instance:
      • Expand about the audience (Who? Where are they located? Age?)
      • Table: I was unsure at first why certain rows were highlighted, adding a legend, or removing the highlighting may help; Completed column: It may help to say x/y chapters published.
Regards, G.A.S 05:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I think some of Viz's press info mentioned the audience, so I'll check inot that. I'll also work on the tables some. I've been back and forth on whether its even a good thing to have at all, but that's a discuss for the main project talk ;) Meanwhile... -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Shonen Jump (magazine) - similar to above, requesting a B-class checklist. This one has not been peer reviewed yet, though I applied the general stuff from SJ's peer review to it. It also needs a CE, but otherwise I'm prepping for GA, so would like to see how it stands on the B scale. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) Done, pretty much the same as above, though. The most pressing issue is pretty much getting the article copy edited, and getting the formatting consistent (e.g. the two quotes)
      • "Viz decided to allow retailers to return to the first two issues"—Is this right?
      • Expand about the audience (Who? Where are they located? Age?)
      • Table: Please explain the highlighting
Regards, G.A.S 05:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Kiki's Delivery Service - requesting B-class checklist filling out, as the article is currently under peer review for a potential GA push. -Malkinann (talk) 11:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
    • (Version reviewed) Done. The main issue is the presentation of the article:
      • It does not follow the manual of style at the moment.
      • I also recommend changing the list of characters to a dictionary list, and putting the list of rewards in a right floated table. (Same with the cast).
Regards, G.A.S 05:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Please elaborate on Talk:Kiki's Delivery Service. -Malkinann (talk) 13:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
(→Further discussions)
  • List of Martian Successor Nadesico episodes - requesting B-Class checklist, since it's at FLC. Note that I haven't been working on it, I only just stumbled across it while looking at the most recent set of changes in the quality log. —Dinoguy1000 17:49, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
    (Version reviewed) I originally put it at list class; as it has virtually no information on each episode. I do not think it is ready for FL class, unless said information is removed (in which case, it would be list class). I have completed the checklist, though. G.A.Stalk 04:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
    All right, thanks. IMHO, an episode list shouldn't be sent off to FLC until it has proper, appropriately detailed plot summaries for each episode, but I'm not very familiar with the process, and that's just my opinion. ;) Also my opinion, if an episode list has *no* summaries, it should be Stub-class, not List-class. —Dinoguy1000 17:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Animerica, would like to see where I am on the B scale. Still searching for usable reviews, but currently I'd say its as complete as I can make it. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 04:00, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Popotan - requesting B-Class assessment. The info on the Popotan dance I am awaiting whether an article I found it meets WP:RS standards.Jinnai (talk) 14:03, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Mukuro Rokudo. Request reassessment. It was impossible to find anything about creation. The author does not seem to talk too much.Tintor2 (talk) 23:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Done:-) G.A.Stalk 04:51, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
  • List of Mobile Suit Gundam Wing mobile units – With the recent mergers of all of the individual mobile suit articles into a single list, this article has improved beyond list-class. But does it stand at C-class or Start-class? --Farix (Talk) 12:16, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
    • It's C-class. And if the lead was a few sentences longer, nobody would disagree with that. -- Goodraise (talk) 13:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
      • I'd agree, with the addition of a few more references as well. This is Gundam, so the references are out there somewhere, right? —Dinoguy1000 17:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
        • Done, see hidden content. G.A.Stalk 05:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Love Hina - request for C-class assesment. I'm working on the more obvious sources at the moment, but could do with a third party look at the rest of the criteria. Dandy Sephy (talk) 16:53, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Karakuridôji Ultimo - Request for C-Class assessment. The page has nearly every source on the internet, could use some third party. I'm sure I can do that easily though. : ) — J U M P G U R U ask㋐㋜㋗ 02:57, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. G.A.Stalk 04:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
  • List of Reborn! chapters - There were no answers during the peer review after the copy-edit, so this would be necessary.Tintor2 (talk) 23:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Done.
      • "The story revolves around the life of Tsunayoshi Sawada"... What kind of person is he? How old is he?
      • I only read the first volume summary, but if the rest is written the same way, then they read like a telephone book.
      • Otherwise the list looks good, B-class. Some more copy-editing and it'll be ready for a WP:FLC. -- Goodraise (talk) 07:45, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Th problem of the series is that the first 7 volumes contain chapters that most of them are unrelated. In volume 8, it turns more into a shonen arc.Tintor2 (talk) 11:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, Goodraise?Tintor2 (talk) 19:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize that you expected a reply. I don't know the story, that's why I can't really make detailed suggestions on how to improve the summaries. I simply think that potential reviewers would have a hard time supporting an FLC for this list. Because I myself don't think that it meets Wikipedia:WIAFL#1 just yet. - Maybe it is possible to explain (in the lead or in the first summaries) to the reader, that the early chapters are largely unrelated. That might improve the reading experience. - But aside from WIAFL#1, I see no reason for this list not to become featured. -- Goodraise (talk) 20:30, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, I read a bit deeper into the summaries. It seems all the characters named in the first summary are acutally important in later volumes... Also, the read isn't as unengaging as I first thought. (I was pretty tired when I first read it. That probably biased my first assessment.) Take it to FLC if you dare and have the time. They will make you copy-edit the list. -- Goodraise (talk) 20:30, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Those characters become important, but some of the first storylines are not connected because they are short chapters (like some from Ranma 1/2 or fillers from Naruto).Tintor2 (talk) 21:32, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
  • The Rose of Versailles - B-class checklist, also requesting a second opinion on whether it should be rated High or Mid importance. --Malkinann (talk) 21:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. About the importance, I'd say it's Mid. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
      • I've expanded the reception section, and I've found a quote saying that its popularity seems to have made shoujo manga a valid field for academic study. The musical series was recently revived, and three different musicals have played this year. Why isn't it of High importance? --Malkinann (talk) 19:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
        • Upon added reception information I reconsider my suggestion. It's on the border between Mid and High. I am no longer advocating Mid, but I'm not in support of High either. I'll remove the striking from the link. Lets hear another opinion. -- Goodraise (talk) 20:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
        • Having re-read the article, and the arguments here, I agree with Goodraise. The series was definitely a commercial success, but "lasting impact"? "...most influential manga ever written...", but this is not really expanded on. Why is it one of the most influential manga ever written? If this can be explained, I will be happy with a "High" rating. G.A.Stalk 05:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
          • As far as I can tell, Rose of Versailles was a zeitgeist - it captured the imagination of the public on its release. Although I can't work out how to fit it into the article, the Salaryman Doxa book (which quotes Schodt in 1986) says that suddenly, boys and men started reading shoujo manga because of RoV, and that suddenly the entire field of shoujo manga was considered worthy of academic attention. Most of the scholarship I've been able to find talks about the revolutionary equality between Oscar and Andre, as opposed to a silly Cinderella type girl who finds her purpose in life through her love for generic Prince Charming #389. Shamoon reckons that female agency in romances in shoujo manga is still problematic. I'm also loving the Fujimoto quote which I've put at the end of the article. --Malkinann (talk) 09:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
            • Based on that argument, I would say a "high" rating is justified... Does anybody else agree? G.A.Stalk 06:39, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
              • Yes, "high" is fine. -- Goodraise (talk) 07:11, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Touch (manga) - the person doing the To-s in the 2008 sweeps seems to have taken a wikibreak. --Malkinann (talk) 19:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Bishōnen - B-class checklist, also consider for high importance. (magical girl/girlfriend are both high importance) --Malkinann (talk) 10:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Checklist completed. Not sure about the importance though... you could argue that it is covered in "Sub-articles of core topics" above... though that does not quite seem to be the case (is is not covered in anime or manga). Considering the examples though, I would say that Bishōnen may be an equally important concept; please confirm? G.A.Stalk 05:56, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
      • I've had a little look around, and the word 'bishonen' to mean 'beautiful young man' has been used in 1848. As perhaps an older concept than the magical girl or magical girlfriend, I believe it should have a high priority. --Malkinann (talk) 21:46, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
        • Upgraded. If somebody disagrees, please discuss here. G.A.Stalk 06:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Reassesment of Love Hina for B-class. The media page was merged into the main article so b2 should now pass. I've redone the character section for tone and MOS-AM fixes so I'm also requesting a assesment of the tone/style tag to see if it is still needed. there should be enough references, but I'll let someone else decide if it is. If there are still issues I'd appreciate some hidden comments as I really want to get this to B for possible GA in the future. Dandy Sephy (talk) 13:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Reassessment of Hyakko for Start-class. Thank you!
  • 2001 Nights - just got done with a relatively massive overhaul/expansion, I'm hoping it's a (at least really low) C, but I'm not holding my breath. —Dinoguy1000 20:56, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
    • Done. -- Goodraise (talk) 22:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
      • Thanks. I'll poke around and see if I can find a cover image to upload. I may also upload the Japanese one, since they seem to be quite different from each other... —Dinoguy1000 18:12, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Shikabane Hime - Have expanded a bit. Added an image for the anime adaptation aka Aka to give a visual sample. Ominae (talk) 02:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
    •  Done Upgraded to start after the efforts of other editors have expanded article and after removing excessive and unnecessary non-free image. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 03:22, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
  • No. The lead needs a bit of cleanup. Episode 12.5 should have a full summary, even if it is only recap. And a copy-edit wouldn't hurt. But that's all I can think of right now. -- Goodraise (talk) 22:53, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks again, I'll get right on that when I can. DARTH PANDAduel 22:56, 8 December 2008 (UTC)