Wikipedia:Peer review/Scott Stevens/archive1
Scott Stevens[edit]
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I have spent several months working on this page in my sandbox, and I feel it's good enough for a peer review. Stevens was one of the most dominant hockey players of his era, and as a Hall of Famer is worthy of a featured article (or at least GA). I'm looking for tips on how to make sure it's FA-worthy (especially in the copyedit area). Any hints would be much appreciated. Anthony Hit me up... 15:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Ruhrfisch comments: Well researched and cited, generally well written, though it needs some polishing if it is to reach FA status. I think it is pretty close to GA. Here are some suggestions for improvement:
- Expand the lead to summarize the entire article per WP:LEAD.
- I would also provide years in the lead to give some context to the reader, perhaps something like Stevens played 22 seasons in the National Hockey League for the Washington Capitals (1982-90), St. Louis Blues (1990-91), and the New Jersey Devils (1991-2004). I had to read the article carefully just to find these years - they should be made clearer in the text too. Or provide his birth order in Early life (i.e. second of three sons or whatever it is). See WP:PCR
- Make sure the writing is of encylcopedic quality and tone. In the "Early life" section I would spell out "semipro" and link it, i.e. semi-professional, and avoid phrases like Scott's two brothers Geoff and Mike also had hockey in their blood;... - see WP:PEACOCK
- Done
- Per WP:MOSQUOTE, only use block quotes for quotations of more than four lines. I also would not repeat the attribution right after the quote if the author has already been identified before it (so Rangers coach Joe Crozier commented about Stevens: “ He’s come a long way this year... He’s strong, tough, handles the puck well and has tremendous hockey sense. ”
—Joe Crozier, on Scott Stevens, [9] This is true for most block quotes in the article.
- Done
- I do not know much about hckey, so I don't understand this: Stevens’ defensive linemate was Dave Shaw, the defensive corps included Al MacInnis, Wendell Young was the team’s starting goaltender... What is the difference between a defensive linemate and the defensive corps? Is the goaltender a part of the defense (I would think so)? If so, why not the defensive corps included Al MacInnis, [and] Wendell Young was the team’s starting goaltender...?
- Done
- Another unclear sentence: Due to injuries during training camp, Stevens made the team at 18 years old, and never played a game in the minor leagues.[10] I think this means other players were injured, but it reads as if he were injured in camp.
- Done
- Unfortunately, the Blues were eliminated in the second round of the playoffs.[18] seems POV, as does Despite the heartbreak of 1994, Stevens and the Devils would not be denied in 1995.
- I do not know hockey and the only pitcure of Stevens previously in the article is of him in a suit with the President, so it was unclear to me who the picture was of with the caption The Devils were awarded Scott Stevens as compensation after the Blues signed away Brendan Shanahan. Perhaps add (pictured)?
- Perhaps put the international statistics together with the other stats at the end of the article. What is the hockey standard?
- Hockey standard is to separate international play from NHL career; see Wayne Gretzky.
- Find a model article that is FA or at least GA and use that as a model.
- I would mention having his number retired in the text (not just an article caption)
- Done
- Refs seem OK, although I am not sure what WP:RS for hockey articles are.
Overall well done with what seems like all the required information, just needs some polishing. Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 10:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
Comments from Ealdgyth (talk · contribs)
- What makes the following reliable sources?
I didn't check for prose, just for WP:RS and WP:V which I would have done at FAC. 15:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)