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Coral Springs, Florida[edit]

This article got a big overhaul last year, upgrading from Start to GA. The goal of this peer review is to get the article ready for FAC (hopefully).

Thanks!

Legionarius (talk) 04:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Moni3: From someone who has concentrated a few recent edits on the detriments of water diversion from the Everglades, and a North Florida resident that looks askance on most South Florida metropolitan areas, I hope you find my recommendations even-handed...

  • In the History section, Lyons' heirs moving from beans to cattle - was that in the Coral Springs area? Or did they just pick up and leave after selling all the land for development? It's a little disjointed.
  • There are five citations for the violence and rise in gangs. This is too much citation for two sentences. Can you expand it or even it out?
  • What made Coral Springs so highly rated according to Money Magazine? What aspects of the city did they rate?
  • The reference to Trivial Pursuit in Cityscape makes it sound as if you got the fact from the game. It would be just as accurate to take out the reference to Trivial Pursuit.
  • In Demographics, can you put the mean income in comparison to other counties in Florida? Palm Beach County has the most money in Florida. Where does Coral Springs stand?
  • I've not visited Coral Springs, but surely there have to be controversies about it being such a tightly regulated community. I think they are worth mentioning.
  • And, really, I can't help myself. Coral Springs is a result of urban sprawl the directly impacted the Everglades negatively. I have read there are communities in South Florida looking to curb growth in the name of ecology conservation and restoration. Are there any organized movements in Coral Springs to check urban development, or at least decrease its impact on the environment?

It's apparent that you put a lot of work into the article. It is well-referenced, clean, and well-written. It does, however, read as a bit of an advertisement for the community. No urban center can be this positive all the time. There must be some local controversy, just to make it interesting. --Moni3 (talk) 05:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your great comments! Let me try to address them.
  • I tried to explain what happened from beans to cattle a little better. They finally sold their stuff in 1961... or in the next paragraph. :-)
  • Gangs, negatives, controversy: That's the thing. I tried really hard to find negative views of Coral Springs for evening the POV. There is a lot of small complaints in forums and other non-RS places, but nothing I could find in RS, or coming from some kind of organization. The worst I could find was the gangs; but even the gangs problem is fairly minor, if you look closely. The strange amount of citations is related to the fact that there isn't an overall article that summarizes all the issues. What do you recommend? The facts (if you follow the links) look so minor that I balked a bit into adding more detail.
  • I thought the explanation of the criteria for the Money prize was a little wordy and deviated from the goal of the article, so I expanded it in the ref. What do you think?
  • TS reference: I thought it added a little color to the article, do you think it makes the article sound worse?
  • Zero movements or organizations not related to any specific group (like firemen, political party, museum benefactors etc). Couldn't find anything enviromental.
  • Good point about the demographics; I have to research it a bit more.
Lastly, thanks for the compliments! But most of the credit must go to user:Horologium.--Legionarius (talk) 05:59, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, what can I say? I looked through the last ten years in The Miami Herald, hoping to find something to make Coral Springs a bit more interesting. The lack of information on it makes it seem even more freakish...like the harrowing hour I spent lost in The Villages a few years ago. Don't be surprised if someone finds the Trivial Pursuit sentence odd in FAC. --Moni3 (talk) 14:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I got this source for the income, but it is very different from the census data. Not sure if I can/should use it.--Legionarius (talk) 17:21, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style. If you would find such a review helpful, please click here. Thanks, APR t 01:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed some nbsps. Thanks!--Legionarius (talk) 17:21, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • An amazing improvement and it's now a pleasure to read. I have upgraded it to A-Class for WikiProject Cities. Improving the lead of the article is advised before submitting the article for FA review. Guidelines can be found in WP:LEAD. Alan.ca (talk) 15:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your nice words! I do not feel competent to improve the lead. Please, do you know any project where I could get some help?--Legionarius (talk) 16:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]