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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 00:56, 17 December 2008 [1].

The Cure discography[edit]

I have recently brought this discography up to standard and believe it could be a featured list. I will of course address any concerns reviewers have as soon as possible. I've searched high and low through sources (reliable and otherwise) but can't find any reference to the directors of the last four music videos. Thanks, --JD554 (talk) 15:07, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Mostly looks fine, except the recent music videos. They need directors, or a good reason why the info cannot be found. At the moment they don't even have citations to prove they exist.Dillypickle (talk) 15:25, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added references for the existence of the last four videos. I'm afraid the directors will remain blank until a reliable source sees fit to say who they were. But I can't see that being a reason for the list not to be featured as WP:WIAFL #3 does say complete "where practical". --JD554 (talk) 15:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks better, although i am still not sure that finding out the directors publicly released videos is sufficiently "impractical". I was suprised that even sites that officialy show the video do not show any information about it (Eg. MTV), so in light of that i will remain neutral. Featured lists do seem to have very low standards compared to other featured content, so it is as good as other FLs.Dillypickle (talk) 08:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Questions

  • Shouldn't the videos for "Why Can't I Be You?" and "Catch" list 1987 as their release dates, not 1986?
    • Ah, you're quite right, fixed. --JD554 (talk) 08:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This one is kind of silly: was or was not "A Night Like This" a single? I have nothing to back this up aside from it having a video and showing up on the singles compilation album, but I always got the impressions it had a single release. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Minor comments
  • Could you link the music video directors when they have their own articles? (eg: Tim Pope)
    • Linked. It was in an earlier incarnation, must have got lost as I moved things about. --JD554 (talk) 08:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Aren't "Taking Off" and "alt.end" the same song with differnet names? indopug (talk) 13:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Even though they bizarrely share the same article page, they are different tracks and are both included separately on The Cure. --JD554 (talk) 08:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:53, 8 December 2008 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "The band has continued through various line-ups, with Smith remaining the group's sole consistent member." The with + -ing sentence structure is awkward. What does "consistent member" mean? I think you mean to say that Smith is the only remaining member from the original lineup.
    • Reworded to The band has continued through various line-ups, with Smith remaining the group's only original member. --JD554 (talk) 08:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • On ref 40, http://www.salineproject.com/, add a note that says that Apple Quicktime is needed to run the video. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:53, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that difficult to locate sales figures for the band's records. This is not an indispensable aspect of a discography, but it is not something to be overlooked either. NSR77 T 22:03, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The data appears to be something I'd have to subscribe to the BPI to get hold of and, as it's not required, I think I'll save my money ;-) --JD554 (talk) 08:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well I found all the cumulative worldwide sales of Chili Peppers' records for Red Hot Chili Peppers discography. See what you can dig up on the internet; if you can't find anything don't worry about it. I mean, I know the Cure book Never Enough: The Story of The Cure by Jeff Apter has sales figures for some of the band's albums (as of 2005). NSR77 T 21:27, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - prose and table checks out well compared to WP:WIAFL.--SRX 21:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Support as a member of WP:ALM. But a few comments:

  • Make that single note in Other appearances a hat note so that you don't need a column just for a single note.
  • What does the "2×CD" format mean? Not sure I've seen it in other discographies. If it denotes double-disc reissue incl. a bonus CD, remember that we are only interested in the original releases.
    • They are for reissues, so I've removed them. --JD554 (talk) 09:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Isn't a cassette a CS rather than an MC? And 12 CD box-set is clearer than "12×CD". DD is another confusing one (just digital release is enough, I think)
  • In Music videos, why don't you just stick refs 35 and 36 in the Director column header?
    • No particular reason, so I've moved them --JD554 (talk) 09:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The following table denotes . . . directly related to the band." is rather unclear. It tool me a while to figure out what "not directly related" meant, I think you could just remove the thing. (Besides i believe self-referential statements like "the following table" is discouraged by MoS.)
    • I have not strong fealings about the section lead so I've removed it. I saw it on a recently FL promoted discography (Diamond Rio discography) so thought it was worth adding. --JD554 (talk) 09:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could you get a better pic of the band? This one is a little too . . . blue.
  • "Killing an Arab", "Boys Don't Cry" and "Jumping Someone Else's Train" weren't on the same non-album single were they? If not, split the "Non-album single" cell into three. (happens again, with "Charlotte Sometimes" etc) indopug (talk) 11:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • As the header to the column says "Album", I think it's clear they're not on the same non-album single. --JD554 (talk) 09:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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